Opinions on Voltcraft DSO-1062d Digital Oscilloscope with 60MHz Bandwidth?

Hello,
the question, although a bit late, because I became the owner of the oscilloscope less than a month ago. The equipment has 2 channels with a bandwidth of 60 MHz and a maximum real-time sampling rate of 1 GSa / s. Nevertheless, I would like to know the opinion of the group of experts in this forum and each user about this equipment. So far, I used it to sample the square wave signal from the generator on ne555. I am not a professional in the field of electronics, it is my passion. I thought that at the beginning it would be good, the 1000 zlotys I gave for it also confirmed me that it was not just any money, a year warranty. I am not writing because something is happening works great but maybe you could wait and add a little bit and have a better one? It bites me ....

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Best wishes.

In my opinion, it can be a hobby as long as you do not watch VHF frequencies. The price is also cool (in Conrad, they want PLN 2,000 for that). My appearance is basically the same, but a bit better Hantek DSO5102BM (100MHz, 1Gs) for PLN 1500 and I'm happy.

For a hobbyist at the beginning, that's enough. You will use 50% of its possibilities anyway. As for picking up something better, in my opinion it is a dead end, because you can always add and buy a better one, etc ...

Simon79 wrote:

For a hobbyist at the beginning, that's enough. You will use 50% of its possibilities anyway. As for picking up something better, in my opinion it is a dead end, because you can always add and buy a better one, etc ...

It is not a dead end, you just have to be aware of what you need, sometimes without putting down your money you have no chance to buy a measuring device that would help us do something ... unless someone is a supporter of taking loans without hesitation;]

1000 PLN for this oscilloscope is really no occasion. There is no point in the price in Conrad, this store is quite expensive, and additionally, the Voltcraft is generally indecently expensive for what it offers (especially since it is virtually unserviceable).
Other brands of this class are commercially available at similar prices.
If you bought a new oscilloscope, the price is as good as possible, but if you bought a used one, it was better to add PLN 200-300 and buy a new one from another brand.

Generally an oscilloscope like an oscilloscope, in my opinion it has a bit of a clunky-looking menu, and besides, if it works and is sufficient for your application then it's ok. It's definitely worth updating to the latest version (if it isn't). There are many errors in cheap devices (not only oscilloscopes) and software updates quite often eliminate various ailments

MiernikZKauflanda wrote:

The price is also cool (in Conrad, they want PLN 2,000 for that).

The price in Conrad is greatly exaggerated. You can buy them on the Allegro for about ~ 1100 PLN.
Second, these oscilloscopes have a serious drawback, as described HERE.

Each oscilloscope of this class has some drawbacks. There someone tested it at 50MHz, take the famous Rigola 1054Z, give it 20MHz set the trigger to AC and you will have a ribbon, not a sine wave ...
You won't find cheap equipment without ailments. Some of them are actually flaws and errors in the software, and some are hardware errors because someone wanted to push as much as possible for the lowest price and it cannot be improved.
Even if you buy Hamega or Tektronix for a dozen or so thousand and thoroughly test it, you will probably find some accidents, although here definitely less, and you can count on any technical support.

Artur k. wrote:

any technical support you can count on.

Exactly, and Conrad has zero after-warranty service I found out about it. Their repair consists in replacing it with a new one.

And which of the Chinese brands has post-warranty service? NDN boasts that they are repairing Rigol, but how it is in reality with post-warranty repairs, I have no idea. It may be that they fix some faults and not others.
No Hanteki, Siglenty, Atteny, Gratten and other cheap equipment have any post-warranty service anywhere (or at least I haven't found it).

Artur k. wrote:

And which of the Chinese brands has post-warranty service? NDN boasts that they are repairing Rigol, but how it is in reality with post-warranty repairs, I have no idea. It may be that they fix some faults and not others.
No Hanteki, Siglenty, Atteny, Gratten and other cheap equipment have any post-warranty service anywhere (or at least I haven't found it).

Because in most cases it is so that if some "magician" can not cope with the fault, they exchange for new equipment and that's it. So the service is probably limited to simple damage and that's it. Alternatively, a better distributor may have access to ready-made components such as the entire motherboard, display, etc., which are replaced.

Rather, no one is playing burying and exchanging elements on the plate ...

tplewa wrote:

Alternatively, a better distributor may have access to ready-made components such as the entire motherboard, display, etc., which are replaced.

Of course it is, but under warranty. After the guarantee, no one does it, because it simply does not pay off.
As you can see, some do not even do it under warranty, but only replace the entire device.
Electronics in China is so cheap that there is no point in repairing such cheap devices (because not only oscilloscopes are concerned) to repair under warranty, and even less after warranty.
If you count the cost of parts in any cheap device, it will turn out that if you want to buy these parts in a store and build such a device, you will pay 2x more for the parts themselves than if you bought a ready-made device.

However, if you buy an oscilloscope for a dozen or several dozen thousand zlotys, the replacement of the motherboard for a few thousand zlotys is not impressive.

tplewa wrote:

Rather, no one is playing burying and exchanging elements on the plate ...

Of course, people are playing it, but not if the problem concerns a device worth PLN 1000. Unless for themselves, when they have nothing better to do (which happens rarely in those who have the knowledge and tools to do such things).

@ Artur k.

On the other hand, what I always say, "Poor people, can't afford cheap things because they usually buy twice then"
Personally, I learned it a long time ago and I prefer to collect for branded equipment (even if it is supposed to take two years to collect it).

You know it's not that simple. I myself recently bought an oscilloscope for my home. I also think that a poor man cannot afford cheap things - I could spend 15,000 and buy a Hameg, I can afford it, but why do I need such an oscilloscope at home? After all, this device will never pay me back. For some time now, I haven't been taking the work home anymore, because I wouldn't have had to repair it anyway (especially since I only sleep at home). When I have some free time, I pick my inventions and that's it. Years fly and I don't have that pressure anymore - work is work, and home is home.
So far I bought the oscilloscope in December, and the meter does not even have 50 turns on.
I bought Siglent, I paid less than PLN 3,000 and I would not spend more for this purpose. The company is different, but fortunately that's not my concern. :)

I perfectly understand amateurs and hobbyists. Unfortunately, there is no other option here, either to buy a new Chinese for little money or a used analog. It is definitely not profitable to buy Chinese used digital devices.

@-ArtuR- k.

This is also what I mentioned. Be aware of what we need and sometimes there is no way out. He buys for a hobby and I do not have any money from it, but rather a huge amount of money for this hobby. That's the charm of probably every hobby. Moreover, the stupid order of parts is sometimes a few hundred zlotys - so what to say about the price of the equipment :)

For example, the oscilloscope needed a four-channel with a minimum bandwidth of 100MHz and a minimum sampling rate of 1GSa / s in each channel when working simultaneously. Here, these requirements did not leave much choice.

After a long look at the offers of various manufacturers, it turned out that the Agilent / Keysight infiniivision 3000 series would be optimal ... the price is down, but what to do ...

In the meantime, I bought a recommended Rigol - so as not to sweat on the old Tek that I had, which already drove me crazy sometimes;] Here I can say that it was also a good choice and IMHO if I want to spend 1000 PLN, it is better to get him - there is simply nothing to compare. The same is true, even in much more expensive oscilloscopes, it is difficult to find a competitor.


Now I also need a spectrum analyzer up to 3GHz with a tracking generator ... here is Rigol again - but it's also an expense around 20k zlotys ... I will not push anything better, because the prices there are already such that you can die at the very sight ;)

So anyway, without a long postponement it will not work. Fortunately, I have the luxury that I can use the equipment in the company, but sometimes I also want to sit in the company after hours on private projects, so I slowly put away and buy equipment for home ...

On the other hand, it is also dictated by what a man does, because not every field requires such equipment.

Well, it all depends on who's playing what. I mainly use audio, but sometimes I pick radio stuff and a digital device, so 200MHz is enough for me. In fact, I chose 200MHz only because of the radio. For audio, 25MHz is enough.
But this Siglent is also handicapped, because the bandwidth is 200MHz, but the time base is like the 100MHz model. The effect is that a 200MHz signal takes 7 periods on the screen and cannot be viewed more closely. I sincerely hope that the manufacturer will release a software update one day and this drawback will be eliminated. So far, they fixed the decoder and finally decodes ASCII characters correctly, it was displaying nonsense before.