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GSM Repeater Legality: UKE Penalties, PLAY's Stance & BTS Play (26006) ID: KIE3314 Signal

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  • #1 16657845
    msobczykck
    Level 2  
    Hello.,
    I have browsed posts about GSM repeaters and I know what I should buy. But UKE claims that the installation is punishable from 1k PLN to 2years.
    PLAY (conversation today at 22:07) says: "that I would buy a repeater myself and mount it".
    What is your opinion on this subject? Since I am not a telecommunications entrepreneur, is it not allowed to set up a GSM repeater ?! PLAY is required to provide a professional level of service, because it is bound by the contract. What to do? Go to court for compensation? You have experience how to get the operator to fulfill the contract in a different way? Can UKE help?
    Greetings,
    PS Nearest to BTS Play (26006) ID: KIE3314 signal 110-115dBm :(
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  • #2 16657865
    dedito
    Level 39  
    Probably I will only lose time but I will ask, what point, the contract points do you want to invoke?
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  • #3 16657873
    nutergsm
    Moderator of GSM
    msobczykck wrote:
    PLAY is required to provide a professional level of service, because it is bound by the contract.

    You can buy yourself and not use it anymore.
    msobczykck wrote:
    PLAY (conversation today at 22:07) says: "that I would buy a repeater myself and mount it".

    This PLAY should mount such a device, but it is known that it will not bother that for one client.
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    #4 16657889
    Jawi_P
    Level 36  
    msobczykck wrote:
    What is your opinion on this subject?

    I had a similar problem with one operator in the previous place of residence. I canceled the contract due to the operator's fault. Of course, I had to argue, etc.
    In your case, the operator wants you to pay extra for their infrastructure :)
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  • #5 16657892
    msobczykck
    Level 2  
    dedito wrote:
    Probably I will only lose time but I will ask, what point, the contract points do you want to invoke?


    "Department of Telecommunications Retail Market
    Office of Electronic Communications (UKE)
    We can file a complaint in the following cases:
    c) failure to perform or improper performance of the telecommunications service,

    Act of 23 April
    1964. Civil Code (Journal of Laws of 2014, item 121) hereinafter referred to as
    "KC"). According to art. 111 § 2 of the Civil Code in relation to art. 110 KC,

    Liability of the telecommunications undertaking for non-performance
    or improper performance of services, they define in relation to the entrepreneur
    designated provisions of the Pt Act and the provisions of the Regulations
    provision of telecommunications services. If the operator considers it appropriate
    (reasonable) may, but is not obliged to, under
    Complaint admit additional compensation for which it applies
    subscriber, rather than compensation determined by the provisions of the Act on
    or provisions of the Regulations.

    According to art. 104 of the Act on Responsibility of entrepreneurs
    telecommunications for non-performance or improper performance
    telecommunications services shall be governed by the provisions of the Civil Code,
    subject to paragraph 2 and art. 107 para. 1 of the Act on '

    Added after 4 [minutes]:

    nutergsm wrote:
    msobczykck wrote:
    PLAY is required to provide a professional level of service, because it is bound by the contract.

    You can buy yourself and not use it anymore.
    msobczykck wrote:
    PLAY (conversation today at 22:07) says: "that I would buy a repeater myself and mount it".

    This PLAY should mount such a device, but it is known that it will not bother that for one client.


    So UKE remains ?!
  • #6 16657926
    Jawi_P
    Level 36  
    File a complaint to the operator in writing. This is the basis, even in case of referral to UKE, etc.
    By. "Regulation of the Minister of Administration and Digitization of December 12, 2014 (consolidated text Dz.U.2017 item 96) on radio transmitting or transmitting and receiving equipment that can be used without radio license" - it appears that you can not install a repeater. Play can and there are places where operators install such things.
    E.g. "Morskie Oko" Hostel ;)
    I know a company where such an amplifier was installed by another company, without permission, operator's knowledge, etc. :)
  • #7 16657971
    dedito
    Level 39  
    You refer to the regulation, the act is not contracted with the operator.
    Look first at the contract.
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  • #10 16659557
    tino2003
    Admin of GSM Group
    msobczykck wrote:
    But UKE claims that the installation is punishable


    So mount, use and do not praise anyone and you will not have any problems.

    Regardless of any laws and paragraphs, such an amplifier is not legal and no operator will do it strictly for you because it will not pay off.
  • #11 16660301
    Anonymous
    Level 1  
  • #12 16660333
    Jawi_P
    Level 36  
    A GSM gateway is, after all, a normal cell as a transceiver with a SIM card and approval. It differs from the cell in that there is no display and keyboard.
    Following your lead, you would have to say that the modem can not be used. ;)
    Repeaters are used without permits, etc.
    But if such a repeater would disturb your neighbor and he would report and the matter would come out, it would be your problem with your amplifier.
    The problem is that you can sell officially, but do not use it. The interpretation of law is also not precise and unambiguous in many cases and so it is that everyone knows theirs.
    The author should look at the provisions of the contract, file a complaint and possibly break the contract due to the fault of the operator, look for another one that provides coverage.
    Or install yourself on your own "risk" this repeater and so much, if it pays him very much on this operator. I will think of nothing else.

Topic summary

The discussion revolves around the legality of installing GSM repeaters in Poland, particularly in relation to UKE regulations and the stance of the mobile operator PLAY. The user expresses concern about potential penalties from UKE for unauthorized installation, which could range from 1,000 PLN to two years of imprisonment. Responses indicate that while users can purchase repeaters, their installation without proper authorization is generally illegal. Some participants suggest that PLAY should provide adequate service, and if not, the user could file a complaint or seek compensation. There are references to legal provisions regarding telecommunications services and the necessity for operators to ensure proper coverage. The conversation highlights the ambiguity in regulations and the risks associated with unauthorized installations, including potential complaints from neighbors.
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