Configuring Home Monitoring System with GANVIS, Holdoor, RTX Cameras and ONVIF Protocol

Hello
He writes to everyone for help because I have already given up today.
It's about "completing", putting together my amateur home monitoring.
I will write in a moment something more what it looks like but first I will present the problem.
I have 4 IP cameras, WiFi, P2P with this one has no WiFi is ONVIF. Unfortunately, monitoring is a cluster of cameras from 3 different companies (Chinese). Cameras were bought at different intervals, so maybe my mistake is the result. There would be one company, one soft and zero problems.
One camera is newly bought: GANVIS GV-T553F-SD is a 360 degree 5Mp ONVIF P2P, IP camera connected to my router with a twisted pair cable. The other cameras are two Holdoor bullet 2Mp WiFi, P2P, IP cameras with ONVIF protocol. Finally, the most troublesome camera and the oldest: PTZ camera with RTX 1Mp also WiFi, P2P. All cameras support and have built-in Samsung SDHC cards class 10 and 32G.

This is where the problem begins. We know how any company that has its cameras gives its cameras soft. I need one that will see all of these cameras and was sufficiently developed for me to use motion detection and save video on the camera's SD card. That's it, that's all because every soft I have for cameras can see either only the camera from which the soft comes or one of my 4 cameras additionally; /
The best soft joined the company from the GANVIS GV-T553F-SD camera is very powerful it detects motion goes to set up motion detection windows, saves image or pictures on the card of this SUPE camera ... only with detects cameras in ONVIF system and I need WiFi. Two cameras can pull cables, unfortunately RTX rotary and one from Holdoor are on the farmhouse and I can't pull the cable because I have all plastered buildings and paving stones; /

The option remains to look for another program. I found a free IP Camera Viever 4 and surprisingly detects 3 cameras (except the rotary RTX) super image quality only no motion detection and recording to SD card
Then I installed the free iSPY and it is GREAT it is a little fun to configure, but I was able to connect with 3 cameras except rotatable RTX (but more on that later). Everything is beautifully detecting motion and recording .. but unfortunately from what I see you can only record the image to the selected track on the PC; / It's a pity but it also falls off because I can't have a computer attached to record and I wish I would waste about 100GB from disk for images. ISPY was the only program that detected 4 of my cameras. It is true that only 3 fired but it is a matter of my setting. iSPY has a specific camera search mode because it looks for protocols for a given IP and port. For my RTX camera, surprisingly, it detects two one for port 80 and the other for 8080. Unfortunately, when I select any port the program still scans I see that some protocols are being read but the list is empty (in other cameras the protocols were displayed I marked the one with the note WiFi and the camera was flashing). One thing in the program also rejected me a bit was the quality of the recorded videos and the image itself in the preview. Cameras are 5Mp, 2Mp and 1Mp and the images were of poor quality.

As I have already explained, I require the software to see all my cameras, have motion detection options and save movies to an SD card ... here a huge BEGGING IN YOUR DIRECTION OF FRIENDS AND FRIENDS, do you know any soft that can be paid and would it be a game worth the candle?

I will also add that on my smartphone I have paid tinyCAM PRO applications and, amazingly, I was able to connect with all 4 cameras . As you can see, the network is on WiFi and it is also a bit limping because despite the fact that I have a fiber optic connection to the router and the WiFi network I have three TP TL-WA850RE amplifiers reinforced, despite covering the whole house and the yard, cameras often break the connection. Testing the quality of the network with my smart phone on each camera I have about 3 "lines" of signal strength ... same on amplifiers ...
As a last resort, I'm already starting to combine or is it better to buy some image recorder with the WiFi option? Have peace of mind with soft because I will have one in the recorder, as well as the option of recording to the internal HDD of the recorder without playing with the option of recording to SD. Only I'm green here and I have no idea what it is used for and whether it is worth the money and time.

I look forward to heated discussions and helpful comments ... thanks in advance

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Welcome back.
I see that there are no people willing to discuss and help, maybe this is the information overload
I read a little, watched a little and I am 95% sure that I will rather buy a digital recorder.
1. I will not have to worry about ripping movies to SD cards because there will be one HDD, this will exclude downloading movies from each camera and using different programs for it
2. One soft so is added to the recorder so it should be better than free and thus more likely to detect my cameras.
3. Soft from the recorder has motion detection options
4. The recorder will have its fixed IP will help me with port forwarding ... one is enough for the recorder and not 4 for each camera.

Referring to the problem with my RTX camera with the PTZ system, I decided to sell it and buy a 2Mp fisheye tested, i.e. the 360 image and not playing with the operator. The camera still causes me trouble detecting by programs and PTZ itself is also not comfortable.



I would like to ask for some comment or help.

It seems to me that you complicate it all, but maybe that's just my impression.

Albatun wrote:

I will not have to worry about ripping movies to SD cards because there will be one HDD, this will exclude ripping movies from each camera and using different programs for it

It depends how often you have to rip these recordings - maybe it's worth considering this situation.

Albatun wrote:

One soft so is added to the recorder so it should be better than free and thus more likely to detect my cameras.

I wouldn't be so sure about that

Albatun wrote:

1.
https://pl.aliexpress.com/item/Hikvision-NVR-...lgo_pvid=a99afbeb-5988-4da1-abdb-0b014a4e61fa

such a small combo has a lot of options has RJ45 inputs so ONVIF cameras after the cable will certainly work only with WiFi or can this recorder be equipped with an additional WiFi module via USB?

And how do you install soft to the WiFi module in the recorder?

Albatun wrote:

2.
https://pl.aliexpress.com/item/8CH-AHD-960P-D...lgo_pvid=a99afbeb-5988-4da1-abdb-0b014a4e61fa

as above but only here the WiFi option can probably be solved with the help of a USB module but I do not know what about cameras because of twisted pair?

At first glance this is an HD analog - not useful for you

Albatun wrote:

my favorite probably has what I am looking for Rj45 twisted pair input so cameras will be visible on the cable, the website writes about support for WiFi and 3G via WiFi module so WiFi IP cameras should also be visible, cloud option, motion detection etc. I am a bit worried about dynamic IP; /

Theoretically, it has everything, you can solve dynamic IP in the router.

Albatun wrote:

Once from the camera by twisted pair they connected directly to the recorder and once from the camera with the WiFi option connected to the WiFi router and the router by twisted pair to the recorder ...

This connection with a WiFi router seems to make the most sense to me.

To sum up: in my opinion, WiFi as a transmission medium is uncertain at best, connecting devices from different manufacturers after ONVIF is asking for trouble and motion detection is possible only as a function of the recorder and not the camera. Personally, I would choose the 4-channel recorder available on our market in this amount but first tested its possibilities.

Thanks for your interest in the topic.
It gets a little complicated, but that's why I have already combined differently and either the program did not have the option of detecting motion and I do not want the camera to record continuously..or the cameras were not detected all or again there was no option to rip to the SD card. I don't really want to go to each camera separately every time I want to view the recorded movies.
As I see, we agree on the recorder but why you write to take 4 channels. I have 4 cameras, but in the future, if I ever needed a 5 camera, would I have a spare and change the recorder?
What to detect motion if all my cameras have options then in the recorder how is this option should everything work?
Do you recommend something else to me?

yes now I read what you write think about the recorder such i7-N0608VH. I installed them and I will say that they are not from the start. it has all the functions you describe. I am writing about this because I saw that someone at olx had it on sale for reasonable money.

Fact price great on olx someone has for 339 but:
I can't see POE inputs and I have to connect 2 cameras with twisted pair
I don't see any mention of cooperation and support for WiFi, but unfortunately my two cameras have to connect via WiFi because the cable option is out.
The recorder is nice but what about the mobile device - preview on the smartphone? Nothing writes about the P2P option or the cloud.

You don't have wi fi in the router? You connect the recorder with either a switch or a router (AP). This recorder has a p2p. if not I will give FW.

I do not want to play in the AP or switch because I already did it at the beginning when I wanted to extend the WiFi network. I'm still looking for at the moment. All in all, a used recorder is not a silly idea I want to have the simplest connection possible: cameras connect to the NVR with a cable and those that cannot via WiFi and the NVR connects to the router. Then there was the port forwarding option OR if there was a P2P option the problem would disappear and the cameras would finally be visible outside and this was my initial plan when I set up the monitoring. Then everything went uphill and the problem is like I described earlier and I think the recorder will solve some of these problems for me

Albatun wrote:

I do not want to play in the AP or switch because I already did it at the beginning when I wanted to extend the WiFi network

Not the way. Has a friend written how to do it correctly. You just have to sit down a little over the subject and once, and everything is well set up. And yes, I have the impression that my friend escapes from the rain under the gutter. The second issue is the recorder itself. The question is whether in a colleague's case a better solution would be an old computer noisy called the server and software that, if it does not work, can always be replaced.

Albatun wrote:

I see that there are no people willing to discuss and help, maybe this is the information overload

Or maybe users have already seen many such topics .....

suworow wrote:

Not the way. Has a friend written how to do it correctly. You just have to sit down a little over the subject and once, and everything is well set up. And yes, I have the impression that my friend escapes from the rain under the gutter. The second issue is the recorder itself. The question is whether in a colleague's case a better solution would be an old computer noisy called the server and software that, if it does not work, can always be replaced.

why are you pushing him on the server? the author of the topic cannot cope with this and nvr will be easier to use and configure for him. As for the server, I'm negative about installations below 60 cameras.

I do not push, but I give it to consideration.

Exactly. I do not want to push into an additional server ... clutter and play in its configuration for 4 cameras. In the future there may be one, but at the moment these 4 cameras monitor the entire bypass, garage and entrances to the house and that's all. I care about comfortable viewing of recordings. I need detection because most cameras, i.e. 3, monitor the area of the street where cars often drive and people walk. With motion detection and the best area detection I would eliminate some areas and hence the camera would not record 200 videos a day for me; /
The premise is a simple preview for 4 cameras and when I'm not using a computer they are supposed to rip movies to their SD card or here is probably the easiest way to use NVR to disk. If necessary, I go to one disk and browse the recorded movies. When the HDD space is exhausted, the movies are overwritten.
The problem arose from the variety of software that hardly anyone sees all 4 cameras. Those that saw or had no motion detection function or had to be turned on all the time to rip movies on a computer instead of HDD.
I was thinking about NVR because I never had to deal with it. Seeing his cool options, I began to convince myself of this idea. NVR has what it wants to record in one place, I do not need to have a computer attached, movies are ripped in one place, there is one soft for all cameras. NVR has more options and possibilities than the soft data given for a given camera.
Here was a request to let me know if I'm going in the right direction, what problems can I encounter, what NVR should I choose and what to look for?

In your case it is important that cameras can be added after the onvif protocol. A colleague above gave you a model of the recorder that is completely enough for you and you will not buy anything cheaper and tested. For this you have applications for android and for devices with apple. I will tell you in private that I would have taken your place but it is your decision.

Hello
Currently, the case looks like I bought the recommended INTERNEC i7-N0608VH recorder. Reading his opinions and advantages, I know that it was a good choice. I avoided buying Chinese "something" for which I will not find instructions and help. Having bought the recorder, I already have a few questions. I will not post a new thread so if the moderator agrees I will present them here.
During the configuration I added cameras via the "wizard". Amazingly all cameras were detected by the recorder but unfortunately only one 5Mp without WiFi works correctly. Two 2Mp (one on a cable, another on WiFi) from the same company are visible, I can add them, unfortunately, after adding, there is no "play" icon next to them, which means that the camera has no preview and does not connect to the recorder; /. I don't know yet what the reason is and if there is a way to change it. I have yellow exclamation marks or when I hover over these inoperative cameras, the text "the camera is connected to another device" pops up; /.
The strange thing is that when editing these cameras, the recorder sees them on port 8000 (its default port) and in fact the cameras are set on port 81. The change in the recorder from 8000 to 81 did not give anything; /
Apart from these two cameras, I have a question of this one. It's about motion detection. Maybe someone will explain to me how it is when the camera itself has in the settings (by going to it through the browser) motion detection options and, for example, activate it. The camera itself detects up to 4 areas (frames) and sets them in its settings. Then configure the recorder which also has options for setting motion detection. Then I have a program dedicated to this i7-VMS v2 recorder which, surprisingly, also has a motion detection option where the grid detail is several dozen squares. My question is what will the camera use? I would be stupid each of these three programs has a different area so what will it look like? I have to enable only motion detection but select the area e.g. only in the recorder or program?
The same applies to the recording location. The camera has its own SD card and has marked in its settings that it should record on SD. In the recorder it records to the recorder disk and in the i7-VMS program I only have the option of recording to a disk from a computer (which I wanted to avoid). In the manual, the i7-VMS program says that recording in this program has NOTHING TO DO WITH THE RECORDER'S RECORDING. I am asking why such complications? If the recorder is recording to its disk and everything that is set on the recorder is sacred, I need a program on the PC to operate it (now I have to switch the cables in the monitor between the PC and the recorder, which I want to avoid). It comes with some options and settings that are mirrored between the soft of the recorder and the PC program of this recorder. What is paramount? Where to place
The last question at the moment is "event stream". It is intended for motion detection. In the recorder options I set the main stream to continuous and here I can set super quality and in the event stream poor quality. I am interested in motion detection and only such recording. Is the event stream only for preview or regardless of its low quality and will the recorded video be of the highest quality provided by the camera or unfortunately poor?

Albatun wrote:

The strange thing is that when editing these cameras, the recorder sees them on port 8000 (its default port) and in fact the cameras are set on port 81. The change in the recorder from 8000 to 81 did not give anything; /

Starting from the beginning by adding cameras you must choose the appropriate communication protocol. The communication port applies to a specific protocol, e.g. protocol [Internet port is default 8000, Bosch protocol port is 1756 etc. If there is no protocol defined for your cameras in the recorder, you can add it after the onvif protocol or the rtsp path but you need to know if the cameras support it and on what port or what path.

quote = "Albatun"] Then configures the recorder which also has options for setting motion detection. [/ quote]
The principle is as if you add a camera to the recorder, you configure all available settings from the recorder, i.e. coding, detection, etc.

"Chinese" cameras made in the garage have the option of pre-recording because they are not able to create recorders that will be able to handle these cameras. What else cameras counting on the market give the ability to record on the card and on the recorder. In cameras, e.g. Internec, there is an ANR option that allows you to record on the recorder and on the card, but in case of broken transmission, e.g. broken wi fi or cable, someone will damage it, after returning the transmission, the recorder will download the missing material - i.e. when there was no connection with the camera,

Albatun wrote:

in the i7-VMS program I only have the option of burning to a disk from a computer (which I wanted to avoid). In the manual, the i7-VMS program says that recording in this program has NOTHING TO DO WITH RECORDING BY THE RECORDER

what you wrote about the add-on from the i7-VMS package (i7-VMS pcnvr or storage server). The i7-VMS software package consists of several packages that we choose during installation. It's like the Office suite, you choose what you want to install Word, Excel, Access etc. I7-VMS client is a program for managing Internec devices.

Albatun wrote:

The last question at the moment is "event stream". It is intended for motion detection. In the recorder options I set the main stream to continuous and here I can set super quality and in the event stream poor quality. M

In Internec recorders you have the main stream (continuous / event) + auxiliary stream. In this recorder what you have then you can record the main stream. It works so that you can only record continuous stream or continuous stream + detection. So on a continuous stream you set 1 frame in the event mode, e.g. 15 fps. Event stream = recording after detection. It works so that when nothing happens, it records only one frame for you and if the detection detects motion then nvr will record you according to event parameters, i.e. 15 fps. This is good solution. because it happened to me that with other mounted recorders (other companies) it was only recorded after detection and the detection did not work and there was no event. Interneca recorders are really powerful and give great possibilities.

Okay, I wrote the easiest way I could, I think you'll understand

And I would consider using Raspbery PI 3 or OrangePI PC2 if it is supposed to be amatroski moitoring even after usb connect a pendriva on a uSD card system with a free zoneminder which has everything you need. and it only consumes 15 watts of electricity only.

The indicated recorder also downloads i7-N0608VH comparatively

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wampirek wrote:

And I would consider using Raspbery PI 3 or OrangePI PC2 if it is supposed to be amatroski moitoring even after usb connect a pendriva on a uSD card system with a free zoneminder which has everything you need. and it only consumes 15 watts of electricity only.

buddy "vampire" not everyone is as fascinated with electronics as you or me. For amateurs, a better solution is integrated monitoring, i.e. a recorder and a dedicated solution cms + cms program for a mobile device. We know that raspberry is a more developmental device, but you have to look for the solution yourself many times.

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I was thinking about raspberry but I don't have enough time to delve into the subject - it's rather for enthusiasts
Monitoring almost works. I have recommended the INTERNEC i7-N0608VH recorder
Cameras are visible ALL. Even after WiFi
Now I'm struggling a bit with the i7 program because despite the fact that the motion detection option is turned on, the camera records a continuous image (even it is cool because I can scroll through the watch a little before and after ... but the diagram does not show the moments where motion is detected (with a different color). On the right, I have selectively shown every 30 minutes that something was recorded, probably from detection, but 80% of the image is fine; /
Another problem is disappearing cameras after WiFi. They break the connection and cover ... they are not in the network you need to either restart the main router or go and turn on the camera power then the camera is active again and works but every day the same; /

Uuuu, I see that a little penalties flew in my subject; /
If this changes anything, I can officially write that PAN "cool_kanzas" served me with his hand, he answered private topics and there was no advertising or tribute to the device. The fact I bought the InterNec recorder but it was my top decision and the offer was very favorable and at the moment the recorder works. As I wrote, all cameras work. I have a problem with motion detection and more specifically with the i7 software.

In addition, I am looking for help with configuring the Tp-Link router with dd-wrt uploaded as a client. I wanted to use this router for cameras that go after wifi. They often break the connection and, as I wrote, they lose their network until the main router is restarted or the cameras are temporarily turned off.
I wanted to connect the camera with a cable to the Tp-Link router with dd-wrt software where I configured it as a client. I thought this would solve the picking problem.
Unfortunately, I do not have communication between routers. Although in the options and status I see that the router TP-link is connected to the network (I see the MAC of the main router) but enter WiFi to Tp-Link does not go and after connecting with a laptop to the internet router there is no