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Choosing Between Beninca BOB 30 and ETM-01: Double-Leaf Gate Actuators, Quality & Popularity

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  • #1 16514862
    Piotr1.
    Level 14  
    I am thinking of buying double-leaf gate actuators that take up very little space. I found two like the subject that I could possibly "press" at home. I am asking for help in choosing between these two. There are very few opinions on the Internet about them. In the popularity ranking of June 2017, they also practically do not appear. Does this mean they are of poor quality?
    Added after 3 [hours] 39 [minutes]:
    I see that these actuators are really not very popular since there are no orderly answers. All I know is Beninca is an Italian product and ETM-01 is a Chinese product. But being Chinese doesn't necessarily mean it's worse.
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  • #2 16515464
    Fest3r
    Level 14  
    I don't know ETM actuators but I know Beninca actuators very well and I would definitely bet on them. The main difference between them is the power supply of engines, Beninca -230V ETM - 24V.
    BOB 30 will be stronger, it has limit switches on opening and closing, and bob is checked, these cylinders work for several years without problems. Only start capacitors are replaced every 6-8 years.
    The advantage of ETM can be smoother operation and safer (they have an overload system), you can also connect the battery to work in the event of a power outage.
    As for the durability of ETM, I will not say anything.
  • #3 16516682
    Piotr1.
    Level 14  
    Actually, I'm more inclined to Benincy. When choosing this product I have to talk about the topic with my neighbor to move the grid on the common post somewhere about 2 cm towards him. Beninca is 8.8 cm wide and the ETM 6.5 cm wide. ETM should fit in without any modifications to the fence. Hence my reflection. Is it worth getting along with your neighbor and make some modifications in the fence and have a more proven product or leave it as it is and mount ETM?
  • #4 16517062
    Marek J.
    VIP Meritorious for electroda.pl
    Take a look at Aprimatic Raider 2000.
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  • #5 16518388
    Piotr1.
    Level 14  
    Aprimatic Raider 2000 would fit easily without a few opinions about this product. Actually, I didn't find one. How is its strength and quality compared to Beninca? I see that it is also much more expensive than Benincy and only one remote control is included in the set. Is it worth the money? How about the service? The cheapest Aprimatica set I found - PLN 2378
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    #6 16518947
    Marek J.
    VIP Meritorious for electroda.pl
    The low price is unfortunately the basic criteria for choosing most Poles ...
    Hence few opinions. As for quality, this is another "Italian" not yet tainted by Far Eastern austerity programs.
    I haven't installed much (it will be only about 5 sets) in 4 years and for now (knock on unpainted) everything is ok. As for parts and service - I'm not afraid, because Miwi-Urmet (Aprimatic is a member of the Urmet group) I have "at hand"...
  • #7 16520786
    Piotr1.
    Level 14  
    After thoroughly examining the topic, I already know that in my case Beninca falls away. You can choose from either the Aprimatic Raider 2500 (2000 is already discontinued) or ETM-01. Aprimatic is also made in China, which you confirmed with Miwi-Urmet as their main distributor. Now the dilemma between two products made in China, which one to choose? ETM-01 or Aprimatica 100% more expensive. I would be more inclined to the latter because it is longer on the market. Only price scares here and they give only one pilot.
  • #8 16520950
    andrzej lukaszewicz
    Level 41  
    Piotr1. wrote:
    I am thinking of buying double-leaf gate actuators that take up very little space.

    And you can specify what exactly do you mean? Are the posts narrow? How long and heavy is the wing, is there a gate next to it (if the steel post is thin)?
    If the wings are small, I recommend life OP2. Very durable drive and not made in China.
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  • #9 16521092
    Piotr1.
    Level 14  
    Choosing Between Beninca BOB 30 and ETM-01: Double-Leaf Gate Actuators, Quality & Popularity

    I have the situation as in the attached photo. The gate is suspended on 10x10 cm posts. I share one of them with my neighbor and this is a problem. I have exactly 10 cm from the gate's hinge axis to the fence's mesh. Aprimatic Raider 2500 is less than 6 cm wide. With this actuator, the minimum distance from the hinge axis of the gate to the axis of the actuator mounted on the post is only 7 cm. it is often marked with the letter A. in the assembly drawings. With this actuator I am able to achieve this minimum distance. Life OP2 this dimension is probably about 14 cm so too much. As the technical advisor from Nice told me, with such a product installation, of course, I lose the warranty and after half a year of using the gate, the actuator would have to be replaced. To illustrate the situation, let's imagine that we are standing by the fridge at its top and the force used to open the door is much greater than when we stand at an angle. So the actuator must be mounted at an angle to the gate.
  • #10 16521759
    andrzej lukaszewicz
    Level 41  
    You won't mount the actuator in optimal dimensions on such a gate, especially on the left side with the net. The mounting strength and dimensions with different actuators in this particular case will be similar, and the correct operation depends mainly on their durability and strength (and here I am not surprised that modern nice will fall, because it's a lot of rubbish, and the old ones worked after 15 years without failure). It is important to fasten the actuators in such a way that they are always set at an acute angle, not parallel, in relation to the leaf. I have mounted many OP2 servomotors on thinner posts (80mm) and similar light gates have been around for many years, which is why I recommend them.
  • #11 16521912
    Piotr1.
    Level 14  
    So in my situation there is no chance to mount the automation to the gate, which would work for a long time, even as in the case of Raider 2500 I will keep this minimum mounting dimension? Here is mounted OP2 on a narrow post: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v = -ycAo64JDA4 I wonder how long it lasts because the mounting dimensions are rather not preserved.

    Added after 3 [hours] 59 [minutes]:

    I found a servomotor like SOMMER TWIST 200 E. The seat (A) can be 8cm. I thought that if I could get along with my neighbor and make a hole in the net only for the engine that takes the most space, there would be some way out of the situation. Is this product noteworthy? There are few opinions about him, and actually I found one negative. What do you think about this cylinder and the whole idea with a hole in the grid?
  • #12 16622230
    Beldo
    Level 11  
    Buddy, I have 8m cylinders mounted on round posts etm01. So far, they have been working for two years without fail. If you are still interested in the subject, I can send a video of their work.
    greetings
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  • #13 16756329
    Piotr1.
    Level 14  
    Of these two, what would fit in the subject ETM-01. Thank you for the hint. The topic is resolved so I close it.

Topic summary

The discussion revolves around the comparison of two double-leaf gate actuators: Beninca BOB 30 and ETM-01. Users express a preference for Beninca due to its proven durability and performance, noting that it operates on 230V and includes limit switches, while ETM-01 operates on 24V and offers smoother operation with an overload system. Concerns about the popularity and quality of both products arise, with some users suggesting alternatives like Aprimatic Raider 2500. The conversation highlights the importance of installation dimensions and compatibility with existing gate structures, as well as the potential for modifications to accommodate different actuators. Ultimately, the ETM-01 is favored by some users for its compact size, despite concerns about its origin and market presence.
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