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AMD Ryzen 5 1600: Stock Paste Color Concerns, Arctic MX-2 Replacement & Overclocking Tips

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  • #1 16741387
    Piterixos
    Level 27  
    AMD Ryzen 5 1600: Stock Paste Color Concerns, Arctic MX-2 Replacement & Overclocking Tips

    I'm wondering about this yellowish color, isn't that a problem?

    If I have this Arctic MX-2, I do not know if it makes sense to replace it, the processor will be overclocked. I just don't know how to remove this paste and how to evenly apply a new one, any advice?
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  • #2 16741422
    Michalxd1232
    Level 13  
    You can leave this paste up to 3-6 months and then replace it with Arctica.

    This yellowish color is copper, he is the conductor, so there is no problem.
  • #3 16741434
    Piterixos
    Level 27  
    Why just 3-6 months? What will happen next? The paste will lose its properties?
  • #4 16741457
    Michalxd1232
    Level 13  
    So then he will lose because it is not worth removing the paste for which you pay for about PLN 5-10 1 gram, so it's worth leaving it.
  • #5 16741826
    310artur
    Level 43  
    And what is this paste, how did it get there and why do you want to overclock on such poor cooling? It seems that this CPU is not power-hungry, but this stock cooling usually only works with the factory settings. After the OC, it will be noisy, to say the least.
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  • #6 16741839
    tronics
    Level 38  
    @ 310artur series of questions, no one knows why ... how much on stock cooling 1600 can be turned up, it is enough to see in the reviews, the cooling is very good, but not necessarily super quiet. And the paste is pre-applied, which should be known to a friend. Anyway, the rhythms can only be turned to ~ 4GHz and it does not make a diametrical difference in temperatures.
  • #7 16741846
    310artur
    Level 43  
    If it is factory-made, it's nice and it can only be if the author is aware that there is (should) a foil stuck on? Because the question was a bit strange as if the author did not really know what he had in his hand.
    Well, since you write that it's good only loud, that's great - it's a matter of taste, but for me good can't be loud ... At most, it can be efficient, but not good.
    And the stupid question of replacing the toothpaste every 3-6 months? I think you run the website to recommend it so often. If I do not move the cooling, I do not change the paste as long as the temperatures are good. 2 years are good for pastes like AAB TG2 and the one on the heat sink looks similar.
  • #8 16741913
    tronics
    Level 38  
    Buddy, let's start with the basic information. There is no foil because it was not there. The heat sink is covered with a contoured material and the paste is not covered with anything. To make it funnier, it was exactly the same in the FX series (only there the profiled "plug" fitted better and prevented oxidation / drying out. That's one. Two - if for a friend "not necessarily super quiet" means loud, I really advise you to read the text again, this time Of course, that cooling will be less efficient than such spartan 1024, so to have a similar temperature the fan will have to spin more. And now the information from one hand - the spartan HE1024 on all loaded cores keeps the temperature ... 45 ° C. What cooling capacity do you need to have
  • #9 16741941
    310artur
    Level 43  
    As for the 3rd, my mistake.
    As for 1 and 2 - good to know. I do not work on the site, and somehow I have never convinced myself to AMD. Anyway, the foil or cap must be removed before mounting on the CPU. And the question "what to remove it" still bothers me - after all, "it" can be removed with anything, as long as the cap is removed.
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  • #10 16743188
    Piterixos
    Level 27  
    I turned up the processor to 3.7GHz, auto voltage (according to HWmonitor 1.27v), after 20 minutes of prime95 the temperature is 63 * C. In idle (0-10% consumption) the temperature dropped to 38 ° C, and after another 15 minutes it stabilized at 34 ° C. After increasing the speed of the two fans in the housing from low (inaudible) to high (clearly audible), the temperature drops to 31 * C

    The fan revolutions on the heat sink are max 2777 under stress and 2020 at rest, and their volume level is adequately audible but not at all disturbing and barely audible.

    So, rather, no foil got tangled there.

    Interestingly, the temperature of the motherboard given by HWmonitor is higher than that of the processor, the maximum was 66 * C.

    I think these are good results, I haven't tweaked it higher yet.

    In the future, maybe I will buy better cooling and use Arctic MX-2 paste, but for now it seems that there is no such need.
  • #11 16743932
    310artur
    Level 43  
    Try programs from the manufacturer of the board for monitoring temperatures and voltages. Other programs, especially HWmonitor, can distort readings. If it is an independent program, HWiNFO will be a better choice for the bank.
    Maybe someone else will tell you because I do not know how it is in AMD, especially new ones, but generally it's better not to rely on the AUTO voltage. The records like to give more than is needed there, especially with higher OC.
  • #12 16744098
    Piterixos
    Level 27  
    According to HWinfo, it is not so colorful anymore, 78 * C with a simultaneous load on the graphics card and 72 * C when only the processor is under stress. And all this with two fans in the housing working at increased speed, when I set the speed to low and charged both the card and the temperature, it increased to 84 * C, at this point I increased the speed.

    An interesting thing, however, is that after turning off the prime 95, the temperature dropped from 72 * C to 40 * C in just a few seconds, I suppose it's due to the fans in the housing. But overall these temperatures are so average to me.

    So the questions are as follows:

    1. What kind of cooling for the processor to buy?

    https://www.morele.net/chloszenia-cpu-silentiumpc-fortis-3-he1425-v2-spc130-707501/

    It will be ok or something cheaper will be enough?

    2. I think I would buy another (or maybe two or three) 120mm fan for the case, what model is it worth buying? There are dozens of apricots, it is hard to tell, this model looks good: https://www.morele.net/silentiumpc-sigma-pro-120-pwm-spc134-835426/
  • #13 16744109
    atomic99
    Level 34  
    - 1. This Fortis is enough and it will be quiet, I have already set up several sets in terms of price / quality revelation.

    -2. The [SilentiumPC Sigma Pro 120] fans are fine too.

    Only one quite important thing, you did not write what your case and motherboard you have, which is quite important when choosing the fans.
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  • #14 16744111
    tronics
    Level 38  
    Ryzenes (especially early series) did not give the temperatures correctly anyway, so I would not be so worried about Piterixos, open the side wall and measure the bottom of the heat sink with a digital window thermometer (the one with a probe) and you will know more or less what it looks like. > 80 ° C is quite a lot, as I wrote on HE1024 and with full load, not a moment where I could not touch the heat sink and hold my hand, so the temperatures do not exceed 60 ° C. You have to be careful with larger coolants on unadapted boards, they are heavy and can bend the PCB. I have not seen brackets on cheaper models, so if your friend has one, please do not overdo it with the weight.
  • #15 16744603
    Piterixos
    Level 27  
    The motherboard is MSI B350 PC Mate - https://www.msi.com/Motherboard/B350-PC-MATE.html
    Silentium Gladius M35 chassis - https://www.silentiumpc.com/gladius-m35-pure-black/

    I have a total of 6 cooling slots on the disc. The housing already has these two SilentiumPC Sigma Pro 120 fans built in, you can add 3 more. It says that the album is Military Class 4, but opinions about whether this standard means anything are divided.

    But I do not know yet whether to take PWM or DC these fans, PWM will not be able to be connected to the controller in the housing, on the other hand, I do not know if it is better for me to use the controller on the board, the one in the housing allows only two speeds of rotation, one of which is not it provides too spectacular effects (although with 5 fans it could change), while at higher revs it is already a bit loud, 5 would be too much.

    But DC also allows RPM control, so I think I'll take it. The question here is - what are the practical differences between the two solutions. All I found is that the DC fans may be less finely regulated at low speed. Anything else worth knowing?
  • #16 16746121
    310artur
    Level 43  
    Supposedly DC takes more current at low speed but this can be ignored. But they are cheaper.
    As for cooling, you can always hunt for something second-hand. For 140PLN you will get the termalright 120 somewhere, you will put it on a slow-running fan (800RPM is enough) and you don't even need anything else for the housing. At most one additional upstairs for exhaust. You just have to check it out with the mounting of this block because it already weighs a lot.
    I have a thermalrigta u90i such a smaller brother with enemax magma set at 800RPM and it effectively cools the Xeon X5470 (about 130W), so it should work almost passively for you.
  • #18 16781777
    atomic99
    Level 34  
    Piterixos wrote:
    ... Any contraindications?

    None :)
    I have such a set and I recommend it, the silence of the coolness :)
    AMD Ryzen 5 1600: Stock Paste Color Concerns, Arctic MX-2 Replacement & Overclocking Tips


    You can buy a little cheaper:

    https://www.ceneo.pl/47605326

    https://allegro.pl/listing?string=SilentiumPC...nce-floki-5-nga-hcp-ele-1-3-1003&price_to=187


    For PLN 200, you can also buy [Thermal Grizzly Kryonaut] or [Gelid GC-Extreme] paste, which should additionally improve cooling.
  • #19 16781810
    Piterixos
    Level 27  
    atomic99 wrote:
    Piterixos wrote:
    ... Any contraindications?

    None :)
    I have such a set and I recommend it, the silence of the coolness :)
    AMD Ryzen 5 1600: Stock Paste Color Concerns, Arctic MX-2 Replacement & Overclocking Tips


    You can buy a little cheaper:

    https://www.ceneo.pl/47605326

    https://allegro.pl/listing?string=SilentiumPC...nce-floki-5-nga-hcp-ele-1-3-1003&price_to=187


    For PLN 200, you can also buy [Thermal Grizzly Kryonaut] or [Gelid GC-Extreme] paste, which should additionally improve cooling.


    And these RAM memories can you normally insert and remove without disassembling the cooling? And doesn't the whole thing bend the motherboard too much?
  • #20 16782020
    atomic99
    Level 34  
    I do not have to disassemble all the cooling, only the fan is enough. Although I installed the memory when folding the computer, I did not move them. :)

    Nothing bends, Fera, Fortis and Grandis cooling systems have the same mounting system, which for me is a revelation,
    all you need is a flat screwdriver, photo, 2 fans, unscrewing 2 screws and the paste can be replaced.

    Earlier, I had a cooling system [Zalman CNPS14X] in which the assembly was massacre, and without removing the CD it was a reeling for half an hour some strange 4 screws screwed on with a strangely bent key - a massacre.
  • #21 17152106
    Mc Confusing
    Level 10  
    Browse YouTube videos with 1600 underlined and not underlined. For me, these few fps in games at the expense of a warmer professor and a generally worse work culture does not make sense. Stock clocks are good for current games, compilations of programs, etc. I would take care of tweaking Ryzenach when it starts to run out of power and playing or whatever you do will cease to be comfortable. That's my opinion ;)

Topic summary

The discussion revolves around concerns regarding the yellowish color of the stock thermal paste on the AMD Ryzen 5 1600 CPU, with users clarifying that this is due to copper and not a problem. Recommendations suggest that the stock paste can be left for 3-6 months before replacement with Arctic MX-2, although some argue that if temperatures remain stable, there may be no need for replacement. Overclocking tips are shared, noting that the stock cooling may not be sufficient for high overclocks, leading to increased noise levels. Users discuss various cooling solutions, including the SilentiumPC Fortis and Grandis models, and the importance of proper fan configuration for optimal cooling performance. The conversation also touches on the effectiveness of different thermal pastes and the necessity of monitoring temperatures accurately.
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