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Wiring Setup for Sliding Gate, Wicket, CCTV, Automation, and Intercom Systems

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  • #1 19536348
    PC06
    Level 8  
    A warm welcome to you all.

    I am at the stage of working on erecting a fence, making a block entrance to the property etc.

    I think this is the time to prepare properly with the wiring and here I would like to ask for your help and advice.

    The items I was thinking of 'having installed' at the front fence are:

    - sliding gate with operator - opened by remote control, via SMS? Opening by photocell? What options come into play here?
    - Traffic light for opening/closing the gate
    - video intercom for opening the gate and wicket
    - Electric lock to open the wicket
    - Keypad to open the wicket
    - 1 wicket camera overlooking the entrance to the property and the wicket entrance
    - lighting on fence posts (fence will be made of JONIEC blocks).

    At the moment I have two wires running from the distribution board inside the house to the outside: YKYżo 3x2.5 to power the gate and an external twisted pair to power the video intercom. Of course, I know that this is not enough, but I let these wires out much earlier.

    Are the components listed above such a "standard" for this day and age? Will such elements be sufficient for installation when one does not expect God knows what wonders and fabulousness, but only all the necessary automation elements for the present times?
    I understand, of course, that the number of facilities is limited only by the investor's imagination and wallet, but I would like to secure the wiring for all the necessary elements I have listed above.

    I would very much appreciate your help and advice - I mean hints as to whether the elements I have listed are such a required set, and if so, what kind of wiring to run while there is time and space. If you would add an automation component then please also provide information, ideas etc.

    Many thanks in advance for all your help! :wink:
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  • #2 19537767
    gkwiatkowski
    CCTV and Stationary Alarms specialist
    If they are going to make gate and wicket posts, have them poured on a common foundation. Depending on the ground and how frozen it is, posts can deviate from vertical.
  • #3 19537796
    PC06
    Level 8  
    gkwiatkowski wrote:
    If they are going to make posts for the gate and wicket, have them poured on a common foundation. Depending on the ground and how frozen it is, the posts can deviate from the vertical.


    Hi.

    I completely fail to understand the irony. What is ours, Polish, that everyone must know everything and it is a crime to create a topic and ask a question. The approach certainly changes when it comes to coughing up fat sums of money....

    It would really be a waste of my time to browse the forum, find a topic with a question (perhaps misguided, who knows) and give this kind of answer. Well, but somehow one has to seek attentiveness, if only virtually.


    Nevertheless, if anyone would be willing to give a hint - I would be very grateful :) .
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  • #4 19537800
    sosarek

    Level 43  
    PC06 wrote:
    Although, if anyone would be willing to give a hint - I would be very grateful :)
    .
    Have a look at the topics from the last few weeks, hooked up at the top of the section with a collection of topics....
    Helpful post? Buy me a coffee.
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  • #5 19537820
    gkwiatkowski
    CCTV and Stationary Alarms specialist
    PC06 wrote:
    Part.

    I completely fail to understand the irony. What is ours, the Polish one, that everyone must know everything and it is a crime to create a topic and ask a question. The approach certainly changes when it comes to coughing up fat sums of money....


    Where did you see the irony in my reply?

    Added after 4 [minutes]:

    PC06 wrote:
    I'd really be wasting my time browsing the forum, finding a topic with questions (perhaps misplaced, who knows) and giving this kind of answer. Well, but somehow one has to seek attentiveness, if only virtually.
    .

    Apologies for giving you advice next to the main subject of your question.
  • #6 19537833
    PC06
    Level 8  
    gkwiatkowski wrote:
    PC06 wrote:
    Company.

    I completely fail to understand the irony. What is ours, the Polish one, that everyone must know everything and it is a crime to create a topic and ask a question. The approach certainly changes when it comes to coughing up fat sums of money....


    Where did you see the irony in my reply?

    Added after 4 [minutes]:

    PC06 wrote:
    I'd really be wasting my time browsing the forum, finding a topic with questions (perhaps misplaced, who knows) and giving this kind of answer. Well, but somehow one has to seek attentiveness, if only virtually.
    .

    Apologies for giving you advice next to the main subject of your question.



    What does your answer about pouring foundations have to do with the core of my topic?
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  • #7 19537846
    gkwiatkowski
    CCTV and Stationary Alarms specialist
    PC06 wrote:
    Nevertheless, if anyone would be willing to give a hint - I would be very grateful :)
    .

    Having said all that, the minimum kit for the intercom at the gate is two gel-filled twisted-pair earth cables and a twisted-pair cable for the gate operator. A kit to give you peace of mind is two twisted-pair cables, two YTDY or YTKSY 8x0.8 and electric 3x1.5 for the wicket and two twisted-pair cables for the gate operator. All earth.
    The maximum set is Arot or PVC pipes a minimum of 10 cm in diameter from the house to the small telecom manhole at the wicket and at the gate drive. Then they pull in whatever you want at any time. Even a fibre optic cable from your internet provider.
  • #8 19537852
    sosarek

    Level 43  
    gkwiatkowski wrote:
    and a twisted pair for the gate operator
    .
    Well, and a twisted pair in the gate light for the photocells....
    Helpful post? Buy me a coffee.
  • #9 19537855
    gkwiatkowski
    CCTV and Stationary Alarms specialist
    PC06 wrote:
    What does your response about pouring foundations have to do with the crux of my topic?


    If you forget some cable, you will ultimately have to dig up your garden and possibly strip some paving.
    If poor foundations cause you to have to constantly adjust the wicket hinges, electric door opener AND gate with every major temperature change, you'll have to tear them down and pour over them again. Such a mistake is simply harder to fix.
  • #10 19537864
    PC06
    Level 8  
    Thank you for your responses so far and for bringing the topic to life.

    Can I still ask for a brief, word-for-word summary of what wires to run between the house electrical switchboard - gate operator, house electrical switchboard - wicket, gate operator - photocells in the gate light, etc.?

    The example I have in mind:
    - YKYżo 3x2.5 mm2 (to the gate operator) - from the electrical switchboard at home to the gate operator
    - etc...

    This would be a complete one-stop guide for me where I would know what wires to buy, which wire is for what and where to run it from.
  • #11 19539045
    Andrzej42
    Level 31  
    Choose a drive and an intercom (video intercom) - the instructions will give you what you need, and you will have to choose the additional lights, cameras and other features yourself and lay the cables according to the technology.
    For example, if you are using basic smart home components, a power supply and two mains cables (one spare) will suffice.
  • #12 19541797
    suworow
    VIP Meritorious for electroda.pl
    PC06 wrote:
    What does your reply about pouring foundations have to do with the core of my topic?
    .
    Because it is, unfortunately, a common mistake that later hiccups ;) .
    Andrzej42 wrote:
    Select drive and intercom (video intercom) - in the instructions you will have what you need,
    .
    And this is the difference between an electrician and someone who specialises in low-voltage installations. The electrician lays the cable for specific equipment, while we try to make it as universal as possible for every possible equipment with an option for expansion.
    Andrzej42 wrote:
    E.g., using basic smart home components it is enough with the house power supply and two mains (one spare).

    Bright and switch in the fence ;) You can and do.
    PC06 wrote:
    At the moment I have the switchboard out
    .
    Yes, my colleague's installation must be powered somehow, but it should end in such a place that it can be easily connected to the alarm system, cctv, network.
  • #13 19541889
    PC06
    Level 8  
    suworow wrote:
    And this is how an electrician differs from someone who specializes in low-voltage installations. The electrician lays the cable for specific equipment, while we try to make it as universal as possible for every possible equipment with an option for expansion.
    .

    This is the right approach in my opinion. I'm now at the stage of earth, concrete and masonry work with which to tie in cable issues but I'm not thinking about specific equipment yet. I want to be as well and universally prepared as possible.

    Can you still help me with this issue I wrote about in a previous post?

    Can I still ask for a brief, keyword summary of what wires to run between the electrical switchboard at home - gate operator, electrical switchboard at home - wicket, gate operator - photocells in the gate light, etc.?

    The example I have in mind:
    - YKYżo 3x2.5 mm2 (to the gate operator) - from the electrical switchboard at home to the gate operator
    - etc...

    This would be a complete one-stop guide for me where I would know what wires to buy, which wire is for what and where to run it from.

    Added at 5 [hours] 37 [minutes]: .

    Following the advice of some users, I asked one company to select specific equipment in terms of the functionality I had listed that I would like to have available.

    The list of equipment below:
    - BX STRONG SPACE drive set
    - IP video intercom kit Dahua KTP01(F) flush mounted.
    - Access control module Dahua DEE1010B
    - Cipher lock ZS-215W
    - Power supply PSC12015 12V /1.5A /62mm hermet.
    - 1410RF electromagnetic lock 12VDC/AC
    - IP dome camera IPC-HDW2231T-AS-0280B-S2 2MP 2.8mm
    - Warning lamp 230V AC KLED

    Can anyone confirm that this kit will meet my requirements as I listed in the first post of the topic? What wires do I necessarily run from the switchboard from the house to the outside of the building to provide a set of wires for this kit?
  • #14 19543071
    suworow
    VIP Meritorious for electroda.pl
    Without seeing the object and without data on the distances of the objects in relation to each other and the details, one can give very general advice, the application of which in your case may not be entirely fortunate. Give some data. Among other things, I wrote about the interconnection of installations. You have not even stammered on this subject. The other thing is that it is at this stage that the company installing the cameras, intercom, gate automation should step in and take on the burden of distributing the correct wiring. They will probably, as specialists, find the optimum solutions, advise something else, etc. If you are counting on the cube people to take care of everything, or you to take care of it, forget it.
    That's how this kit will meet the requirements. However, I am unable to say, in the light of the information I have, whether this is the optimum solution in your case.
  • #15 19543171
    starob
    Level 29  
    PC06 wrote:
    - IP video intercom kit Dahua KTP01(F) flush mounted.
    - Access control module Dahua DEE1010B
    - Cipher lock ZS-215W
    .

    Instead, consider the Grandstream GDS3710 and GSC3570 kit - you're breaking out a compact kit with an additional built-in RFID reader. It comes out at a similar price but technically better.
  • #16 19545941
    Andrzej42
    Level 31  
    If you really want to have a universal solution, put the tubes in where you can: through the foundations every few metres, in the pillars, etc., etc. Even if the technology changes in a while, you'll take out the old ones and put in new ones.
    That's how I did it in my flat - one Internet company gave a coax - there you go, then came the new one - network - there you go: coax is gone, and hello network, and now it's time for optical fibre, apart from changing the location of the computer or TV.

Topic summary

The discussion revolves around the wiring setup for a sliding gate, wicket, CCTV, automation, and intercom systems at a property entrance. The user seeks advice on the appropriate wiring to connect various components, including a sliding gate operator, traffic lights, video intercoms, electric locks, keypads, cameras, and lighting. Responses emphasize the importance of planning for sufficient wiring, suggesting a minimum of two gel-filled twisted-pair cables for the intercom and additional cables for the gate operator and photocells. Recommendations include using universal conduits for future upgrades and ensuring proper foundations for gate installations to avoid future adjustments. Specific wiring examples are requested to clarify the connections needed between the electrical switchboard and the various components.
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