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Cement Mixer Switch Connection: Three-Phase Motor, Coil Resistance, Cable Connections

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  • #1 16409733
    albertg08
    Level 9  
    Hello.
    I need help connecting the cement mixer switch to a three-phase motor.
    The problem is that the switch does not lock, locks when pressed, you only have to hold it all the time.
    I unscrewed it seems that the cables are well connected I also measured the coil resistance and once it came out 10Kohm sometimes it dropped to 4KOhm. It looks like the coil doesn't turn on
    Maybe the cables are badly connected?
    The cables shown in the picture are connected to the plug from below Cement Mixer Switch Connection: Three-Phase Motor, Coil Resistance, Cable Connections
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  • #2 16409772
    e2rd.o
    Level 21  
    Coil for what voltage is, maybe N does not come as it is on 230V.
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  • #3 16409864
    Sniezynka
    Level 33  
    Hello,
    The coil is 230V type 305.230 and is very often damaged.
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  • #5 16410337
    albertg08
    Level 9  
    I am green in this topic :P so the coil is broken because the switch is on 230 V yes?
  • #6 16415886
    Sniezynka
    Level 33  
    If, after pressing the start button, the contactor does not switch on and the measurement of the coil winding resistance is variable, it indicates that the coil is damaged, you need to replace the entire automaton (contactor).
  • #7 16415920
    tomex79
    Level 10  
    It is not a coil, because when the start button is pressed the contactor is switched on.
    Maybe the problem is with the "stop" button, which should be of the NC type.
    A friend of Wojtek 9007 may be right ...
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  • #8 16415946
    Sniezynka
    Level 33  
    In fact, I did not read that it turns on, so the coil works, but why such discrepancies in measurements? The contact in the contactor remains. That is, parallel circuit switching with the contacts of the "start" button.
  • #9 16415978
    tomex79
    Level 10  
    Only in this contactor I do not see an additional contact to support:
    -4 working contacts and coil power supply ...
    I would check if the "stop" button is closed (NC).
  • #10 16416017
    Krzysztof Reszka
    Moderator of Electrical engineering
    tomex79 wrote:
    only in this contactor I do not see an additional contact to support
    -4 working contacts and coil power supply ...

    Since when the 3 phase motor has 4 wires of the current circuit.
    And what is marked on the contactor 13-14.
  • #11 16424790
    nikusert
    Level 41  
    Hello .
    I met with such a solution for connecting such a switch (of course, 230V coil) that four wires came out of the motor.
    Three are known stator, while the fourth was the center of the star. The coil was powered from one phase, the other end of the coil connected to the fourth. That was the 230V coil supply. It was not a self-made connection, but the original connection of a table saw, so-called circular from the market for example Castorama etc. The power plug had of course four pins, three phase and a fourth PE.
    Greetings.
  • #12 20219611
    lukasz19875
    Level 1  
    Hello, I have a similar problem, i.e. when I hold the start button of the concrete mixer, the concrete mixer works and when it is released it stops working
    The connection looks like the picture photo of the contactor
    Of course, the ground cable (yellow-green) is connected to the motor housing

    I am asking for help / hint what is wrongly connected

    Cement Mixer Switch Connection: Three-Phase Motor, Coil Resistance, Cable Connections

    Cement Mixer Switch Connection: Three-Phase Motor, Coil Resistance, Cable Connections
  • #13 20222496
    nikusert
    Level 41  
    You need to check if there is a phase on the white wire on the right side after pressing the green start button.
    You can also disconnect the white wires and check with a multimeter (meter) if there is a transition.

Topic summary

The discussion revolves around connecting a cement mixer switch to a three-phase motor, specifically addressing issues with the switch not locking and requiring constant pressure to operate. Users suggest that the coil, rated for 230V, may be damaged, as indicated by fluctuating resistance measurements (10Kohm to 4Kohm). Recommendations include checking the connections, particularly the "stop" button type (normally closed), and ensuring proper wiring of the contactor. Some users mention the necessity of replacing the contactor if the coil is indeed faulty. Additional insights include the configuration of the motor's wiring, with one user describing a setup involving four wires, where one serves as a center tap for the coil supply.
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