Opel Vivaro 2013 2.0 dci 114HP - How much refrigerant? And how far to Trafic?

When browsing various catalogs, there are different amounts of refrigerant for the Opel Vivaro (Trafic and Primastar say otherwise).

I am interested in Opel service source how much air conditioning should be bought in Opel Vivaro from 2013-2014, version L2H1, dual-zone air conditioning (vents in the back), 9 passenger version, engine 2.0 with 114 HP (84KW).

If someone had access to a service source, I would like to give a VIN number to check.

ps what pressure should be at the correct amount of refrigerant according to the service source?

Amount of refrigerant in the system (with rear air conditioning system)


F4R 720, F4R 820, F9Q 760, F9Q 762, G9U 630, G9U 730

1150 g


Amount of refrigerant in the system (with rear air conditioning system)


M9R 630, M9R 692, M9R 780, M9R 782, M9R 784, M9R 786, M9R 788

950 g

data from tisa Regards ...

Well, that's it

The strangest thing is that the publicly available catalogs for Renault Trafic M9R give different values ....

Does anyone have access to a Renault service source and how much they supply the factor for air conditioning for Renault Trafic Long, 9 people with rear air conditioning, for cars from the years 2013-2014?

Added after 12 [minutes]:

And the amount of oil that should be loaded into the system? Does the clogging machine also have options for giving it the amount of oil it needs to fill?

As a rule, the same amount of oil is dispensed as was recovered - unless something was changed (condenser, evaporator, wires, etc.).

Added after 28 [minutes]:


Quantities of oil:


Refrigerant circuit

220 ml ? 15 ml


compressor *

Not applicable


Condenser

30 ml


evaporator

30 ml


dehydrator

15 ml


Any refrigerant piping

10 ml

Note: * The new compressor is delivered after pre-filling. The repaired spare compressor should be emptied and filled with the specified oil in the amount of 120 ml.

Oil data by tisa ......

Colleague Milejów he wrote:

"If it has an evaporator in the back (the presence of vents does not determine this), it is 950g. The pressures in each climate are similar, in an efficient system should be in the vicinity of LP 2-3bars-HP 15-17bar."

I honestly did not see Trafic / Vivaro with the ceiling air in the second and third row and without the evaporator in the back ...?

I am asking you again if someone has access to a Renault service source and can check how much they supply the factor for air conditioning for Renault Trafic Long, 9 seats with air conditioning in the rear, for cars from the years 2013-2014? According to my sources, they give different values than to Vivaro !?

For example, in the BEHR-Hella catalog, they state:
- Renault Trafic: R134 - 950 g; 250 ml oil
- Opel Vivaro: R134 - 950 g; 235 ml oil
In the Valeo catalog:
- Renault Trafic: R134 - 1050 g ? 35; oil 220 ml
- Opel Vivaro: R134 - 950 g; 220 ? 15 ml oil

viper111 wrote:

I honestly did not see Trafic / Vivaro with the ceiling air in the second and third row and without the evaporator in the back ...?

You wrote in general, with the airflow at the back, and the trafo without rear air also has airflow at the back (blows from the floor and blower control in the roof) The next case, 100gram of the factor does not make a significant difference in the kilogram. I do not have access to service data, I service climate control based on my data and I never had a problem, you want other data - go to aso. I fill this model with Trafic 950gram and add 3% of the volume of the refrigerant if no element of air-conditioning was replaced / emptied of oil.

milejow wrote:

and I add 3% of the volume of the oil if no air-conditioning element has been replaced / emptied of oil

Why this oil refill You 3% other 3% and in a moment 10%, and this is your calculation 100 ml oil, which is almost 50% of the entire system, and what is the compressor how to compress the oil and not the factor
The service data is below. I wonder who applies the appropriate oils

genek1000 wrote:

Why this oil refill

Because the station is less or less recovered (I do not add, I give back as much as I regained, but fresh) As if every servant was checking how much his station regained oil and did not add it to the blind eye, there would be no such questions.

milejow wrote:

Because less / more, the station recovers (I do not add, I give back as much as I recovered, but fresh)

Ooh no no, my lord.
You did not write that it adds as much as the station will recover,
only:

milejow wrote:

and I add 3% of the agent's volume if it has not been replaced / emptied

And besides, you know that oil can be recovered 0 or more depending on how much time has elapsed since the last operation of the system or if the system worked at the time of downloading.

So that was the question.
Sometimes I can read with understanding

genek1000 wrote:

The service data is below.

That's what I wanted to do to determine the service values

So for the M9R model:
- Vivaro gas 950 g, oil 220 ml ? 15 ml
- Hit gas 950 ? 35 g, oil 230 ml ? 10 ml

Thank you very much for your help

genek1000 wrote:

Sometimes I can read with understanding

You cling to the words Gienia

Loose