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Adjusting 12V Motor Speed: Create Controller for Car Wiper with LM317 Transistor Circuit

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  • #1 16429668
    marcinek221333
    Level 7  
    Hello, I wanted to make a 12V motor speed controller from the car wipers and someone can send me a system so that the speed is reduced but not too much power. I heard that you can make a circuit on the Lm317 transistor, but it is probably up to 2A and such a motor takes much more under load. I would like to ask for help.
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  • #2 16429678
    kokapetyl
    Level 43  
    marcinek221333 wrote:
    so that the revs decrease, but not too much power.

    There is nothing for free. :D
  • #3 16429728
    marcinek221333
    Level 7  
    But the power will drop a lot?

    Added after 6 [minutes]:

    And you propose a deal
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  • #5 16430034
    _jta_
    Electronics specialist
    * If we reduce the revolutions, the power must decrease at least proportionally.

    * LM317 is not a transistor but a voltage stabilizer. And it is not suitable for speed control.

    * In this similar topic, the discussants have a mediocre idea of how this is done - I didn't notice any mention of feedback or motor EMF.

    Integrated circuits have long been specialized to regulate the rotation of motors. Before, transistors were used - for example, the MK125 tape recorder had a transistor regulator. In those days, linear regulators were used - for low-power motors they could be, but for higher power, pulsed ones are better. It's just that someone who knows little, invents the use of a PWM system, or a triac dimmer system (when powered from the mains), and probably has no idea that this is not a speed control, only medium voltage control, or that it is not the same (and the difference in performance is that the motor torque is reduced). The speed controller system is to stabilize the engine EMF, and with high power it is to do it through PWM, but it is not limited to the PWM itself (the difference is that in the speed controller there is feedback from the motor to the controller, in the voltage controller not there was, there was a speed regulator) - I don't remember seeing a diagram of such a speed regulator system on the forum. But there is definitely a scalak for that with a description of how to use it (and probably in the title of the description there is "motor regulator") - this has been widely used for decades.
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    #7 16430290
    aksakal
    Tube devices specialist
    The photos show variants of pulse regulators. The regulation is performed not with the change of voltage and current, but with the pulse width, which practically has a minimal effect on the motor power. Adjusting 12V Motor Speed: Create Controller for Car Wiper with LM317 Transistor Circuit Adjusting 12V Motor Speed: Create Controller for Car Wiper with LM317 Transistor Circuit
  • #8 16431130
    marcinek221333
    Level 7  
    the latter system seems easier to me, so I will probably choose it if it will be a good choice for such a wiper motor
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  • #9 16431331
    aksakal
    Tube devices specialist
    The circuits differ only in the type and number of transistors. Using MOS-FET transistors has the advantage - less power loss. BD911 can be replaced with MOS-FET transistor.
  • #10 16431465
    marcinek221333
    Level 7  
    Thank you for your help

Topic summary

The discussion revolves around creating a 12V motor speed controller for car wipers using an LM317 voltage regulator. The original poster seeks a solution to reduce motor speed without significant power loss. Responses clarify that the LM317 is not suitable for this application due to its current limitations (up to 2A) and that reducing speed will inherently decrease power. Suggestions include using pulse width modulation (PWM) for better efficiency and minimal power loss, with references to various circuit designs. The use of MOSFET transistors is recommended for lower power loss compared to traditional transistors. The poster expresses interest in simpler solutions and considers adopting a PWM-based approach.
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