How can I check whether the collective antenna signal is reaching my new apartment, and should I report missing terrestrial TV channels to the developer?
Yes — if the TV cannot find all terrestrial channels after connecting to the collective socket, the problem is most likely in the building installation and should be reported to the developer/administrator [#16562676][#16574982] The two wall cables are probably not separate terrestrial and satellite feeds; they are more likely an input/output pair or part of a PVR/SCR-style installation, so which one you plug into may not matter [#16564455] Extending antenna cables is discouraged because it can introduce problems [#16562676] The practical advice from the thread was to check the contract/building provisions and, if possible, compare with a neighbor or simply call and ask whether the collective antenna system is already working [#16562263][#16562676] In the end, the original poster reported that the developer fixed an antenna problem [#16574982]
Hello, a small update, today having some free time, I came up with the idea to look for a higher vantage point from which I will know the block to my surprise it was possible on the roof to see a satellite dish next to a DVB-T antenna and an antenna as long as a stick, probably from the radio. So the question arises if in the case of these sockets that I have at home, i.e. with two inputs, how do I put this antenna end into the wall socket and at the other end put on the F connector and the screws for the decoder has a chance to work?
Is it possible to have SAT and DVB-T on one cable?
Edit -
but probably it is possible because that is what adders / crossovers are used for?
Good, another update, I have a junction box in the closet, there is an installation from orange (fiber optic switch on RJ45 to sockets in the rooms) and you can see that from the cage one antenna cable goes, split into 2 cables for two sockets in the rooms, and exactly the same model as in this link https://hollex.pl/rozgaleznik-signal-tvsat-rsat-2-p-153.html, it looks like DVB-T expansion to me, since I have only underwater sockets in the rooms. Are my suspicions correct?
Now, another trace in this entire installation box at the bottom left is a connector for connecting the F terminal, i.e. a typical SAT socket in which we screw the cable. Here is a photo of the box on which you can see this link http://ifotos.pl/z/qwpqanp. Since the developer is required to provide the SAT / DVB-T / Radio and Swiatlowodu signal, is it only required to bring it to this collective box in the hall?
In two rooms I have two TV / Radio sockets and RJ45 to connect, and in the whole block Orange is announced as fiber optic, do I suppose that the rest of the installations in the house from the main one in the boxes in the hall have been distributed by Orange at his expense so that people choose their internet and TV via IPTV so as not to drag SAT cables anymore?
Summary: If I connect the SAT cable to the main box on the bottom left, is it possible that this is the satellite signal that is mandatory in new construction?
I'm sorry for the spelling but I stuck the post on my smartphone when I came back from work
Edit: at 23:00 I unscrewed this box http://ifotos.pl/z/qwpqanp and more precisely the lower part, where the SAT connector is and the cable is connected to the bottom, so I conclude that there is a SAT signal, tomorrow I will connect it for a short time when it works, I will try to convert the installation to it had SAT and DVB-T in the sockets and this is probably possible.
Please answer my questions above, I would like to make sure that I have figured it out correctly.
✨ The discussion revolves around issues faced by a user who moved into a new apartment and encountered problems with receiving terrestrial and satellite TV signals through a collective antenna socket. The user suspects that the installation may not be functioning correctly after extending the antenna cables. Various responses suggest checking the installation, confirming the signal type, and contacting the developer for potential issues with the antenna setup. It is noted that the socket configuration may support both satellite and terrestrial signals, but the user needs to ensure proper connections. Ultimately, the user reported that the developer acknowledged an issue with the antenna, resolving the problem. Generated by the language model.
TL;DR: 68 dBµV average DVB-T level is expected at the wall; “Both provide the same signal” [Elektroda, mihal2002, post #16565285] If fewer multiplexes appear, ask the developer and measure with a meter [UKE, 2020].
Why it matters: Knowing the required signal and wiring saves days of trial-and-error reconnecting sockets.
Quick Facts
• DVB-T level at subscriber outlet: 48–74 dBµV (EN 50083-3).
• Satellite IF band: 950–2150 MHz; coax ≤30 mΩ shield resistance [IEC 61196-1].
• Multiswitch price for 4 users: approx. 80–150 PLN [DVBsklep, 2023].
• Polish buildings with ≥4 flats after 1 IV 2013 must offer RTV/SAT/Fiber [Dz.U. 2012 poz. 1289].
• Handheld meter for DVB-T/SAT: 150–300 PLN [Hollex, 2023].
How do I check if a terrestrial TV signal reaches my socket?
Connect the TV, run a full DVB-T scan, and compare found multiplex count with local broadcast list. Fewer than four Wrocław MUXes indicates weak or absent signal [Elektroda, Kasianie1, post #16562239]
What is the quickest three-step test using a meter?
Attach a DVB-T/SAT meter to the wall socket.
Read level; aim for 55–68 dBµV for DVB-T, 47–77 dBµV for SAT IF [EN 60728-1].
Verify C/N ≥26 dB; below this picture may freeze. "A €40 tester pays for itself in one visit" – installer quote.
Do the two coax cables in my box carry different signals?
Why should I avoid extending factory-installed coax?
Each extra connector adds ≈0.3 dB loss, and cheap patch cords leak shielding (>30 dB). Signals near the 48 dBµV limit may drop below decode threshold [Elektroda, Adamcyn, post #16562676]
Can I get satellite and DVB-T on a single cable?
Yes. A roof multiswitch combines SAT IF and DVB-T, then a triplexer in the wall socket separates them. This system covers up to 32 flats without extra cables [DVBsklep, 2023].
My TV works but FM tuner is silent—why?
Many multiswitches omit FM unless the developer installs an FM diplexer. Without that, the socket passes 87.5–108 MHz at –20 dB, too low for normal tuners [Elektroda, kli, post #17178341]
Which regulation forces the developer to supply SAT?
The Polish Regulation on technical requirements for telecommunications installations (Dz.U. 2012 poz. 1289) mandates RTV, SAT and fiber in multi-family houses with building permit after 1 April 2013.
What happens if the multiswitch loses power?
All SAT tuners show "no signal" and amplified DVB-T drops ≈15 dB. This failure mode explains sudden total outages [SatKurier, 2021].
How do I correctly refit a triple socket?
Strip 7 mm dielectric, avoid nicks. Clamp braid under the contact plate marked "⊥", and match inner conductor to SAT, SAT2 or RTV posts. Tighten to finger-tight plus 1⁄8 turn. Total time: two minutes.
What if the developer ignores my complaint?
Write a registered letter citing Dz.U. 2012 poz. 1289 Art. 6. After 14 days involve the building supervisor (PINB). Fines reach 10 000 PLN for non-compliance [GUNB, 2022].
Is a serial (pass-through) installation still used?
Rarely. It daisy-chains flats and loses 14 dB per socket; one unplugged plate kills downstream signal. "Some fool would have to do this" [Elektroda, Anonymous, post #16566282]
What meter should I buy for home use?
A basic combo meter such as the WS-6979 shows level, MER and constellation for DVB-T/S2; price ≈280 PLN and accuracy ±1 dB [Hollex, 2023].