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Opel Astra G 1999r - Steering wheel vibrations at higher speeds (not discs)

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  • #1 16589906
    pawelhd2003
    Level 10  
    Hello,
    the problem concerns the Opel Astra, but it may also apply to many other cars with this type of suspension.

    At a speed of 25 km / h you can hear quiet vibrations 2x / s (probably near the left side, near the wheel), at this time no vibrations on the steering wheel. These vibrations resemble the runout of an unbalanced wheel.

    At speeds above 100 km / h, strong vibrations are transferred to the steering wheel, with increasing speed they are slightly larger, but generally at a similar level. Of course, then the vibrations can no longer be heard, but they can simply be drowned out.

    With quick and short movements of the left-right steering wheel, you can hear a slight knock on the turned off and on the engine. (However, this knocking was also before the appearance of the above mentioned vibrations and vibrations)

    Discs + pads new. Suspension checked in two stations, rods, connectors, pins, etc., no defects found. The steering gear has no oil leaks, no visible defects cover. Wheels balanced 3 times, perfect condition. Also transferred from another car, the problem does not occur. When starting on twisted wheels, I did not notice a symptom of worn joints, although I always have a habit to move gently in such a wheel position.

    When shifted into idle gear, the vibrations do not subside. Do not feel any bastards or knocks when moving off. When braking heavy vibrations, the car brakes smoothly.

    My initial diagnosis is the driveshaft, more precisely the inner joint.

    Please help what you think, maybe someone had a similar problem.

    The mechanic is any other version, and after the last three repairs and money thrown down the drain for replacing the working parts, I find that it is better to discuss on the forum than ask "experts".

    I am asking for answers related only to the topic and not to deviate from it, because surely many other people who have such a problem will use your help.
    Let us not end the discussion that begins with the topic of transmission of vibrations to the steering wheel in a polemic about fuel quality at various stations.
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  • #2 16589971
    Anonymous
    Anonymous  
  • #3 16590014
    Michał_74
    Level 33  
    External joints to be checked. In the Kia Sportage 4x4, I had vibrations of about 80 km / h and various ailments at 120-140 km / h. It fell on the right outer joint. Visual inspection showed nothing but after the exchange it stopped.
    How did I come to this? The old mechanic advised me that if the joints are collapsed but not diagnosed, add grease to them. Felerny will throw him after several dozen kilometers.
    greetings
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  • #4 16590016
    Hajna
    Level 24  
    If you have aluminum rims and plastic bushings, center the wheel on the hub, replace the centering bushings.
  • #5 16590122
    pawelhd2003
    Level 10  
    Kurtka na wacia wrote:
    pawelhd2003 wrote:
    Discs + pads new
    When driving without braking, the brake system does not matter. Is the rim-hub connection clean?


    With the disc curve, even without braking, there may be vibrations at higher speeds, but to the point, because such a mention does not help in anything.
    Yes, everything cleaned thoroughly. The problem is more complex, the basics such as cleaning, balancing, etc., are taken care of before assembly.

    Added after 2 [minutes]:

    Michał_74 wrote:
    How did I come to this? The old mechanic advised me that if the joints are collapsed but not diagnosed, add grease to them. Felerny will throw him after several dozen kilometers.


    Thanks for the advice, I will definitely check this way.

    Added after 3 [minutes]:

    Hajna wrote:
    If you have aluminum rims and plastic bushings, center the wheel on the hub, replace the centering bushings.


    As I mentioned above, the basics are taken care of. I also mentioned that the wheels from another car were screwed on, in which there is no problem. Also the original rims and a spare wheel are used, where the hole is factory-sized.
    PS The centering rings are new, but replaced by the way.

    Added after 19 [hours] 8 [minutes]:

    Or maybe someone else had such a problem or knows what could be the reason?
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  • #6 16591888
    rafivr1
    Level 2  
    Hello
    sometimes it happens that the wire in the tire breaks and breaks so much that you can't see it
    it can also be the cause of your vibration
  • #7 16591930
    sk700
    Level 31  
    rafivr1 wrote:
    sometimes it happens that the wire in the tire breaks and breaks so much that you can't see it
    it can also be the cause of your vibration
    Yes, the wires broke simultaneously in three sets of wheels. If you do not have time to read the entire thread, do not litter such posts.
    I also put on the joints. Are these vibrations transferred to the body? How long ago did they appear (over time and distance) and do they get worse over time?
    Shooting while shooting can be shock absorber bearings, one person turns the steering wheel and the other holds his hand on the cup. If he feels the vibrations, you know what and how.
  • #8 16592433
    Jackall
    Level 27  
    I bet on internal joints. Disassemble, disassemble for thorough washing of old grease. Verifying a clean joint is a piece of cake, and if they're ok, it's a new lubricant and reassembly.
  • #9 16594281
    Michał_74
    Level 33  
    Out of curiosity, I will also ask on the rubbers in the joints, do you have such banded bands - original ones intended for this? Because I have already seen hose clamps tightened with a screwdriver, they are not suitable for this and also cause vibrations.
  • #10 16607533
    lookashECL
    Level 14  
    Hubs measured with vigilance?
    Although it smells like an inner joint.
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  • #11 16607603
    mod22
    Level 28  
    Check the driveshaft as it may be slightly curved.
  • #12 16632267
    pawelhd2003
    Level 10  
    sk700 wrote:
    Are these vibrations transmitted to the body? How long ago did they appear (over time and distance) and do they get worse over time?


    Yes, they are transferred to the body. The defect revealed several thousand. km earlier and it seems to me that it grew. I do not remember exactly, because I have been driving very little lately, and after visiting the mechanics (to no avail) it all stretches over time.

    sk700 wrote:
    Shooting while shooting can be shock absorber bearings

    Upper fixings set new.

    Jackall wrote:
    Verifying a clean wrist is easy

    I have never repaired / replaced inner joints. Can you guide how you can visually verify a clean joint that it is defective?

    Michał_74 wrote:
    do you have such tapes - original for this purpose?

    Yes, they are original, I was also paying attention to that.

    lookashECL wrote:
    Hubs measured with vigilance?

    Unfortunately, no, although then the vibrations would not be transferred to the disc, and thus to uneven braking?

    mod22 wrote:
    Check the driveshaft as it may be slightly curved.

    Check or replace?

    Thanks for the answers and if anyone else has any suggestions, please do not hesitate to comment. I will deal with the matter soon and I will definitely let you know what I have replaced and whether it worked.
  • #13 16634318
    Jackall
    Level 27  
    I wash the joints while replacing a broken rubber cover. Generally, there should be no pitting, chipping or other material losses on the mating surfaces. Nothing else can happen to the joint, ie I have never seen a crooked one. The car can shake if the joints have too much resistance (e.g. lack or old dry grease) or when they are worn, the internal ones do not usually hear as well as the external ones, which characteristically swallow.

Topic summary

The discussion revolves around steering wheel vibrations experienced in a 1999 Opel Astra G at higher speeds, particularly above 100 km/h. The user describes initial low-frequency vibrations at 25 km/h, which escalate into stronger vibrations at higher speeds, despite having new brake discs and pads, and a thoroughly checked suspension system. Various suggestions are made, including checking the rim-hub connection, inspecting external and internal joints, and ensuring proper centering of aluminum rims. The possibility of broken wires in tires and issues with the driveshaft are also mentioned. The user confirms that vibrations are transferred to the body and expresses a need for guidance on visually inspecting inner joints for defects.
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