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Implications of Overfilled Oil in Opel Astra G 1.6 16V XEL Engine

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  • #1 16522420
    holo0725
    Level 6  
    Hello. I was changing the filter oil yesterday evening, the mechanic was pouring oil on me and immediately checked the condition on the dipstick, I did not pay much attention to it, then I put the bottle in my car and went home. Today I wanted to drive to the store, I took a bottle of oil to put it in the trunk, and there much less oil than I thought it would be:
    Implications of Overfilled Oil in Opel Astra G 1.6 16V XEL Engine

    About 1/4 - 1/5 liter, about four. So it comes out that he poured about 3.8 liters. The XEL engine recommended in the manual is 3-3,5 liters max, so I was always topping up, with a 5 liter bottle left 1.5 liters.

    I checked the bayonet:
    Implications of Overfilled Oil in Opel Astra G 1.6 16V XEL Engine
    As you can see the whole tip in the oil, I always thought that it should fit inside this middle part.

    Knowing this engine is an excess and so will drink in 2 months ...
    Seriously speaking, I do not know what now, I did not go anywhere, although yesterday returning from the workshop, I still did 15 km and nothing suspicious happened.
    Over the weekend closed, I do not know whether to ride it until Monday and call to drop the excess, if I can ride and nothing will happen (these ~ 0.3 liters is probably not some huge overflow).
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  • #2 16522427
    Barton-wlkp
    Level 21  
    Take the syringe with the tube in place and pull the excess out of the bayonet hole.
    There is a risk of damaging the sealants on the shaft.
  • #3 16522428
    grala1
    VAG group specialist
    He will be fine.
    Ride and do not worry.
    What are the sealants supposed to be damaged from?
  • #4 16522439
    Barton-wlkp
    Level 21  
    Are you saying that the manufacturer has defined MIN and MAX oil levels for no reason?
  • #5 16522445
    ociz
    VIP Meritorious for electroda.pl
    Too high oil level is dangerous at high speed. From the German autobahn, not one of them so came down on the trailer with the engine freshly replaced after replacing the oil.
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  • #6 16522501
    holo0725
    Level 6  
    I do not have a syringe or a hose, and faster than to go somewhere to buy it will drive there and let them improve.
    If you say that driving with this level may end badly.
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  • #7 16522527
    grala1
    VAG group specialist
    300ml will not hurt anything.
    Looking at the photo of the bayonet there is much more than 0.5l, I would say that 1l more. Earlier, I wrote from the phone and based on what is written and not shown in the pictures.
    You have to assume that there is an oil filter in which oil also enters, so you can not assume that it goes exactly for example, 3.5l.

    Barton-wlkp wrote:
    Are you saying that the manufacturer has defined MIN and MAX oil levels for no reason?

    In no way is this confirmation of your theory.

    Of course, a lot more than the norm is an exaggeration, but do not fall into paranoia.

    I read it again exactly. The author is misleading. The engine has about 4.8 liters of oil and not 3.8 (as he wrote) which would agree with what I wrote above, which is a liter more.
    Here, it really should have been dropped.
  • #8 16522535
    Barton-wlkp
    Level 21  
    With the filter comes 3.5 liters assuming that all the oil has been drained and nothing has been left.
    There is a lot of oil here.
  • #9 16522557
    holo0725
    Level 6  
    grala1 wrote:
    The author is misleading. The engine has about 4.8 liters of oil and not 3.8 (as he wrote) which would agree with what I wrote above, which is a liter more.
    Here, it really should have been dropped.


    How do I mislead? Apparently you were not right to write me to drive, and now you're putting it on me?

    Since I wrote:
    About 1/4 - 1/5 liter, about four. So it comes out that he poured about 3.8 liters.
    We subtract 0.2 from 4 and exit 3.8, unless magically appeared a liter.
  • #10 16522577
    grala1
    VAG group specialist
    I'm sorry my mistake!!!
    Inaccurate reading comes out. I did not notice that you wrote from four .
    Only that when looking at the bayonet there is a liter of oil more (I think that the yellow arrow means the current level).
    I still think that 0.3l will not happen.
    You can report my post to the moderator if you think it is incorrect.
    I think that in the engine you have a liter of oil more and maybe more and not 0.3l.
    Probably the mechanic did not let the whole thing down - it would confirm what you wrote about previous exchanges that it was ok.
    Unless the oil filter was old.
    Once again, I apologize for the confusion caused by my inaccurate reading and writing untruths about your speech.
    The moderator can remove my statements due to inaccurate reading that caused chaos here.



    Moderated By T5:

    The trick is to admit to the error.
    Posts will not be deleted.

  • #11 16522592
    gigit
    Level 12  
    What a problem, you did it in the workshop, you paid for a service that was badly made. It's best to go and improve - so much in the subject.
    greetings
  • #12 16522611
    holo0725
    Level 6  
    You are not reading again. There is no old filter, in the first sentence it is written that I exchanged oil with a filter (he dialed the old man next to me and turned on a new one, it was not the first visit to them and they always did everything ok).

    I will not report to the moderator, but thanks for such advice, how do you respond first without looking at photos, then another few posts without even reading exactly what is written.
    It's good that others have called, but I thought that it is too much oil (only that this astrophone bay has strange scales and I did not know if the whole mountain does not mean a small surplus), so I asked because otherwise I would drive.
    Apparently, they did not drain the old oil from half a liter, which is strange, the car took 15 minutes.

    Now, can someone tell me whether to go to them on Monday (about 5 km) or even not to risk so much and shop around looking for a syringe and a hose?
  • #13 16522614
    Barton-wlkp
    Level 21  
    gigit wrote:
    ... you have paid for a service that was badly made. It's best to go and improve ...

    Do not advise anything that may harm you.
    If the level is too high then you should not go to the mechanic but call him to improve the work.
    Driving to the mechanic can lead to damage.

    Syringe for pennies in a pharmacy. A hose in every parabriding supermarket.
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  • #14 16522680
    jerry1960
    Level 36  
    There is about one liter of oil between min and max. Watching your bayonet comes out of being poured about a liter. Pull out with a syringe and a hose as colleagues write above.
  • #15 16522715
    gigit
    Level 12  
    Barton-wlkp wrote:
    gigit wrote:
    ... you have paid for a service that was badly made. It's best to go and improve ...

    Do not advise anything that may harm you.
    If the level is too high then you should not go to the mechanic but call him to improve the work.
    Driving to the mechanic can lead to damage.

    Syringe for pennies in a pharmacy. A hose in every parabriding supermarket.


    The mechanic's fault is rather his problem in the event of failure, since he has arrived from the workshop and will reach it.
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    #16 16522732
    ociz
    VIP Meritorious for electroda.pl
    Will reach. So just do not shake too much. The point is that when the crankshaft reaches the oil it so before it splashes on the walls of the cylinders that the rings can not keep up, and when it starts pulling it through the rings it will not end until the bowl is empty. But such things happen only on the highways and you can see a cloud of smoke behind the car.
  • #17 16522771
    Barton-wlkp
    Level 21  
    gigit wrote:
    The mechanic's wine is rather his problem in case of failure

    Do you know what is the victim's contribution to increasing the damage?
    If not, look at art. 362 KC.
    In addition, you are doing legal forum with the forum.

    To the inquirer:
    Remove excess oil so that the condition of the vehicle on level ground is between MIN and MAX.
    Considering that this XEL is rather closer to MAX because it will go down anyway.
  • #18 16522889
    holo0725
    Level 6  
    If the victim contributes consciously to increasing the damage in order to obtain higher compensation, the article given in this situation does not apply. If, for example, an older woman who gave the car to the service, did it wrong (eg they cheated it and did not exchange the oil only counted the exchange), she was oblivious to it and the engine was damaged, do you think it's part of the fault? Or if the damage occurred just after leaving on the way back from the service, then what also part of the fault of the victim, when he did not even have the opportunity to check the work done? Nonsense.

    Anyway, there is nothing to change the subject.
    On Monday I will call the mechanic, I will say what and how and decide whether I should drive (and then there is their responsibility) or send someone with a syringe, I do not want to rub it myself.
    Thanks for the answers, the topic ended.
  • #19 16523837
    robokop
    VIP Meritorious for electroda.pl
    Gentlemen, do not make eggs. A liter of oil will do no more harm, Ecotec will quickly lead to a proper state. So that the oil does not splash, break down the crankshaft, in the bowl there is a tin diaphragm that obscures the oil mirror. Even with a liter above the level, the oil level will not reach above it - the volume of the bowl itself is from good 6-7 liters. I see no reason to do anything about it. And the phenomenon that Ociz writes about is usually in diesel with pouring injectors - when the oil finally stops to fit into the bowl and is pushed out by the dit of the engine. The same happened in old gasoline, with mechanical diaphragm fuel pumps.

Topic summary

The discussion revolves around the implications of overfilling oil in an Opel Astra G 1.6 16V XEL engine. The original poster discovered that the mechanic had poured approximately 3.8 liters of oil, exceeding the recommended maximum of 3.5 liters. Concerns were raised about potential damage from excessive oil, particularly at high speeds, as it could lead to oil splashing onto the crankshaft and causing engine issues. Various suggestions were made, including using a syringe to remove excess oil or returning to the mechanic for correction. Some participants argued that a small overfill might not cause immediate harm, while others emphasized the importance of maintaining oil levels between the MIN and MAX indicators on the dipstick. The conversation concluded with the poster deciding to contact the mechanic for further advice.
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