logo elektroda
logo elektroda
X
logo elektroda

Best Screwdriver Under 450 PLN: BOSCH GSR 1080-2-LI for Wood & Metal Use - 30Nm Power & Comfort

korky 10032 18
ADVERTISEMENT
Treść została przetłumaczona polish » english Zobacz oryginalną wersję tematu
  • #1 16722650
    korky
    Level 13  
    Hello,

    I have already looked at a few similar threads and I have doubts as to which screwdriver would be right for me. It is known that I want to spend as little as possible (PLN 450 is already the limit at which the hose from the pocket will be heard loudly) but I would also like the equipment not to be picked up. I need a screwdriver not for work every day, but rather for home. Sometimes it may happen that I work on it for a whole day or two. I also have a large Graphite impact drill, so I do not need anything to drill holes in concrete. I will mainly screw wood with screws and sporadically drill holes in the metal.

    Is the BOSCH GSR 1080-2-LI screwdriver sufficient for these operations? As I do not know in practice how many Newton meters is what strength - is it able to write something that I will NOT do anymore by having just such BOSCHA with 30Nm? The screwdriver looks comfortable, but it is not a priority for me (although it is a significant plus).
    Besides, do we pay for the brand when paying for Bosch, or is there really no one offering the same amount for the lower price?

    Or maybe you recommend a different one, for example EINHELL?

    I am asking for advice.
  • ADVERTISEMENT
  • #2 16723287
    gradek83
    Level 42  
    I recommend WIERTARKO-WKRĘTARKA 2X1,5 Ah 14,4V BOSCH GSR140LI
    I recently bought and I'm happy two rechargeable batteries fast loading light has backlight two modes of work the charger suitcase.
    Battery voltage 14.4 V
    Max. OE screws 8 mm
    Maximum torque (hard / soft screw) 50/18 Nm
    3-year warranty.
  • ADVERTISEMENT
  • #3 16723326
    alfsky
    Level 10  
    Currently, 70% of the price is 70% batteries. In the cheapest, ours are 1.3-1.5 ah, and it is enough for drilling in metal. I would, however, look for something that the 10-12mm drill comes into. Because you'll need to drill a hole to let your head in and you'll get pissed that it will not come. Now in Castro he is on the promotion of black decker 18V with a stroke (probably not much) for less than 400. Maybe enough? I have a 5-year-old macalistera and it's still great, 2-year-old devalta where once in the process and the second time after the guarantee batteries have died. At the colleague, the same in the same model, we are going to 3-thou for exchange of links ;) . And at home, a tiny screw driver, bosha select. This bit magazine is a revelation, there is always the right tip at hand. Like only 3.6V, but the strength is amazing. Biggest flaw? No clutch. But sometimes I take it to the company because it fits everywhere where a standard screwdriver has no chance.
  • #4 16723384
    suworow
    VIP Meritorious for electroda.pl
    alfsky wrote:
    Currently, 70% of the price is 70% batteries. In the cheapest, ours are 1.3-1.5 ah, and it is enough for drilling in metal.

    That's exactly how you write. And it is also true that with aku 1.5 Ah and charging time pow 1h, there is no chance of a continuous greater work such as drilling in metal with a drill bit. 5 mm
    korky wrote:
    As I do not know in practice how many Newton meters is what strength - is it able to write something that I will NOT do anymore by having just such BOSCHA with 30Nm?

    You will do everything, only slower and maybe you will get the device much faster. At 50Nm you can feel "this power" and you can see the progress at work. In this bosch, only a rather low soft torque compared to the hard one is surprising.
  • #5 16723454
    mychaj
    Level 35  
    I have this BD from the casto - with the fact that I bought it without accessories (these drills and bits), 2 aku and a suitcase,
    I have been using it for 3 years and I will not say a word for it, I will do a lot,
    I even drilled under the pictures of my wife with a stroke in a brick,
    although I do not like using it because it's a screwdriver.
  • ADVERTISEMENT
  • #6 16723529
    suworow
    VIP Meritorious for electroda.pl
    suworow wrote:
    You will do everything

    I've exaggerated a little, because the problem will appear, for example when screwing / unscrewing long screws.
    korky wrote:
    Besides, do we pay for the brand when paying for Bosch, or is there really no one offering the same amount for the lower price?

    korky wrote:
    Or maybe you recommend a different one, for example EINHELL?


    See how much it costs with similar parameters mentioned in einhell TE-CD 18/2
    Every producer tries to offer budget products in their offer and their price does not differ significantly from those less branded.
    greetings
  • ADVERTISEMENT
  • #7 16726161
    korky
    Level 13  
    Thank you all for the suggestion. I hope I have done my homework properly. After two days of analysis, I came to my dream (quality / price) screwdriver. Respect for gradek83. First shot- golden shot.

    gradek83 wrote:
    I recommend WILLIAM DRILL 2X1,5 Ah 14,4V BOSCH GSR140LI


    All with a set with two 1.5 Ah batteries. All without stroke. You convinced me to have more than 30 Nm, so I was looking for one. Bosch has many interesting safeguards - from overloading, overheating of the battery and the engine. These patents were my second determinant. Bosch screwdrivers with these functions are already eligible for the PRO type. Reportedly, they significantly extend the life of batteries and screwdrivers. I asked a friend from a construction company yesterday and praises these systems very much. He says he works on bosch bosch 1440 1.5 years non-stop. It's enough to charge 20 minutes and drive on (which would be okay because according to the specifications, the battery charges for half the charging period to 75%). In addition, the screwdriver becomes suddenly as soon as the battery is close to exhaustion, thus not completely discharging (without damaging the aku). Unfortunately, I did not find such functions in other screwdrivers. Although I was hoping that I would not come to such a conclusion, it seems to me that through these additional functions BOSCH is the best quality / price.

    Below I present my list of suggestions from the post and a few boschów. The prices given are the lowest I have found, including the shipping cost of 2 aku and the charger of course.

    Best Screwdriver Under 450 PLN: BOSCH GSR 1080-2-LI for Wood & Metal Use - 30Nm Power & Comfort

    As you can deduce from the black decker table, it is not the best choice when it comes to screwdrivers up to 30 Nm. With a suitcase it would cost the same as the BOSH GSR 1080 (and even PLN 10 more) and it has half the lower turnover, charges 4x longer, weighs more and there are no security systems. Its only negligible plus is 2Nm more, which probably generally go out worse than those in the boschu.

    The EINHELL TE-CD 18-2 equals the performance of the BOSCH GSR 140-LI. It is even cheaper by 30 PLN. However, when paying PLN 30 for bosch, we get higher revolutions, less weight, security system, slightly higher torque by 2Nm. The downside is the slightly longer loading (although I'm not sure, because I have not found anywhere about the length of charging, if someone has such information, please complete).

    One thing is bothering me terribly. Why is the Bosch GSR 140-LI the same price as the BOSCH GSR 18-2-LI with everything 18-2-li and 12 Nm more ?!
    Similarly with the Bosch GSR 1440. Supposedly more reasonable, because the price difference, however 40 PLN for 20 Nm more ?!
    Have I overlooked any disadvantages of the GSR 140-LI?

    If you agree with these requests, please confirm. If I am not asking for criticism / attention. Maybe someone in the near future will not have to spend time on a thorough analysis completely unaware of the subject of screwdrivers (like me :P ).
  • #8 16726210
    gradek83
    Level 42  
    In the end, I can propose a Bosch GSR 180-LI + GLI 18V-300, but that's beyond the budget
    Battery voltage 18 V
    Max. OE screws 10 mm
    Maximum torque (hard / soft screw) 54/21 Nm
  • #9 16726367
    mychaj
    Level 35  
    And you buy the way you like it - you have 450 budget buy from the upper ceiling, I do not know how many screws you will screw it, because I renovated my apartment, I went around black with no walls and ceilings, I only changed the batteries, now I am going to lay my parents-in-law (40m / kw) and I will pull it too. And you put up equipment from 300 to almost 500 for me, too big difference in price to compare them.
    My EGBL188KB is also bought in the casto for maybe 360 PLN.
  • #10 16730204
    gradek83
    Level 42  
    For the sake of clarity, the manufacturer fi gives for screws but when it comes to mounting itself, it has 13mm at GSR140LI


    Best Screwdriver Under 450 PLN: BOSCH GSR 1080-2-LI for Wood & Metal Use - 30Nm Power & Comfort
  • #11 16730304
    freebsd
    Level 42  
    For two seasons (mainly in the summer) I use a drill with a small battery (1.3 Ah) and low power (20 Nm or 30 Nm - depending on the source) - at least in relation to the above. This season I bought a second one, the same. The proverb says that the head does not hurt from the tent (parameters), but do you need such a cool screwdrivers for DIY and small repairs?
  • #12 16734655
    korky
    Level 13  
    gradek83 wrote:
    In the end, I can propose a Bosch GSR 180-LI + GLI 18V-300, but that's beyond the budget
    Battery voltage 18 V
    Max. OE screws 10 mm
    Maximum torque (hard / soft screw) 54/21 Nm


    gradek83 wrote:
    For the sake of clarity, the manufacturer fi gives for screws but when it comes to mounting itself, it has 13mm at GSR140LI


    Best Screwdriver Under 450 PLN: BOSCH GSR 1080-2-LI for Wood & Metal Use - 30Nm Power & Comfort



    I think that I will not add more and more pennies :D
    He always tempts, but he does not need it. Besides, I found an interesting solution. My colleague, when he heard about it, bought a screwdriver, he recommended a impact screwdriver ... Well, from the word to the word I came to the point that it was a wrench. I checked what it was and found out that in total it would have been possible to make such an impact adapter for the impact wrench ... Of course, it turns out that I have not discovered America and will not earn millions again:

    Best Screwdriver Under 450 PLN: BOSCH GSR 1080-2-LI for Wood & Metal Use - 30Nm Power & Comfort

    Video how the impact wrench / adapter is working

    So I'm buying the GSR140LI and I'm going to buy an adapter for really big screws. Question where? Have you seen any of you in a store, or do you know the name of the adapter in Polish? I was looking on the net and only found on Alibaba, but I do not buy 1000 adapters ..


    mychaj wrote:
    And you buy the way you like it - you have 450 budget buy from the upper ceiling, I do not know how many screws you will screw it, because I renovated my apartment, I went around black with no walls and ceilings, I only changed the batteries, now I am going to lay my parents-in-law (40m / kw) and I will pull it too. And you put up equipment from 300 to almost 500 for me, too big difference in price to compare them.
    My EGBL188KB is also bought in the casto for maybe 360 PLN.


    I have put together the suggested screwdrivers + a few Boschs. It is known that I did not want to compare GSR140LI to Black Decker. I only compare the Bosch GSR-1080 to me as a screwdriver at the same price level. I only compare parameters, I did not test them and I did not find any tests. If you said that you had GSR-1080 in your hands and did not do it (he screwed up much less screws), I would like to support your proposal, but I only have to compare the screwdrivers on the basis of the parameters given by the manufacturer. Just yesterday I came back from a weekend trip and met a type with my little workshop where my attention was immediately caught by a GSR-1080 screwdriver. I asked for opinions, and said that although it seems small it has good power, and the batteries hold for a very long time (with home rework recently loaded 2 months ago), it loads very quickly and is generally very pleased with it. Although it is known, the assessment is also subjective.

    freebsd wrote:
    For two seasons (mainly in the summer) I use a small drilla battery (1.3 Ah) and low power (20 Nm or 30 Nm - depending on the source) - at least in relation to the above. This season I bought a second one, the same. The proverb says that the head does not hurt from the tent (parameters), but do you need such a cool screwdrivers for DIY and small repairs?


    I'm sure there will be enough DIY for me and something for PLN 100, but I never know what I will come up with. Maybe in the moderately distant future, I will start building a house or something else. I was tempted at 50Nm, because in that time I know that I will do it almost anything that may come to my mind in the future. There are 50Nm screwdrivers at a lower price, but only Bosch has the same protection as I mentioned above. Since you think that 70% of the screwdriver's price is the price of batteries, it is wise to invest in a system that takes care of the most valuable element, which is the battery.

    At the end I will ask the question again because maybe not everyone reads everything.
    Does anyone know what his name is or where to buy the impact wrench adapter?

    greetings
  • #13 16734662
    gradek83
    Level 42  
    korky wrote:
    He always tempts, but he does not need it. Besides, I found an interesting solution. My colleague, when he heard about it, bought a screwdriver, he recommended a impact screwdriver ... Well, from the word to the word I came to the point that it was a wrench. I checked what it was and found out that in total it would have been possible to make such an impact adapter for the impact wrench ... Of course, it turns out that I have not discovered America and will not earn millions again:


    If I have a baked or glued thread, I last dealt with heating a small burner from PROXXON with a screw and setting the power of the screwdriver to 10 then it skips, so we have such a small UDAR but it is known for larger screws this adapter is just right.

    Mentioned GSB 180-LI from what they write is just a stroke.


  • #14 16734691
    mychaj
    Level 35  
    In addition to this I will also have a GSR18-2-LI service but I have it used after another service and I know that she had a hard life after the purchase,
    I use it occasionally to self-tapping screws and threading sometimes with rivet nuts as they are painted over.
    I do not see the differences too much - plus for bosch: he has a diode and the b-decker is not :-)
    can you search for the term "snapper"?
  • #15 16734926
    gradek83
    Level 42  
    Under this model or other conventional screwdrivers I have not found a dedicated adapter only something like this is for the model GSR 18 V-EC FC2 impact socket BOSCH GHA FC2 Bosch FlexiClick system 5 in 1

    Best Screwdriver Under 450 PLN: BOSCH GSR 1080-2-LI for Wood & Metal Use - 30Nm Power & Comfort Best Screwdriver Under 450 PLN: BOSCH GSR 1080-2-LI for Wood & Metal Use - 30Nm Power & Comfort
  • #16 16734998
    alfsky
    Level 10  
    gradek83 wrote:
    Under this model or other conventional screwdrivers I have not found a dedicated adapter only something like this is for the model GSR 18 V-EC FC2 impact socket BOSCH GHA FC2 Bosch FlexiClick system 5 in 1

    Best Screwdriver Under 450 PLN: BOSCH GSR 1080-2-LI for Wood & Metal Use - 30Nm Power & Comfort Best Screwdriver Under 450 PLN: BOSCH GSR 1080-2-LI for Wood & Metal Use - 30Nm Power & Comfort


    There is also GSR 12V-15 FC, GSR 14,4v-ec fc2 model. Sam suffers from this screwdriver, but more because of the angular and eccentric heads than the stroke. But for now casastorama works and repaired batteries for Dewalt.
  • #17 16735381
    korky
    Level 13  
    [Quote = "gradek83"]
    korky wrote:

    Mentioned GSB 180-LI from what they write is just a stroke.




    But this is probably a front-to-back stroke, and not a rotary stroke, am I wrong? this snap-in which I mentioned gives a kick at 1/4 turn, accumulating energy in the spring being pulled.

    mychaj wrote:

    can you search for the term "snapper"?


    I tried everything, adapter, socket, adapter. English jumps under the impact wrench adapter, impact head, but you can not buy anywhere. I read on a forum that people demand it, but it disappeared completely from the market. Weird. Perhaps the manufacturer of the impact keys bought the patent and silenced the case. Although strange, because China never took any patents, and there is nowhere on aliexpress :( :( :(

    gradek83 wrote:
    Under this model or other conventional screwdrivers I have not found a dedicated adapter only something like this is for the model GSR 18 V-EC FC2 impact socket BOSCH GHA FC2 Bosch FlexiClick system 5 in 1



    alfsky wrote:

    There is also GSR 12V-15 FC, GSR 14,4v-ec fc2 model. Sam suffers from this screwdriver, but more because of the angular and eccentric heads than the stroke. But for now casastorama works and repaired batteries for Dewalt.



    No nice screwdriver, nice adapters :D I watched her, but the price ceiling was a bit higher :D
  • #19 16737249
    korky
    Level 13  
    Bosch does not have the option of an impact wrench adapter / adapter. I received an email reply directly from them.
    BOSCH GHA FC2 is simply a mechanical impact hammer, the same is true for the GSR 18 V-EC FC2.
    There is no available magic adapter on the market, production ended in 2012, which is a pity, because he collected positive reviews. On aliexpress, you could buy it for $ 2 and have a percussive wrench with a screwdriver. Someone apparently did not like it much.
    Ultimately, I am buying the GSR 140-LI, or I am tempted for an additional GSR18-2-LI impact for 50 PLN more.

    If there is no one else to add anymore, I will close the topic in a while.

Topic summary

The discussion centers around selecting a suitable screwdriver under 450 PLN, with a focus on the BOSCH GSR 1080-2-LI model. Users express concerns about torque capacity, particularly the 30Nm rating, and its adequacy for home use, primarily for screwing wood and occasional metal drilling. Recommendations include alternative models like the BOSCH GSR 140-LI and GSR 180-LI, which offer higher torque (up to 54Nm) and additional features such as battery protection systems. Users highlight the importance of battery capacity and charging time, noting that lower capacity batteries may hinder prolonged use. The conversation also touches on the availability of impact adapters for enhanced functionality, although some users report difficulty finding these accessories. Overall, the consensus leans towards opting for models with higher torque and better battery management for more demanding tasks.
Summary generated by the language model.
ADVERTISEMENT