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Home monitoring 6 IP cameras - BCS or Hikvision [set up to 3 thousand]

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  • #1 18168520
    zenon1967
    Level 14  
    Hello colleagues.
    I am to install several cameras next to the house -6 pcs ..- cost up to about PLN 3,000.
    I am interested in the opinion of users and installers.

    https://ivel.pl/p10127,zecja-do-monitoringu-re regator-ip-bcs-bcs-p-nvr0801-4k-e-6x-kamera-4mpx-bcs-p-414r-e-ii.html
    Initial selection is-4Mpx-CAMERA BCS-P-414R-E-II- 6 pcs [about 300 PLN]
    Objects 4mm - angle about 70 degrees - this is the scope that interests me.
    Lighting at night is planned - to be mounted next to the cameras.
    BCS-P-NVR0801-4K-E RECORDER [about 600 PLN]
    2TB disk. [about PLN 300]
    SWITCH LV-SP0208G [about PLN 350]

    or Hikvision
    https://ivel.pl/p10980,monitoring-zewnetrzny-...kvision-hiwatch-reawodator-ip-hwn-4108mh.html

    If I need other data, I will complete it. I have read a lot and I know that 3,000 is not enough for good equipment, so I am looking for a price / quality compromise.
    I am waiting for opinions - about the topic - it can be priv - without unnecessary austerity.

    Regards, Zenon
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  • #2 18168868
    suworow
    VIP Meritorious for electroda.pl
    zenon1967 wrote:
    Objects 4mm - angle about 70 degrees - this is the scope that interests me.

    This is obvious. The second "set" is out of the question since there are cameras with a focal length of 2.8 mm :)
    As usual, there is no information about the disk in Ivel. So again counting on a not very sophisticated client.
    You can read about the Hiwatch series cameras in this material:
    https://www.elektroda.pl/rtvforum/topic3592781.html
  • #3 18168879
    sosarek

    Level 43  
    The equipment is completely not thought out, just look at the recorder description. The second is a little better.
    How do you know that 6 cameras are enough for the given angle of view to work, etc.?
    What's the point of packing in IP on a limited budget?
    Helpful post? Buy me a coffee.
  • #4 18168881
    Anonymous
    Level 1  
  • #5 18168893
    zenon1967
    Level 14  
    Thanks to colleagues for the information.
    A friend of the sauces.
    6 cameras - because ... he can count up to 10.
    4 mm lens - angle about -74 degrees - because the waist I'm interested in as much as it covers the terrain [I had geometry at school]
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  • #6 18168918
    suworow
    VIP Meritorious for electroda.pl
    A colleague will read it: https://www.elektroda.pl/rtvforum/topic3592781.html and will look at the notes of the indicated registrars.
    A colleague did not refer to what I wrote earlier:
    suworow wrote:
    This is obvious. The second "set" is out of the question since there are cameras with a focal length of 2.8 mm


    zenon1967 wrote:
    4 mm lens - angle about -74 degrees - because the waist I'm interested in as much as it covers the terrain [I had geometry at school]


    zenon1967 wrote:
    A friend of the sauces.
    6 cameras - because ... he can count up to 10.


    A colleague is already bored with this topic?
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  • #7 18168988
    zenon1967
    Level 14  
    The world of CCTV is a world of compromises, including the price ones ;)
    I allowed myself to quote from my colleague Suvorov.
    I looked at the article - in the evening time will allow me to read the rest. Notes from the recorders - I did not find ...
    I am inclined to IP- even worse quality- or at the beginning of fewer cameras.
    Some cables already distributed over IP
    4mm cameras, narrower field of view - from 2.8mm - more useful for me - walls of buildings, trees, etc ...
    The proposed drive is- 2TB SKYHAWK
    A budget of about 3,000 - this is just a prerequisite

    Thank you for the information.
  • #8 18168991
    sosarek

    Level 43  
    zenon1967 wrote:
    Notes from the registrars - I did not find ...

    Are you kidding Just enter your models in Google and you have hundreds of them.
    zenon1967 wrote:
    I am inclined to IP- even worse quality- or at the beginning of fewer cameras.

    Well, it's better to buy a sell instead of good quality equipment ...
    zenon1967 wrote:
    Some cables already distributed over IP

    Even the analog on the twisted pair is not a problem.
    Helpful post? Buy me a coffee.
  • #9 18169001
    zenon1967
    Level 14  
    Buddy sosarek - thank you very much for the advice - please do not clutter my topic.
    I wrote in 1 post - without unnecessary pinching - my friend can read ??
    So much for the topic.

    Added after 3 [minutes]:

    BCS and HIKVISION are rubbish companies - since when?
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  • #10 18169009
    sosarek

    Level 43  
    @ zenon1967 I suggest you learn to read with understanding, you can see that you have no idea about the subject and you ignore any advice and consider it spam.

    zenon1967 wrote:
    BCS and HIKVISION are rubbish companies - since when?

    Did I mention any brand?
    Better to buy CVI, AHD, TVI instead of the cheapest IP.
    Helpful post? Buy me a coffee.
  • #11 18169087
    zenon1967
    Level 14  
    Buddy Sosarek.
    I proposed 2 set of BCS and HIK - in your opinion it is a waste - you write it yourself, read it.
    ;; Well, it's better to buy a junk instead of good quality equipment. ;; - quote ..
    Ends - spam elsewhere
  • #12 18169095
    sosarek

    Level 43  
    @ zenon1967 Are you kidding yourself or are you seriously struggling to understand what is written to you clearly?
    sosarek wrote:
    zenon1967 wrote:
    I am inclined to IP- even worse quality- or at the beginning of fewer cameras.

    Well, it's better to buy a sell instead of good quality equipment ...

    You have a problem to even look at the specifications of the devices, you know everything better - what's the point for?
    Helpful post? Buy me a coffee.
  • #13 18169120
    zenon1967
    Level 14  
    sosarek wrote:
    @ zenon1967 Are you kidding yourself or are you seriously struggling to understand what is written to you clearly?
    sosarek wrote:
    zenon1967 wrote:
    I am inclined to IP- even worse quality- or at the beginning of fewer cameras.

    Well, it's better to buy a sell instead of good quality equipment ...

    You have a problem to even look at the specifications of the devices, you know everything better - what's the point for?


    Here we evaluate 2 proposed IP sets. BCS and HIK.
    We are talking about a compromise of "worse quality" - initially 2 proposed sets.
    The specification on paper is one thing.

    The assessment of the Installers' users - the latter - and these opinions interest me.
    Possibly other sets - what colleagues in the topic will suggest.
  • #14 18169128
    sosarek

    Level 43  
    Buying a set with 4MPx cameras in a set with an NVR that allows you to record only two channels in this resolution is pointless (you would read the specification, you would know about it) - that's why the installer selects the equipment individually and does not buy ready-made sets.
    The equipment is selected for the specific conditions on the site, there is not a word about them, you insist that the camera with a 4mm lens will meet the expectations.
    HiWatch is again a budget series.
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  • #15 18169204
    zenon1967
    Level 14  
    Thank you that our discussion is on the right track.
    I read between the lines that the 4MPx camera -that's at home is an exaggeration -OK.
    As I wrote earlier, I lean [and do not insist] - to the 4mm lens - such conditions in the square next to my house, where a narrower angle will work better.
    Narrow entrance to the property, narrow area between the house and trees, etc.
    The 2.8 lens is only a last resort.
    Therefore, according to my modest knowledge - I had previously proposed 2 sets.

    Another BCS set - with 4MM- 2MPx cameras - please give feedback about it.
    https://ivel.pl/p11199,zecja-monitoringu-do-f...u-reawodator-ip-6x-kamera-fullhd-akyszne.html

    HiWatch the budget series.
    Tomorrow I will read carefully about your proposal.
  • #16 18169506
    suworow
    VIP Meritorious for electroda.pl
    zenon1967 wrote:
    I read between the lines that the 4MPx camera -that's at home is an exaggeration -OK.

    Why an exaggeration. You just need to know that what we get in terms of quality during the day, we can give back at night, where the image from a 4MPx camera (especially from a budget camera) may turn out to be weaker than the image from a 2MPx camera.
    It all depends on our expectations. Definitely 4MPx to observe how the grass grows ;)
    Please read this more:
    https://www.elektroda.pl/rtvforum/topic3527930.html#17617115

    zenon1967 wrote:
    The proposed drive is- 2TB SKYHAWK

    I did not ask what my friend was going to buy the disk, but I suggested paying attention to what is in the set linked by my colleague, because the only information about it is that it is a 1 TB disk, without a name and model. It is always a way to get a few dozen zlotys on a set, and an untrained person will swallow it. Similarly to this recorder, which was pointed out by @sosarek

    These are such sweet secrets of cheap kits assembled by specialists from this company ;)
  • #17 18169534
    kood
    CCTV and Stationary Alarms specialist
    zenon1967 wrote:
    As I wrote earlier, I lean [and do not insist] - to the 4mm lens - such conditions in the square next to my house, where a narrower angle will work better.
    Narrow entrance to the property, narrow area between the house and trees, etc.
    The 2.8 lens is only a last resort.


    Buddy, you don't take one thing into account that a smaller horizontal angle is also a proportionally smaller vertical angle, and this can be important, it all depends on what the cameras are to observe, e.g. the length of the driveway and at what height they will be hung.

    Added after 1 [minutes]:

    sosarek wrote:
    Buying a set with 4MPx cameras in a set with an NVR that allows you to record only two channels in this resolution is pointless


    It is not surprising to me that this store made such a set :)

Topic summary

The discussion revolves around the installation of six IP cameras for home monitoring within a budget of PLN 3,000. Users express concerns about the quality and specifications of the proposed equipment, particularly comparing BCS and Hikvision brands. The initial selection includes BCS-P-414R-E-II cameras with a 4mm lens and a BCS-P-NVR0801-4K-E recorder. Participants debate the adequacy of 4MPx cameras, suggesting that lower resolution might be more effective in low-light conditions. There are recommendations to consider Turbo HD systems as a potentially better value alternative. The importance of selecting equipment based on specific site conditions and the limitations of budget kits are emphasized, with suggestions for alternative models and configurations.
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