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Bemko N7-4-40-030 40A Three-Phase Differential Switch - Overload and Continuous Breaks

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Why does a 40A three-phase RCD trip after about 20 minutes and then keep tripping continuously in a normal house installation?

The most likely cause is not overload, but a leakage-current problem or wiring fault somewhere in the installation, possibly from a permanently connected appliance that "lives its own life" such as a fridge, TV, oven electronics, or even a varistor in a power supply [#16460318] You need to describe the installation exactly and say what it protects, ideally with photos of the switchgear, because without that the cause can only be guessed [#16460031] [#16460188] [#16460680] Check whether anything was changed in a zeroed installation, because that can make the RCD trip and is not an acceptable solution; the protective conductor must not be broken [#16460680] [#16460835] If the trips are intermittent and happen after some time, it fits the pattern of summed leakage currents exceeding the RCD threshold rather than an overload breaker trip [#16460755] If possible, measure the installation and isolate connected loads one by one to find the offending circuit or device [#16460319]
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  • #1 16460021
    Mitgat
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    Hello !
    I replaced the three-phase differential switch with a Bemko N7-4-40-030 40 A. Everything cools only after about 20 minutes, it starts to fly out, and when it first flies away, it flies non-stop. You have to disconnect it for about an hour and again hold 20 minutes and then continuous breaks. It behaves as if it had an overload member. There are combined differentials, i.e. a differential with overcurrent, but I have not read anywhere in the description or in the diagram that this circuit breaker has an overcurrent element. In addition, 40 A difference for an ordinary home is probably not too small. This is central protection for the whole house. I don't have any major power devices at home (standard equipment). I do not have any measuring equipment because it was in work, but if it was going to the ground, it is immediately and not after 20 minutes, at most on Monday I will bring it and measure it. If anyone has any ideas what is wrong I will be grateful.

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    mitgat
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  • #2 16460031
    retrofood
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    Leave the ground fault breaker alone and write what this installation is, what it protects. Just exactly.
  • #3 16460043
    Łukasz-O
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    Presumably a device with a variable duty cycle may be the cause.
    However, without knowing the details, you can only predict the grounds.
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  • #4 16460188
    Anonymous
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  • Err reading identified a faulty RCD requiring replacement

    #5 16460319
    mawerix123
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    Mitgat wrote:
    I have replaced a three phase differential switch


    Why did you replace it? :?:

    Mitgat wrote:
    central protection for the whole house.


    Typical installation budget error.

    I had similar on one of the RCDs installed in my switchgear, from time to time he turned it off, so I turned off all the receivers that were connected to the circuits from this RDC but still every now and then 5 other times 20 min. RCD turned off. So I took the installation meter and decided to measure this RCD and when I tried to measure the current and time the symbol Err appeared on the meter ... RCD clearly to be replaced.
    I do not write that it will be the same for you, but I wanted to emphasize that to find the reason it is best to use the right tools.
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  • #6 16460318
    Anonymous
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  • #7 16460680
    kSmuk
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    Take a photo of the switchgear without obstructions and write what the network layout is and whether you are doing something at the time when the RCD trips.

    Maybe a stupid question, but you did not want to improve the installation sometimes and did not install it in a zeroed installation?
  • #8 16460710
    karolark
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    kSmuk wrote:

    Maybe a stupid question, but you did not want to improve the installation sometimes and did not install it in a zeroed installation?


    And then you could turn on the RCD?
  • #9 16460755
    kSmuk
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    karolark wrote:
    And then you could turn on the RCD?

    Yes, in many cases it would be possible to turn on the switch. Especially when the sum of current leakages does not exceed the switch threshold (e.g. no cooker connected to a steel gas pipe). Tripping usually occurs sporadically, when the leakage currents exceeds the threshold of the RCD trip.
  • #10 16460835
    kkas12
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    kSmuk wrote:
    ... (e.g. no stove connected to a steel gas pipe). In such a case it usually turns off sporadically ...
    But it does occur.
    However, it should be clearly stated that this solution is unacceptable because the RCD breaks the protective conductor. And this must never be done.

Topic summary

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The discussion revolves around issues experienced with a Bemko N7-4-40-030 40A three-phase differential switch, which trips after approximately 20 minutes of operation, suggesting potential overload or fault conditions. Users suggest examining the installation details, including connected devices that may cause intermittent faults, such as refrigerators or other appliances. The importance of understanding the network layout and ensuring proper installation practices is emphasized, particularly regarding the handling of protective conductors and the implications of leakage currents on the RCD's functionality. Suggestions include providing more information about the installation and any changes made prior to the switch replacement.
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