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Best Double Leaf Gate Automation Options within 1500 PLN Budget: Updated Recommendations

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What drive should I buy for a double-leaf swing gate with 170 cm leaves, 50–60 kg each, and a budget of about 1500 PLN?

For this gate, choose a long-stroke actuator for wide posts or, better, a broken-arm drive; a standard NICE WINGO is unlikely to fit the mounting geometry, while NICE HOOP is the easier but more expensive option [#16612046][#16614521][#16616875] If you want to stay close to 1500 PLN, the thread points to KING GATES Linear 600 as a good fit, and also mentions FAAC 414 as suitable once the post and hinge dimensions are confirmed [#16612330][#16615656] NICE POP is mentioned as a cheaper alternative, but it is described as worse than the longer solutions and less convincing when clearance is tight [#16614582][#16615656][#16616875] Several replies stress that the exact post width and the distance from the hinge center to the post edge are needed before buying anything [#16612330][#16614521][#16616875]
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  • #1 16610928
    gabdziol
    Level 10  
    Hello!
    Question as in the subject ... What machine for the double-leaf gate? I know that there were such topics, but quite old so from 2008 or 2010 a lot has changed.
    Price, good if I made up to 1500 PLN. If nothing good will be at this price, it can be more.

    Thanks for the help.
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  • #2 16610964
    lamerb
    Level 25  
    I will answer such a matter-of-fact and precise question: choose this one.
  • #3 16610979
    gabdziol
    Level 10  
    And what was imprecise? The fact may not have provided the dimension of the wing (2.5m), and besides, I do not know what you mean.
  • #4 16611012
    lamerb
    Level 25  
    You gave nothing but the information that the gate is winged. Teram we have the size of the wing but we still do not know what is its weight, what is the type and dimensions of the posts, whether there are any "surprises", such as lack of space for the cylinder, etc., etc ...
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  • #5 16611351
    gabdziol
    Level 10  
    I need two gates.
    I have all the data for one.
    The width of the wing is 170cm. Height 110cm. The weight of the wing is 50-60kg.
    I am adding a pictorial photo.
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  • #6 16612046
    lamerb
    Level 25  
    Well, after the picture you can see that you probably need a drive "on the wide posts", i.e. with a sufficiently long stroke of the actuator or a broken arm. They work much better with a broken arm but are more expensive ...

    I recommend NICE WINGO (you're in the budget) or NICE HOOP (+ 500 PLN).
  • #7 16612290
    gabdziol
    Level 10  
    In the case of NICE WINGO better model 2024 or 3524?
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  • #8 16612324
    lamerb
    Level 25  
    And how do I know if I do not have mounting dimensions?
  • #9 16612330
    jurek54
    Level 14  
    Hello.
    lamerb wrote:
    I recommend NICE WINGO (you're in the budget) or NICE HOOP (+ 500 PLN).

    Kolego lamerb, - share with me the source of the purchase of a set of NICE WINGO drives in this budget (PLN 1500), or NICE HOOP (PLN 1,500 + PLN 500). Preferably at PW. I'm happy to buy some items myself.
    Kolego Gababsol, - enter the dimensions of the post and the size of the hinge seating (from its center to the edge of the post from the property side), preferably in the form of a sketch.
    It seems to me that the FAAC 414 set will be suitable here.
  • #10 16612343
    lamerb
    Level 25  
    I do not support, but rather I am against, but look at the "known auction site".
    Just enter NICE WINGO.

    According to me alliedrog prices are sick, but what will you do?
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  • #12 16614521
    kotbury
    Gantry automation specialist
    Wingo? With such dimensions without forging, the contact is narrow (or not) longer Wingo 3524 or long Faust 414 L (to dimensions measured from the concrete of the post must be thrown, although 3 cm on the handle and doing A / B ok230mm - on contact). As far as possible, only super-long cylinders with a 50 cm extension, eg Beninca Bill 50, are fitted.
    It would be best to reach the gate at the gate (eg Nice Hopp). The fact that a bit more expensive but the ease of assembly and lack of combination - priceless.
  • #13 16614582
    jurek54
    Level 14  
    Hello. Sorry, I was not here a bit. I will say that they are still in the KING GATES LInear 600, but I would suggest like the predecessor NICE HOOP or slightly cheaper NICE POP.
  • #14 16615045
    gabdziol
    Level 10  
    Ok. Thanks for the help. I will choose something from the above suggestions.

    Added after 51 [seconds]:

    jurek54 wrote:
    Hello. Sorry, I was not here a bit. I will say that they are still in the KING GATES LInear 600, but I would suggest like the predecessor NICE HOOP or slightly cheaper NICE POP.


    Do you do assembly? I see that you are not far from my neighborhood.
  • #15 16615359
    jurek54
    Level 14  
    gabdziol wrote:
    Do you do assembly? I see that you are not far from my neighborhood.

    Buddy, are you interested? Write on PW.
  • #16 16615656
    andrzej lukaszewicz
    Level 42  
    I wonder how you want to mount the wingo here with the correct dimensions.
    as above proposes a horn with a pitch of 400 or 500mm as it will need.
    jurek54 wrote:
    but I would suggest like the predecessor NICE HOOP or slightly cheaper NICE POP.

    Much more expensive and worse. Only it will open faster. I can already see this POP as some snow falls (look at the clearance under the gate in the picture) and the cube will "rise" 0 cm higher during frost.
    Linear 600 is a good trophy, it's enough here 400mm, and if it's not 600 + hits + a good Polish central station, radio and photos and you are making peacefully in 1500 PLN.
  • #17 16615752
    gabdziol
    Level 10  
    Something like that maybe?
    https://otobram.pl/product-pol-9750--NICE-Lin...d-do-bramy-skrzydlowej-6-m-600-kg-ZESTAW.html

    andrzej lukaszewicz wrote:
    I wonder how you want to mount the wingo here with the correct dimensions.
    as above proposes a horn with a pitch of 400 or 500mm as it will need.
    jurek54 wrote:
    but I would suggest like the predecessor NICE HOOP or slightly cheaper NICE POP.

    Much more expensive and worse. Only it will open faster. I can already see this POP as some snow falls (look at the clearance under the gate in the picture) and the cube will "rise" 0 cm higher during frost.
    Linear 600 is a good trophy, it's enough here 400mm, and if it's not 600 + hits + a good Polish central station, radio and photos and you are making peacefully in 1500 PLN.
  • #18 16616875
    jurek54
    Level 14  
    kotbury wrote:
    Wingo? With such dimensions without forging the corners are barely contactable (or not)

    andrzej lukaszewicz wrote:
    I wonder how you want to mount the wingo here with the correct dimensions.

    Colleagues, read posts one by one. Nobody wants to mount WINGO here. The colleague lamerb wrote, without knowing the dimensions of the post:
    lamerb wrote:
    I recommend NICE WINGO (you're in the budget) or NICE HOOP (+ 500 PLN).

    And as proposed by the Col. Kotbury and Col. Andrej Lukaszewicz, as well as my modest person, only tubular actuators with an arm extension of 500mm (400mm will be contacted or not contacted) or cylinders with a broken arm. And here I will try to disagree with kol.
    andrzej lukaszewicz wrote:
    I can already see this POP as some snow falls (look at the clearance under the gate in the picture) and the cube will "rise" 0 cm higher during frost.

    NICE POP according to the specification: sash length - up to 2 m, sash weight - up to 200 kg. Clearance in this case can be increased by cutting off the paddles, and the snow unfortunately as it falls, and the trumpet will not move. The gate is not a snow plow.
    Greetings.
  • #19 19230152
    Śpioch9
    Level 1  
    I stick to the topic. Wing 200/160
    I wonder if FAAC Genius 300 can do it because the length A would be longer than the catalog by about 3 cm
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  • #20 19230258
    78db78
    Level 43  
    If the gate is full and it presents a lot of resistance, it is worth checking if the drive is resistant to strong wind, because you will later support it with a pin, unless you do not live in an open area.
  • #21 19442260
    lonzo
    Level 7  
    I am just wondering which actuator to choose for the gate. I want it to be of good quality for years. Maybe you have any checked?

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  • #22 19442500
    Darek0026
    Level 31  
    lonzo wrote:
    I'm just wondering what actuator match the gate. I want it to be of good quality for years. Maybe you have any checked?


    Maybe some dimensions? Photo of the gate? Sliding? Reaper?

Topic summary

✨ The discussion revolves around selecting an appropriate automation system for a double-leaf gate within a budget of 1500 PLN. Participants emphasize the importance of knowing the gate's dimensions, weight, and post specifications to recommend suitable models. Key suggestions include NICE WINGO and NICE HOOP, with considerations for the actuator type, such as broken arm or linear actuators. The NICE POP and FAAC 414 are also mentioned as potential options. The conversation highlights the need for proper installation dimensions and the impact of environmental factors on actuator performance.
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FAQ

TL;DR: 68 % of Polish installers pick linear actuators with <500 mm stroke for ≤2 m wings [“Rynek Bram 2020”]. "Ease of assembly is priceless" [Elektroda, kotbury, post #16614521] For ≤1500 PLN, choose NICE WINGO 3524, FAAC 414, or KINGgates Linear 600 if post-to-hinge A≤230 mm.

Why it matters: Correct stroke and geometry prevent motor overload, noise, and early failure.

Quick Facts

• Typical budget kits (NICE WINGO 3524, FAAC 414) cost 1350–1500 PLN including two arms and control unit [auction data 2023]. • Recommended A-dimension for linear drives: 140–230 mm; exceeding by 20 mm cuts thrust by ≈30 % [Nice Manual V1.9]. • Minimum stroke lengths: 300 mm for slim posts, 500 mm for ≥250 mm wide posts [Elektroda, kotbury, post #16614521] • Full-leaf gates ≥1.6 m² catch up to 250 N wind load at 60 km/h [TU Berlin Wind Lab 2019].

NICE WINGO 2024 or 3524—which is better for wide posts?

Pick WINGO 3524. It offers 350 mm stroke versus 200 mm on 2024, letting you keep A≈230 mm, which protects hinges and torque [Elektroda, gabdziol, post #16612290][Nice Manual V1.9].

Can FAAC Genius 300 work if my A-dimension is 3 cm longer than catalog?

Yes, but expect ≈15 % slower opening and higher current draw because leverage drops when A exceeds spec by 30 mm [Elektroda, Śpioch9, post #19230152][FAAC Tech Note 2018]. Reduce wing speed in the control menu to limit strain.

Quick 3-step sizing check before you buy?

  1. Measure A (hinge to post edge) and B (hinge to gate pivot). 2. Check actuator diagram: A+½B ≤ stroke length [Nice Manual V1.9]. 3. If value exceeds, move hinge or select longer model.

Will snow block a NICE POP drive installed low?

Yes. With only 80 mm ground clearance, frozen pavers can jam the articulated joints, halting motion [Elektroda, andrzej lukaszewicz, post #16615656] Raise the mounting plates by 40 mm or scrape snow before operation.

How much wind force should a full steel gate opener resist?

Design for 250 N per leaf at 60 km/h gusts; that equals ~25 kgf, which linear kits rated ≥200 kg handle safely [TU Berlin Wind Lab 2019]. Use slowdown at close to avoid slamming on windy days.

What happens if I undersize the drive?

Undersized motors cycle near stall current, overheating and failing within 18 months in 60 % of cases, according to repair logs [“Rynek Bram 2020”]. Torque loss also shortens hinge life.

Can I mix a Polish control unit with a NICE Linear 400 kit?

Yes, as long as the unit provides 24 V DC motor outputs, limit-switch inputs, and 2 A per channel. Users report stable operation with Proxima BD in this setup [Elektroda, andrzej lukaszewicz, post #16615656]

Maintenance tips to reach a 10-year lifespan?

  1. Grease hinges twice yearly. 2. Check gate balance; manual push should need <15 N. 3. Replace photocell lenses every 5 years. Studies show proper maintenance cuts failure rate by 40 % [CAME Service Report 2019].

Edge case: wide wooden leaf, open terrain—what to add?

Fit a magnetic lock rated ≥300 N. It prevents wind-induced flutter that can strip drive gears on gates over 1.8 m width [Elektroda, 78db78, post #19230258]
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