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Rear View Camera in Seat Leon 2 - Stops Working When Engine Starts: Connection & Wiring Issues

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  • #1 16743750
    joealex1972
    Level 7  
    Hello, I connected the reversing camera in Seat Leon 2 - the red one to the reversing lamp, the black one to the ground of the car under the screw, the video to the multimedia station. I turn the key, put the car in reverse, the camera gives an image, I start the car - the image with a black stripe and I can`t see anything. I will add that the video cable has red wires on both ends of the cable, a few centimeters each, the video cable is 6 meters long, which is not mentioned in the manual, only the control cable. What could be the reason? Thank you in advance.
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  • #2 16744139
    piotrekwoj1
    Level 43  
    And in reverse order, first fire backward later?
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  • #3 16746626
    Anonymous
    Level 1  
  • #4 16746678
    joealex1972
    Level 7  
    No image is how I start the engine as I turn the key and turn on the power then the image is suspected of interference caused by the running engine
  • #5 16746682
    Anonymous
    Level 1  
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  • #6 17439855
    lykaw
    Level 10  
    Hello. I have the same problem in passat b6 1.9 tdi. In addition, I have a problem with the radio where it plays nicely but after starting the engine it loses the radio signal and plays but it hums.
    The camera is connected just like yours, i.e. the back to the metal plate and the power supply of the diodes and the camera to the rear light and on the front the instruction showed to connect with a red cable to pink but then there was no Signal only for a moment the picture was showing and I searched the videos to plug in go under the brake or pin No. 3 I did so but now the picture works nicely only on the engine off and after firing disappears ..
    Can you suggest how you solved your problem? And maybe you'll know something about the radio because I have everything connected there, including the separator, and after starting the engine, the radio signal weakens ..
  • #7 17439882
    LWD11
    Level 31  
    lykaw wrote:

    The camera is connected just like yours, i.e. the back plate is ground and the power supply of the diodes and the camera to the rear light


    Several responses to this camera behavior have already been given. Connect the power supply to the camera from a different source, not a reverse bulb. Use a relay connected to the reverse bulb that will power the webcam from a different power source.
  • #8 17439895
    lykaw
    Level 10  
    Yes, I saw that connect to another source, the problem is that as you can see I am a layman in these matters and I do everything for the first time really. Another power source, but please tell me where I can find this relay. Or should I buy it and pay it somewhere? I really do not know much about this topic and I understood another power source, because I do not know if any other can turn on the cam after driving the reverse gear ..
  • #9 17440531
    piotrekwoj1
    Level 43  
    You buy a relay and connect 30 to the power after ignition 87 to camera 85 to ground and 86 to the rear lamp. It's the whole philosophy.
  • #10 17440540
    Anonymous
    Level 1  
  • #11 17440546
    piotrekwoj1
    Level 43  
    zrachwal84 wrote:
    The relay can be heard, not better on two transistors?

    Without exaggeration, this will not be the only relay in this car.
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  • #12 17440549
    Anonymous
    Level 1  
  • #13 17440557
    piotrekwoj1
    Level 43  
    zrachwal84 wrote:
    Do not forget about the diode on the relay coil

    And what's the diode for?
  • #14 17440560
    Anonymous
    Level 1  
  • #15 17440697
    lykaw
    Level 10  
    Thank you gentlemen, I have already checked dry connecting a separate camera to a plus and works nicely on a running engine ? thanks a lot to you all. I will look somewhere like this diode and connect it to be sure.
    Have a nice weekend everyone ?
  • #16 20967215
    danielpawlowski49
    Level 6  

    Hello, how did you connect the camera and the cable to the radio?

    Moderated By damiancz:

    Archived topic - no discussion has taken place there for over a year. Only add a reply if you have a tip to add.


  • #17 20967222
    DiZMar
    Level 43  
    danielpawlowski49 wrote:
    Hello, how did you connect the camera and the cable to your computer?

    After over 5 years you ask? Are you an archaeologist?
  • #18 20967226
    danielpawlowski49
    Level 6  

    I don't have the same problem in the 508
    When the ignition is turned on, it goes out after starting. I connected it to the bulb and in the radio to the brown back

    Moderated By damiancz:

    Excavation site and another type of car - create your own new topic.
    Remember to include the type of radio in the subject line.


  • #19 20967242
    m2606
    Level 33  
    Konto nie istnieje wrote:
    so that the voltage induced when the relay is turned off does not damage the control elements.

    What control? Reverse gear sensor?
    The freewheeling diode is not necessary in this case, as are probably the relays.
    In my opinion, the problem is a bad connection, not the power supply.
    Does the radio/display have a handbrake output?
    I don`t know what you have installed there, but many devices prevent you from watching movies if the car doesn`t have the heel on, so that you don`t have to do it while driving.
    The second option is a cable that should be connected to the signal from the reverse gear sensor. If so, it should be connected because the video will be blocked.
    If there are more video inputs, check all of them, and first read the instructions and look at the diagram.
    Radio settings also matter because the connector can be configured from the panel.
  • #20 20967509
    damiancz
    Moderator of Car Radios
    6-year excavation - I`m closing it.

Topic summary

✨ The discussion revolves around issues with a rear view camera installed in a Seat Leon 2, which functions correctly when the engine is off but displays a black stripe when the engine starts. Users suggest that the problem may stem from improper power supply connections, particularly the camera being powered from the reverse lamp. Recommendations include powering the camera from a different source using a relay connected to the reverse lamp, ensuring proper grounding, and checking for interference caused by the engine. Additional insights mention the importance of checking connections and settings on the multimedia system, as well as the potential need for a diode to protect the relay circuit.

FAQ

TL;DR: Fix “camera works on key, dies after start” by powering the camera via a 4‑pin relay (30/87/85/86). “It’s the whole philosophy.” [Elektroda, piotrekwoj1, post #17440531]

Why it matters: This FAQ helps DIY installers solve start‑up black screens and noisy images without tearing apart factory wiring in VAG cars and beyond.

Quick Facts

Why does my rear camera work with ignition on but go black after the engine starts?

Engine cranking and alternator noise stress weak power feeds. Reverse bulbs are PWM or thinly wired, so camera voltage sags and the image drops. Use the reverse bulb only as a trigger and power the camera from a clean ignition source through a relay. “Connect the power supply to the camera from a different source.” [Elektroda, LWD11, post #17439882]

How do I wire a relay to power the camera correctly?

Use a standard 4‑pin relay. 1) Connect 30 to ignition‑switched +12 V. 2) Connect 87 to the camera +12 V. 3) Connect 85 to ground and 86 to the reverse‑lamp positive as the trigger. This isolates the camera from lamp noise while auto‑enabling in reverse. [Elektroda, piotrekwoj1, post #17440531]

Do I need a flyback diode on the relay coil?

Yes. Place a diode across the coil (85–86), band toward +12 V. It clamps the inductive spike when the relay releases, protecting switches, modules, or head units. “So that the voltage induced when the relay is turned off does not damage the control elements.” [Elektroda, Anonymous, post #17440560]

Can I power the camera directly from the reverse light circuit?

Avoid it. Lamp lines can be PWM‑driven or monitored, and voltage can dip as the engine starts. This causes black screens or stripes. Route stable power via ignition and switch it with a relay triggered by the reverse lamp. [Elektroda, Anonymous, post #16746626]

Is my issue interference or low voltage? How can I tell fast?

Test with a separate fused +12 V feed straight from the battery or ignition while keeping the reverse lamp as the trigger. If the image holds with the engine running, the fault was the original power source. This simple A/B test confirmed the fix in the thread. [Elektroda, lykaw, post #17440697]

What is a freewheeling (flyback) diode in this context?

It’s a diode wired across the relay coil that absorbs the coil’s collapsing magnetic field. Without it, the coil’s voltage spike can stress or glitch control electronics. A small general‑purpose diode is sufficient for this use. [Elektroda, Anonymous, post #17440560]

My radio loses FM and hums after start—related to the camera wiring?

Likely shared. Poor grounds and noisy lamp‑sourced power can degrade RF reception and inject audio hum once the alternator charges. Moving camera power to a clean ignition feed and using proper grounding often restores stable radio performance. [Elektroda, lykaw, post #17439855]

Do I need transistors instead of a relay?

No. A relay is robust, simple, and inaudible in a car full of relays. Solid‑state switching is possible, but adds complexity. “This will not be the only relay in this car.” [Elektroda, piotrekwoj1, post #17440546]

What do relay pins 30, 87, 85, and 86 mean here?

Pin 30 is the common feed from ignition +12 V. Pin 87 goes to the camera +12 V. Pin 85 goes to ground. Pin 86 receives the reverse‑lamp +12 V to energize the coil. This mapping matches common automotive relays. [Elektroda, piotrekwoj1, post #17440531]

How long can my RCA video cable be? Will 6 m work?

Yes. A 6 m RCA run is typical in hatchbacks and compact sedans. Keep it away from high‑current cables and ensure solid grounds. Focus on powering the camera from a stable source; long power runs with thin wire cause drop. [Elektroda, joealex1972, post #16743750]

My head unit shows video only with engine off. Could settings block it?

Yes. Many units require a valid reverse trigger and, for safety, a handbrake input. Miswired or disabled triggers can blank video while driving. Check the diagram and input assignment in settings, then re‑test. [Elektroda, m2606, post #20967242]

Will this relay‑power method help on cars other than the Seat Leon 2?

Yes. Users reported the same symptom on Passat B6 and Peugeot 508. The relay approach and separate power feed resolved the camera dropout after start. The principle is vehicle‑agnostic. [Elektroda, lykaw, post #17439855]

Where do I physically put the relay and diode?

Mount the relay near the head unit or fusebox to shorten the clean power run. Keep the diode across the relay coil pins at the relay base for best suppression. Secure all grounds to clean metal. [Elektroda, piotrekwoj1, post #17440531]

I connected the front red wire to a pink wire and lost signal—what did I miss?

That front “red” is usually a reverse trigger lead. It must see the true reverse signal, not a random accessory wire. Use the reverse sensor/lamps as the trigger and power the camera via a relay-fed ignition source. [Elektroda, lykaw, post #17439855]

Quick 3‑step fix summary?

  1. Take ignition‑switched +12 V to relay pin 30; add fuse. 2. Relay 87 to camera +12 V; camera ground to clean chassis. 3. Reverse‑lamp +12 V to relay 86; relay 85 to ground; add flyback diode across 85–86. [Elektroda, piotrekwoj1, post #17440531]
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