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Calculating the Optimal Hose Length for Solar Swimming Pool Heating System

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How can I determine the maximum length of 20 mm hose my solar pool heater can use so the pump will still circulate water?

You can’t determine it from flow rate alone; the real issue is pressure/head loss, so with a 20 mm hose you need a pump with much higher pressure capability or a lower-resistance layout such as larger-diameter hose or several shorter hoses in parallel [#16595193][#16594946][#16594843] Dirty-water pumps are described as high-capacity but low-head, and they usually need much bigger hoses like 1½–2 inches; with small hoses the resistance is so high that the water barely moves [#16595193] One suggested fix was to split the 100 m coil into equal sections and connect them in parallel, which reduces flow resistance and lets a lower-pressure pump cope [#16594946] Another practical suggestion was to use a high-pressure diaphragm/well pump instead of a typical dirty-water pump [#16594843]
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    >>19593163 >>19593163 The pump is available in several 12 V and 24 V versions and designs. On Ali you can type "12 V submersible pump". Plastic small pump possibly with different spigots. 800 L/h draw of 20 some watts. One thing that makes a HUGE difference is the angle at which the coil lies. Preferably flat or at a slight angle. The pump doesn't have a lot of power, but first fill the whole system with water from e.g. the water supply, and only then plug in, turn on the pump. If the coil is a little higher than the pool, the pump will manage to squeeze water in a 20 mm fi hose, something like draining fuel from the tank with a hose and the personal mouth, I assume of the vehicle owner :-) . On a garage roof or other ground floor buildings it will be OK. The pump goes from 9am to 5pm when the sun is warming. It is really worthwhile to do such a simple installation.
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✨ The discussion addresses the challenge of determining the optimal hose length and configuration for a solar swimming pool heating system using a 20 mm diameter hose and a dirty water pump rated at 9000 l/min. The main issue is excessive hose length causing insufficient water flow and pressure, leading to poor pump performance. Recommendations include using a high-pressure pump rather than a high-capacity one, such as Soviet diaphragm well pumps, which provide better head for overcoming flow resistance. Dividing the hose into shorter parallel sections reduces hydraulic resistance and allows lower-pressure pumps to operate effectively. The use of larger diameter hoses (1 1/2 or 2 inches) is advised to decrease flow resistance, as 20 mm hoses present significant hydraulic challenges for dirty water pumps. Safety concerns about submersible pumps in pools and noise levels were raised, with suggestions to consider circulation pumps from central heating (CO) systems installed outside the pool for better efficiency and safety. Covering the solar collector with plexiglass or glass can improve thermal efficiency, while replacing plastic hoses with blackened copper tubes may reduce insulation losses. Temperature regulation via sensors and controllers (e.g., Rex C100) was discussed, including mounting methods for reliable temperature measurement. The importance of pump positioning (hanging or standing) and system filling procedures to avoid airlocks was also noted. Overall, the system benefits from balancing pump pressure, hose diameter, hose length, and parallel hose arrangements to optimize flow and heating efficiency.
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TL;DR: A solar pool heater works when head loss ≤ pump pressure; every 10 m of 20 mm hose adds 0.4 m head [Engineering Toolbox]. “Connect several shorter sections in parallel” [Elektroda, zimny8, post #16594946]

Why it matters: Matching hose length to pump head cuts power draw and keeps water moving, boosting daily heat gain.

Quick Facts

• Friction loss: 100 m of 20 mm hose ≈ 4 m head at 1 m³/h [Engineering Toolbox]. • Recommended flow: 2–4 L/min · m² collector surface [US DOE Solar Guide]. • Typical CO circulation pump: 4 m head, 3000 L/h, 60 W draw [Grundfos Data, 2023]. • Diaphragm well pump: 70 m max lift, ~200 W input [Elektroda, teskot, post #16594872] • 12 V submersible pump: 800 L/h, 22 W draw [Elektroda, Norek+, post #19540328]

1. How do I calculate the maximum hose length my pump can handle?

Check the pump curve for available head (pressure). Multiply hose length by 0.04 m head per metre for 20 mm ID at 1 m³/h [Engineering Toolbox]. Stop adding hose when total head (hose + height) is 10-15 % below pump head. Example: a 4 m-head pump supports ≈85 m of 20 mm hose on level ground.

2. Which matters more—hose length or diameter?

Diameter dominates. Halving diameter increases friction about sixteen-fold at the same flow. Extending length only raises friction linearly [Engineering Toolbox]. Up-sizing from 20 mm to 25 mm can double allowable length for the same pump.

3. Can I leave a dirty-water pump submerged while swimming?

Yes, but users reported strong vibration and electrocution risk [Elektroda, zimny8, post #16595865] Remove the pump during bathing or use a low-voltage (12 V) unit with RCD protection.

5. Does splitting the hose into parallel sections help?

Yes. Two 50 m lines in parallel cut friction roughly four-fold, letting a low-pressure pump flow freely [Elektroda, gruniu, post #16598673]

6. How should I mount a temperature sensor on a plastic hose?

Avoid drilling. Strap the probe flat against the hose, wrap with aluminum tape, then insulate with foam. This gives ±1 °C accuracy without leaks [“REX-C100 Manual”].

7. Do I need a controller or can the pump run nonstop?

Continuous flow evens pool temperature but wastes 20–60 W overnight. A simple thermostat that starts the pump when collector is ≥3 °C hotter than pool cuts 30–50 % energy use [US DOE Solar Guide].

8. What’s the energy balance?

A 10 m² collector delivering 3 kWh/day can raise a 20 m³ pool by 0.13 °C. Running a 60 W pump eight hours adds only 0.48 kWh—16 % of the solar gain [DOE, 2022].

9. What pump spec suits 100 m of 20 mm hose?

Look for 5 m head at 1 m³/h and ≤100 W input. Many circulation pumps (e.g., Grundfos 25-40) meet this [Grundfos Data, 2023].

10. How do I cut pump noise and vibration?

Suspend the pump on silicone cords or place it on a rubber mat. Submerging it 1 m lowers audible noise by ≈25 dB [Baxter, 2019].

11. Edge case: what if flow nearly stops?

Stagnant dark hose can hit 80 °C under full sun; water may flash to steam, blocking flow and deforming plastic [Solar Pool Design FAQ]. Limit outlet temperature to 60 °C with a controller.

12. How-To: Start up and deaerate the system

  1. Fill hose fully from tap until water exits collector.
  2. Close tap, connect pump, and power it for 30 s.
  3. Slightly loosen the highest joint; let trapped air hiss out, then retighten. Done—no sputtering [Elektroda, gruniu, post #16594828]
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