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Kosa - McCulloch 4330x Pro: Correct Mixing Ratio, Oil Type, Stihl HP vs Mannol 2T Universal, API TC

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  • #1 16491231
    murgrabia
    Level 18  
    Good day.
    Recently, I have a mowing scythe mcculloch 4330x pro. Practically a nówka. She worked literally over a dozen hours. The previous owner used mannol 2t universal oil. But by reviewing the instructions I am writing to use fully synthetic 2T oil. And this mannol is mineral. On the orlen they have only semi-synthetic. Trawol oil, such as 100ml bottles (red and green). I went for the oil service (and at the same time the store) Stihl. Because I only have one on the way. There, you gave me Stihl HP oil. And he said that this one would be suitable. Because most use such oil in their equipment. In addition, he stated that it does not matter whether it is a mineral or a synthesizer. But does it have the same viscosity class or API TC. And the one from Orlen, let me donate. I went home and checked this HP stihl oil and what? The same mineral. I'm getting nerves slowly. In addition to the previous owner, I did not ask. What was the ratio of oil to gasoline.
    And the instructions are a little bit mixed up:
    Oil 2t - 1:25
    Mcculloch oil - 1:40
    Partner oil - 1:50

    1.) What proportions should be used?
    2.) Can it be this mineral Stihl HP or Orlen Trawol?
    3.) What is the difference between red and green oil?

    Generally, they are stupid. I made a mixture of 1:40 mannol oil. What I got with a scythe. And all in all, nothing happened. The flue was fuming blue. Intensity of exhaust gases is average. Not too much, not too little. I did not make a smokescreen. But watching, for example, the work of professional mowers. It is practically impossible to see the fumes from their blackbird. I could mow with 3 hours. But he did not want to destroy the scythe.
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  • #2 16491282
    Xantix
    Level 41  
    murgrabia wrote:
    But he did not want to destroy the scythe.

    As for me, the rules are quite simple. Brand mowers of the type Stihl, Husqvarna, Oleo-mac, etc. need a 1:50 mix (that is, as it usually appears on the packaging of the popular oils Stihl or Makita). However, all market Chinese inventions should receive oil 1:25. Simply, the manufacturer compensates for poor materials with stronger engine lubrication.
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  • #3 16491367
    murgrabia
    Level 18  
    Xantix wrote:
    As for me, the rules are quite simple. Brand mowers of the type Stihl, Husqvarna, Oleo-mac, etc. need a 1:50 mix (that is, as it usually appears on the packaging of the popular oils Stihl or Makita). However, all market Chinese inventions should receive oil 1:25. Simply, the manufacturer compensates for poor materials with stronger engine lubrication.
    Well, maybe anyway. Only that he also writes electrolux and Husqvarna on this scythe. And the engine in it is 4eop 46sh203. So the same engines. Even the partner uses this engine. And the price on the receipt is PLN 1470. So, rather with Chinese crap, there is not much in common. I do not know why three possibilities of the mixture are given for this scythe in the table. I have read that if there is a poor mixture, the engine will quickly disappear (no lubrication - logical). And if it's too rich, it's not too good either. Apparently, it is supposed to be choking, not having the power, flooding the candle, oil leak from the exhaust, extinguishing the exhaust, smoking like old diesel with damaged injections, etc. In general, I reviewed the current offers of Husqvarna or mccullocha and all are given 1:50. But there are other engines there.

    PS
    I understand it like this:
    Oil 2t - 1:25 - ordinary oil for two-stroke engines. So in the specification there is no mention of scythes, saws, etc. Such an ordinary motoring.

    Mcculloch oil - 1:40 - produced by this company. Just strange, he writes 1:50 on bottles, not 1:40?

    Partner oil - 1:50 - produced by this company. But I did not meet such oil.
    Generally, I still do not know anything. :?:
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  • #4 16491392
    Xantix
    Level 41  
    murgrabia wrote:
    Oil 2t - 1:25 - ordinary oil for two-stroke engines. So in the specification there is no mention of scythes, saws, etc. Such an ordinary motoring.

    Because ordinary 2t oil is engine oil with moderate RPM. And saw oil is for high speed two stroke engines. A slightly different composition and properties. Suitable for motorcycles or mermaids. :)

    murgrabia wrote:
    Mcculloch oil - 1:40 - produced by this company. Just strange, he writes 1:50 on bottles, not 1:40?

    Because 1:50 is a universal proportion for most appliances. And you, in any case, have manufacturer's instructions. As the producer tells you to give 1:40, you give it and no matter how much it is written on the packaging.

    murgrabia wrote:
    I do not know why three possibilities of the mixture are given for this scythe in the table.

    Because the manufacturer predicts that you can use different oils and the oil is not even oil and adjusts the mixture to the quality of the oil.

    murgrabia wrote:
    And if it's too rich, it's not too good either.

    And so better than how the mixture is too dry.

    murgrabia wrote:
    Apparently it is supposed to be choking, not having the power, flooding the candle, leaking oil from the exhaust, sealing the exhaust, smoking like from old diesel with damaged injections, etc.

    Mainly it's about nagar - too "fat" mixture, and all the oil can not burn, some of it deposits in the cylinder or in the exhaust and the engine crumbles. So, it's coping with power over time.
  • #5 16494960
    kamilo23
    Level 22  
    For partner machines, macculloch, mix ratio 1:40. Good strong, machine.
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