First TIG HF Welder for Novice Up to PLN 1,000: Fantasy Model Halo II & Powermat PM-TIG-220G

Hey. I have slightly increased my budget since my last post. I would like to ask if you can get a decent TIG welder for a novice amateur up to PLN 1000? I know that I will still have to add PLN 500 for the cylinder and regulator, but I am aware of it. I want to have TIG and now MMA will have to be enough. I will buy what I need in 2 months.

Could I ask my colleagues for help and assessment?

Thanks.

That's what's in the budget.

-WELDER FANTASY MODEL HALO II TIG / MMA 180A
Additional HOT START, ARC FORCE, ANTI STICK functions
Nominal voltage: 230V ~ 50Hz
Phase: 1
MMA work cycle: 180A - 60%
TIG DC duty cycle: 180A - 60%
Security: 16A
Power tolerance: 10%
No-load output voltage: 64V
Insulation class: B
Weight: 7.75kg
Degree of protection: IP21
Dimensions: 385 x 160 x 270 mm

-Powermat PM-TIG-220G
No-load voltage 60V
7.3kVA input power
TIG DC / MMA welding method (electrode)
Ignition method TIG - HF (non-contact ignition)
Welding current range 10 - 220A
Operating voltage range 10.4-18.8V
Welding current duty cycle 100% 170A
Welding current duty cycle 60% 220A
60% rated duty cycle
Supported TIG electrode diameters up to 3.0mm
Supported MMA electrode diameters 1.6-3.2mm
Insulation class F
Degree of protection IP21S
The weight of the device 7.9 kg

-TOPTIG 205 PULS DC (Magnum, it looks the same)
Inverter welder designed for TIG welding
(WITH IONIZER), TIG + PULS, and MMA coated electrode.
Device power 5.6 kVA
IP21 class
TIG welding current: 200A DC
MMA welding current: 200A DC
200A / 60% duty cycle
Cooling fan
Weight: 8.5 kg

-Pirotec SIT 251/1
HOT START, ARC FORCE and ANTI STICK and HF high frequency generator
Voltage (V) 230
Maximum welding current (A) 200
Welding current adjustment range (A) 10-200
Duty cycle 20% 200 A / 60% 100 A
Electrode / wire diameters (mm) MMA: 0.8-5 TIG: 0.5-2.4

wdowski wrote:

I would like to ask if you can get a decent TIG welder for a novice amateur up to PLN 1000?

You can't, why do you need TIG in such a poor version? Isn't it better to buy MIG / MAG?

And will Mig in the PLN 1,000 version be much better?
Can you budge your comment a little bit? Give the MIG example you are talking about?
It seems to me that the answer "no, because not" is none.

I will add from myself that I need this welder to learn welding and then hobby welding a ring. I won't earn it. Size also matters because I don't have a garage or plot.

Thanks.

It won't be better, but MIG / MAG is easy to use and very versatile, you will easily learn how to weld on it what you can't say about TIG.

In cheap MIGs, I can see that the electrode cable comes out of the housing - without the Euro connector, it only limits me to the MIG.

What is cheap - it's expensive. Can we afford it?

And can we go back to the beginning and look at the subject with the eyes of an ordinary DIY hobbyist? Does every hobbyist have to have equipment for 4-5 thousand PLN to weld a pair of angles - rather not.
I know this saying that the thrifty pays twice but I just can't afford anything more expensive.

wdowski wrote:

And can we go back to the beginning and look at the subject with the eyes of an ordinary DIY hobbyist? Does every hobbyist have to have equipment for 4-5 thousand PLN to weld a pair of angles - rather not.
I know this saying that the thrifty pays twice but I just can't afford anything more expensive.

We can, why a DIY TIG hobbyist? If you buy a TIG for welding angles, you will cry. I already wrote to you, buy MIG / MAG and enjoy welding and you do not bother with TIG which is not suitable for everyday use by DIY. Even more so for PLN 1,000.

As soon as tig / MMA, wait and collect cash by buying AC. Even a magnum or related Chinese. Very good equipment for amateur. You weld aluminum, alloys.

wdowski wrote:

And will Mig in the PLN 1,000 version be much better?
Can you budge your comment a little bit? Give the MIG example you are talking about?
It seems to me that the answer "no, because not" is none.

I will add from myself that I need this welder to learn welding and then hobby welding a ring. I won't earn it. Size also matters because I don't have a garage or plot.

Thanks.

A PLN 1000 MIG will be better than a poor TIG HF.
Easier to use and more universal, especially for "beginner amateur".

I understand that in order to weld with an electrode I have to change polarization? How do I do it since the cable to the gun is permanently in MIGs for 1000. I did not see another one but I can be wrong.
And so when buying mma / tig, if the gas comes out or something else happens, I will do it anyway.

Nobody has any other ideas / suggestions? Do only 3 people have an idea in the subject?

Hello,
If you want to learn how to weld at the beginning, I suggest such a welder: http://www.sabtech.pl/spawalnictwo/spawarki-i...ig-mag-mma/spawarka-mig-mag-190-ii-mma-detail.
But I'm afraid that if you don't have space for welding and the right 230V and 25A power supply protection in the socket, only small MMA welding devices will remain, up to 100A.

The welder from the link really looks nice though heavy damn - up to 25kg

Without a dedicated place with the flow can be a problem, although I found a thread here on the forum link and someone is writing that MIG welding with 16B protection at maximum settings and worked. Maybe it's a lottery.

I need to see what's in my fuse box.

The second thing, every page is a different photo of the welder and a different description. How is it possible that the MIG 190 II MMA Digital weighs 9kg?

Possible, tin cans, no welding frame, probably a 5kg spool and a fist-sized heat sink with a capacity of 200A ...

Because there are fakes even of Chinese, Secondly, the welder must weigh light and good, unfortunately Esab or Kemppi, and it costs.
As for installation, it is important not only to protect, but also to thickness 2.5mm2 and length. Of course, you don't have to immediately weld with 3.25mm electrodes to learn, just buy 2.0mm then and the power consumed by the welder will be lower.

Thanks gentlemen for the advice. I'm going semi-automatic. Money almost collected