logo elektroda
logo elektroda
X
logo elektroda

Lenovo Z710 Laptop Fall Issue: Won't Turn On, Power & Webcam LED Blinks, BIOS & Drive Detection

MrDoimer 4464 16
ADVERTISEMENT
Treść została przetłumaczona polish » english Zobacz oryginalną wersję tematu
  • #1 16654739
    MrDoimer
    Level 38  
    Hello,

    A friend provided me with a laptop as in the subject. Her laptop fell from a height of about 1.5 m. The effect is that sometimes the BIOS did not detect the drive at all, and sometimes the system fired normally. I had 5 minutes to sit with it and wanted to run Linux Live from USB. Several times I turned the laptop on and off from the button. After some time, it suddenly does not give a sign of life except for the "Power" diode for 1 second and the webcam diode will flash for a fraction of a second.

    What could have happened? Of course, I tried to remove the battery, fire from the power supply itself, etc., but nothing is still the same.
  • ADVERTISEMENT
  • #2 16654747
    xoree
    Level 30  
    What current does the laptop consume at startup?
  • #3 16654757
    Dydelmax
    Level 39  
    Hello.
    Enter the designation of the motherboard.
    MrDoimer wrote:
    The effect is that sometimes the BIOS did not detect the drive at all, and sometimes the system fired normally. [...] After some time, it suddenly does not give a sign of life, except for the "Power" diode for 1 second and the webcam diode will flash for a fraction of a second.

    It is possible that the balls under the chipset broke off as a result of the fall - heat it up diagnostically with a hot air soldering iron for several seconds and check the results.
    greetings
  • ADVERTISEMENT
  • #4 16654820
    xoree
    Level 30  
    I wouldn't heat it right away.
    The bios charge could still be damaged.
  • #5 16655298
    MrDoimer
    Level 38  
    When I am at home, I will measure the power consumption.

    I note that it does not have tools such as hot air.
    I would like to know how it is possible that the laptop suddenly stopped working when it turned on until recently.
    It is true that sometimes at the start of the Lenovo logo, it was restarted.
    I would like to add that after connecting the pendrive from Linux Live, after entering the Boot menu, the only option of booting from the network was visible, so I could not even start Linux.

    Anything else I can do at home?
    Thank you for your answer.
  • #6 16655358
    Dydelmax
    Level 39  
    MrDoimer wrote:
    I would like to add that after connecting the pendrive from Linux Live, after entering the Boot menu, the only option of booting from the network was visible, so I could not even start Linux.

    This may indicate damage to the chipset or its connection to the board. It can also be a problem with the BIOS input - the programmer is necessary here (at home it can be assembled from an LPT plug and a few resistors - https://www.elektroda.pl/rtvforum/topic2602823.html).
    MrDoimer wrote:
    I note that it does not have tools such as hot air.

    You specialize in "computers, electronics", so I think you'll find a match. ;)
    The worst possible scenario may be the failure of the plate as a result of microcracks in the tracks due to a fall - then the plate may only be suitable for donating parts.
    greetings
  • ADVERTISEMENT
  • #7 16655424
    MrDoimer
    Level 38  
    Dydelmax wrote:

    You specialize in "computers, electronics"

    Stationary :D
    Dydelmax wrote:
    so I think you will find a match.

    A dryer with a narrow nozzle probably won't work, right :) ? I won't find anything else.

    Moderated By RADU23:

    All types of household appliances are not devices used to repair computer components. We do not talk about them in the "Computers" sections.




    Dydelmax wrote:

    This may indicate damage to the chipset or its connection to the board.

    I understand that the only way to be sure this is by heating the circuit? Apart from the possible damage to the BIOS.
  • ADVERTISEMENT
  • #8 16655483
    boro1234567
    IT specialist
    xoree wrote:
    The bios charge could still be damaged.

    From the fall?
    Dydelmax wrote:

    It is possible that the balls under the chipset broke off as a result of the fall - heat it up diagnostically with a hot air soldering iron for several seconds and check the results.
    greetings

    If the connections under the system were broken, heating will not do anything.
    MrDoimer wrote:

    I understand that the only way to be sure this is by heating the circuit? Apart from the possible damage to the BIOS.

    No.
    You were supposed to give the power consumption, the plate designation.
  • #9 16655495
    MrDoimer
    Level 38  
    boro1234567 wrote:

    If the connections under the system were broken, heating will not do anything.

    If the laptop is handed over for reballing (they have a 3-month warranty on offer), what does it look like? They will heat up and say "no sorry, but the connections under the system have broken off, so $$ and goodbye"?
    boro1234567 wrote:
    You were supposed to give the power consumption, the plate designation.

    I won't make it today, but I will provide this data tomorrow.
  • #10 16655768
    xoree
    Level 30  
    boro1234567 wrote:

    From the fall?

    Not from a fall, but from switching off and switching off during the diagnosis (he walked - he stopped walking).
    MrDoimer wrote:
    Several times I turned the laptop on and off from the button


    Added after 11 [minutes]:

    MrDoimer wrote:

    If the laptop is handed over for reballing (they have a 3-month warranty on offer), what does it look like? They will heat up and say "no sorry, but the connections under the system have broken off, so $$ and goodbye"?


    No Reball involves removing the old binder (usually lead-free to lead-based binder) and replacing with the new one. Of course, it has a positive effect if the balls in the core of the BGA chip are not damaged.
  • #11 16656523
    ul1002

    Level 35  
    Of course, the bios may spill out from the fall, it springs out spontaneously under the influence of such interference as a fall, all the more so. However, the fault indicates broken pads under the BGA. greetings
  • #12 16656530
    xoree
    Level 30  
    Maybe, but unlikely, rather constant switching on and only damaged the batch.
  • #13 16656557
    xury
    Automation specialist
    In some, Lenovo will not start if the bios battery is dead. Maybe somewhere she got hit after the fall?
  • #14 16726706
    MrDoimer
    Level 38  
    Welcome back!
    A friend took the laptop for service, but it is a "neighborhood shop" and she did not even receive a repair report. She claims that "they exchanged some arrangement" and she paid PLN 300. I think they probably did reballing. Now the laptop turns on and works, but only the USB3.0 ports are working (!) [On the left side, both] and on the right side USB 2.0 shows no sign of life.
    Sound is also not working. The drivers are all there, no yellow exclamation marks in the device manager. In the audio mixer, you can see the system "deliver" the sound, but you can't hear anything. No response after plugging in the headphones.
    The service told her, when she reported the above-mentioned faults, that "they got a laptop with a symptom of not turning on and they took care of it" ....
  • #15 16726776
    Dydelmax
    Level 39  
    MrDoimer wrote:
    Now the laptop turns on and works, but only USB3.0 (!) [Left side, both] ports are working, and on the right, USB 2.0 shows no sign of life.

    The fragment I bold could give hope that the website forgot to plug in the tapes from the PCB with USB and 3.5 mm Jack sockets. However, I do not want to believe that they did not connect the speakers either.
    At the moment, the words of a colleague may be prophetic boro1234567 :
    boro1234567 wrote:
    If the connections under the system were broken, heating will not do anything.

    In the service, they apparently ended up heating up ...
    greetings
  • #16 16727054
    xoree
    Level 30  
    You need to check the series and year of production of the system + see if there are any traces of soldering (flux, damaged laminate of the system - from the reball as they screwed into the stand).
  • #17 16727805
    slawmix1234
    Level 32  
    MrDoimer wrote:
    Now the laptop turns on and works, but only the USB3.0 ports are working (!) [On the left side, both] and on the right side USB 2.0 shows no sign of life.
    Sound is also not working.

    Advertise the service or demand a refund because for such an amount it should be like from the factory, I do not tolerate bungling and incompetence

Topic summary

The Lenovo Z710 laptop experienced failure after a fall from approximately 1.5 meters, leading to intermittent BIOS detection issues and eventual complete power failure, indicated by blinking power and webcam LEDs. Users suggested potential causes including damage to the chipset, broken connections under the motherboard, or BIOS corruption. Recommendations included measuring power consumption and considering reballing as a repair option. After service, the laptop was operational but exhibited issues with USB 2.0 ports and audio output, raising concerns about the quality of the repair and possible oversight in reconnecting internal components.
Summary generated by the language model.
ADVERTISEMENT