Mitsubishi Colt CZC Convertible: Roof Issue, Intermittent Beeping, Non-Responsive Buttons

Hello, I am about to buy a colt convertible, but there is a problem with the roof, namely it does not open, after opening the car it beeps (squeaking intermittently), for 5 minutes, after turning the key it starts squeaking again, the roof does not responds to any buttons. Has anyone encountered such a problem what could be damaged and will it be an expensive repair?

Hello. The alarm probably has to be liquidated or repaired and the roof control installation to be checked. As for the costs, it is difficult to say the different prices in the workshops.

PITERRR wrote:

Hello. The alarm probably has to be liquidated or repaired and the roof control installation to be checked. As for the costs, it is difficult to say the different prices in the workshops.

Can an alarm block the roof? I understand that you can't fix it yourself

Would you have to have an installation diagram for this Colt as you know it in this field?

I do not have the schematic, unless it is available somewhere on the internet.
As for electronics, I'm not that green and I could solder something in the controller, etc., if I found parts

Then look for the electrical diagram of this Colt.

PITERRR wrote:

Then look for the electrical diagram of this Colt.

Ok, I'll be looking, maybe I'll find it. Thanks for your interest in the topic

Do not take it when it does not work, spare parts as what you will not find, documentation will probably also, and you will wait for weeks and the repair value will exceed the value of the car.

Ireneo wrote:

Do not take it when it does not work, spare parts as what you will not find, documentation will probably also, and you will wait for weeks and the repair value will exceed the value of the car.

There is nothing about this model and it is also difficult to buy something, so I thought not to get into the mine with this car. Tomorrow I will think about the topic and see more cars

Mina is with this roof. On the fingers of one hand I think to look for such in Poland, so forget the parts for the roof and the knowledge of our ASO may also surprise you unpleasantly.

Ireneo wrote:

Mina is with this roof. On the fingers of one hand I think to look for such in Poland, so forget the parts for the roof and the knowledge of our ASO may also surprise you unpleasantly.

Exactly why I rather let go, it will be better to buy 206 cc and everything is working. A car for a woman

Hello again, but I found this Colt because there was no other choice and the price was also good The problem with the roof is that the windows go down the hatch opens and it starts squeaking at the end. He does not raise the hatch, when I let go and press the button, they had something in the tailgate lock. I press the second button to close the roof, you can hear that the hydraulic pump turns on and tightens until two beeps signal that the roof has been closed. It turns out that the pump does not want to proceed with the opening of the roof, and it works the other way. I got into the driver, installation, pump, etc. What could be the problem? I will add that I checked all the microstats and they work.

I saw such a car the only time I was at the training in Warsaw, when the new Colts were launched and CZC was among them. Generally, it would be necessary to connect with a factory tester, i.e. MUT III, because the roof locking system in this car has a rather extensive diagnosis, only the current parameters for controlling opening / closing are several dozen.
To carry out an emergency, i.e. manual opening and closing of the roof to eliminate a mechanical problem, unfortunately I will not say the procedure because I do not remember it, it was quite annoying and complicated. I do remember, however, that to release the latches / security of the roof mechanism located on the sides of the rear seat, the sticks of the pushers from the Polonez were helpful. To begin with, two concepts should be adopted:
- a car after an accident with a damaged roof mechanism
- damaged mechanism due to too much luggage in the boot and damage / deformation or destruction of the roof mechanisms when closing it
CZC was created in cooperation with Pinifarina.
Start with the scratching / jumping you write about. If the tailgate does not reach the specified position, further procedure is suspended.

andexp wrote:

I saw such a car the only time I was at the training in Warsaw, when the new Colts were launched and CZC was among them. Generally, it would be necessary to connect with a factory tester, i.e. MUT III, because the roof locking system in this car has a rather extensive diagnosis, only the current parameters for controlling opening / closing are several dozen.
To carry out an emergency, i.e. manual opening and closing of the roof to eliminate a mechanical problem, unfortunately I will not say the procedure because I do not remember it, it was quite annoying and complicated. I do remember, however, that to release the latches / security of the roof mechanism located on the sides of the rear seat, the sticks of the pushers from the Polonez were helpful. To begin with, two concepts should be adopted:
- a car after an accident with a damaged roof mechanism
- damaged mechanism due to too much luggage in the boot and damage / deformation or destruction of the roof mechanisms when closing it
CZC was created in cooperation with Pinifarina.
Start with the scratching / jumping you write about. If the tailgate does not reach the specified position, further procedure is suspended.

Thanks for the answer.
Namely, yesterday I dismantled the tailgate lock and there was a damaged opening servo in it, it did not come back. I undressed them, there was a broken spring like in the watch "winding", I fixed it, the servo comes out and goes back. There is also a microswitch next to the lock, the same as everywhere else, which is probably part of the roof, pressed in when the servo closes the trunk and open when it opens.
Later, at the beginning, I disconnected the battery for a few minutes, plugged it in and tried to open the roof, so I press the roof opening button, the windows fall down, then they release the locks in the hatch and there is silence a few seconds later it starts squeaking and at the end, I can only pull the hatch with the second button from closing. The pump just doesn't start to lift the hatch and hide the roof. I was thinking about the driver maybe corrupted. Connecting to the computer will show an error?
Never crashed the car, everything with the mechanisms looks fine.
Maybe there are some sensors somewhere that do not demand. I have no idea, this is my first convertible at home and so I try to see everything as far as I know.
I would like to add that the voltage on the pump goes only when you need to tighten the damper with the second button, no tension is shown when unfolding. Only 4V is on it all the time.
It comes with 4 cables, 2 thicker, i.e. power and mass, and 2 thinner green ones

I checked and Autodata did not have any diagrams for CZC, I also do not have a service center for it. Everything I knew about CZC I wrote in the previous post. Try to go to an Authorized Service Center and talk like a person to a person, preferably with a service manager. Even if they do not want to take it to the workshop, maybe they will help you with documentation, it is only one CD. Each website has documentation discs for older models, the question is whether anyone still remembers about it. He had to buy them because that is what the Japanese wanted and each ASO got a package with several dozen CDs and a neat stand and a VAT invoice.
You can also try on Russian forums or on Mitsumaniaki.

Ok, thanks for your help, soon I'm going to connect the car to the computer, maybe something will come out.
The worst thing is that I don't have a mitsubishi service anywhere
I will fight it, maybe it will be possible, and if not, I will be looking for an ASO

Added after 4 [hours] 47 [minutes]:

The problem is solved, the wires that go in the bundle jacket from the roof were cut. They were responsible for 2 microstats in the trunk lock + as I previously repaired the lock servo and now everything is spinning

It's great that it worked

Hello
It's been a while since the last message, but maybe someone will reply
I bought a colt but the roof does not open.
the rear window drive was damaged, I fixed it, I connected it to the computer, I taught the window opening cycle and that's it
when he wants to open the roof with the button, nothing happens, he just squeaks once for 3 seconds, the closing button squeaks three times briefly
At the beginning it had 15 errors, only one B2864 PWR was left. Striker HALLSNS: SHT This GND probably means a short to ground only where?
Maybe someone I greet something