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AMD Athlon 4200+ Dual Core X2 64: Processor Fan Noise, Speed & Temperature Range Inquiry

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  • #1 16428520
    luki899
    Level 10  
    My Procek processor it's Athlon 4200+ dual core x2 64. The problem is incredibly loud windmill fan on the heat sink. Fan Fan I greased, cleaned. I changed the paste yesterday, it's ok, the temperature has dropped a bit, but the speed at computer startup is 2900 at 35-36 degrees. Then it is only worse and often reaches 4000 and so I have a small airport at home ... Anyone know what temperatures for this processor are ok?

    I immediately say that it is not the fault fan fan or paste because fan fan can go work quiet and currently I have 2064 turns, so it's quiet. Only thanks to the fact that in the Everest program I click on the computer at startup -> sensor. And then it's ok, I can work in peace. But it is enough to restart the computer and there is an airport ... Anyone has any idea why my computer forces high speed so strongly windmill fan ? And at 47-48 degrees, so in my opinion quite ok.

    https://obrazki.elektroda.pl/2613110500_1492857969.png - the airport

    AMD Athlon 4200+ Dual Core X2 64: Processor Fan Noise, Speed & Temperature Range Inquiry - under the OCCT load and the Everest revs program enabled

    AMD Athlon 4200+ Dual Core X2 64: Processor Fan Noise, Speed & Temperature Range Inquiry - airport, after restarting the computer and running speedfan after the OCCT test.

    Please help.

    Moderated By dt1:

    I have improved the post. There is a slight difference between the fan and fan, please see:
    - https://pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wentylator
    - https://pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wiatrak

    I would also like to ask you to use Polish letters in all words, not just selected words. At the Forum, we try to care for spelling. I have corrected the current shortage of petioles.

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  • #2 16428583
    dt1
    Admin of Computers group
    Little is known about a computer colleague, the board model can be taken from the OCCT dump, so the first question - what are the BIOS settings for cooling operation?

    AMD Athlon 4200+ Dual Core X2 64: Processor Fan Noise, Speed & Temperature Range Inquiry

    It is about CPU Smart Fan Control and CPU Smart Fan mode.
    Of course, the first should be on Enabled, and the second - depending on your cooling, which you do not know about. It is probably some small and loud cooling judging by the fact that at full speed it exceeds 4k RPM. Theoretically, Mode should set itself to AUTO and count on the fact that the BIOS from the machine will select the correct mode of operation. Theoretically, this mode should be set to Voltage for a three-wire fan, and PWM for a four-wire fan. Instead of the AUTO mode, if you have a fan with four wires, I suggest checking the behavior in turn on PWM, if it is wrong with Voltage, and in the case of a fan with three wires, I suggest checking the Voltage setting.

    It may also turn out that the hob does not like to set such low revolutions that a friend would like to have (or rather the fan with the current control from the plate is not able to go down so low), here at a friend's place I would simply buy a cooler with a smaller and quieter fan. Recently, I bought a used SilentiumPC Spartan PRO for a friend for PLN 40 (a new one costs 2x this much), because its board had a defective speed control. Compared to the original low cooling Spartan at full speed was barely audible.
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  • #3 16429640
    luki899
    Level 10  
    In the bios I have:
    AMD Athlon 4200+ Dual Core X2 64: Processor Fan Noise, Speed & Temperature Range Inquiry
    What to change?

    It was quiet at first, the paste has dried up during these few years, but today I replaced it with arctic mx-4 and it is better when it comes to temperature. But still at 41-43 degrees the system gives it 3.5k turns, only after firing Everest it changes to 1957 and it's good.
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  • #4 16430159
    dt1
    Admin of Computers group
    luki899 wrote:
    What to change?

    I just wrote what you can check. Exactly in the post above.
  • #5 16430867
    luki899
    Level 10  
    I checked on Voltage but it's the same. So maybe I will ask differently: is the temperature for this processor at rest 45-46 and 57 at 100% load is ok or too much? You can see the charm of this processor with age, Ultimately, I could spend a few zlotys and buy a new fan for the heat sink, but can I buy the fan alone? And what do you recommend?
  • #6 16431078
    Kasek21
    Level 43  
    This fan has a 3 or 4 pin power connector?

    Temperatures can be.

    As for changing the fan, if you change to something quieter and the temperatures will rise - and now they are not terribly low - unless you replace the whole cooler.
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  • #7 16431983
    luki899
    Level 10  
    3 pin.

    I guess the processor's years are doing its job, it's 10 years old. Some sample cheap fan could someone recommend? I will not be in an old computer, I don't know how much he invested, but something up to PLN 20-25?
  • #9 16432255
    luki899
    Level 10  
    the fan itself will not get? because the heat sink works well, it's warm
  • #10 16432259
    dt1
    Admin of Computers group
    I know it's 2x over budget, but maybe it's worth putting something like this:
    http://allegro.pl/silentiumpc-spartan-pro-he924-amd-sklep-gwar-i6794793762.html

    Or try to bid cheaper:
    http://allegro.pl/silentiumpc-spartan-pro-he924-i6794624360.html
    http://allegro.pl/spartan-pro-he924-i6795418906.html

    The radiator from BOX cooling is small, so it has problems with the dissipation of more heat, which is why the hob increases the speed on the fan control. It is worth exchanging for some cooling having a slightly more massive heat sink and a larger, low-speed fan.
  • #11 16432630
    r103
    Level 36  
    Replacement of cooling as they write above for some "quieter" - and - and whether there are any enclosure fans in the enclosure - at least one extracting air - usually their presence / absence / has a big impact on the CPU fan speed :-)
  • #12 16432639
    radex324
    Level 24  
    @ R103 More important is pushing air unless you want to have a land of dust inside the case.
  • #13 16432971
    luki899
    Level 10  
    dt1 wrote:
    I know it's 2x over budget, but maybe it's worth putting something like this:
    http://allegro.pl/silentiumpc-spartan-pro-he924-amd-sklep-gwar-i6794793762.html

    Or try to bid cheaper:
    http://allegro.pl/silentiumpc-spartan-pro-he924-i6794624360.html
    http://allegro.pl/spartan-pro-he924-i6795418906.html

    The radiator from BOX cooling is small, so it has problems with the dissipation of more heat, which is why the hob increases the speed on the fan control. It is worth exchanging for some cooling having a slightly more massive heat sink and a larger, low-speed fan.


    I understand. For now, however, I will fold, because I am old and I don't want to invest in it, thermal paste for PLN 27 was already a lot, because it's a 10-year-old computer ;) Just write to me, do you know what the maximum temperatures are for my Prock? Because the fan will mute by reducing the revolutions through the Everest program and it is quiet at 2k revolutions.
  • #14 16432983
    Kasek21
    Level 43  
    Do not exceed 60-65 degrees under stress.

    luki899 wrote:
    at 2k turns it is quiet.

    You must be deaf :)
  • #15 16432987
    dt1
    Admin of Computers group
    I do not know, nor do I know your processor version, because there were a few about this designation. I would assume that up to 55-60 degrees on cores would be reasonably safe.

    An investment in cooling is not money thrown away. If you buy complete with clips for AMD and Intel, then you will transfer them to the next computer.
  • #16 16433137
    luki899
    Level 10  
    Kasek21 wrote:
    Do not exceed 60-65 degrees under stress.

    luki899 wrote:
    at 2k turns it is quiet.

    You must be deaf :)


    AMD Athlon 4200+ Dual Core X2 64: Processor Fan Noise, Speed & Temperature Range Inquiry
    No seriously it is quiet, some noise can be heard but minimal.

    even under the occt at 100% load reaches 57 degrees so I think it is good, the paste exchanged gave a lot. Thanks for the help.

Topic summary

The discussion revolves around the AMD Athlon 4200+ Dual Core X2 64 processor, focusing on issues related to excessive fan noise, speed, and temperature management. The user reports a loud fan that reaches speeds of 4000 RPM, particularly during startup, despite recent maintenance including cleaning and thermal paste replacement with Arctic MX-4. Responses suggest checking BIOS settings for CPU Smart Fan Control and adjusting fan modes to reduce noise. The user inquires about acceptable temperature ranges, with responses indicating that temperatures up to 60-65 degrees Celsius under load are generally acceptable. Recommendations for quieter cooling solutions include replacing the fan or the entire cooler, with suggestions for budget-friendly options. The user expresses reluctance to invest further in the aging system but acknowledges improvements in noise and temperature after maintenance.
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