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Vw Passat B5 FL AVF engine - Intake problems - hole and full of oil.

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  • #1 16761992
    electro_Nick
    Level 33  
    As in the topic - this engine brings me to the so-called shoemaker's passion, it is clearly audible that air is escaping from the intake somewhere, notlauf enters, but I have no idea where from. I will add that the previous owner microchipped it and probably loads more than normal. Both lower snakes replaced a couple of months ago. You can see that the oil is dripping somewhere under the S connection from the intercooler to the plastic inlet, but the hose removed and viewed many times does not look damaged (in the lower ones you could see white reinforcement threads in the place of damage) or this plastic has some weak spots? intake check? You cannot hear or feel anything without a load when stationary. The next thing that worries me is the large amount of oil in the inlet - about 100ml of oil is lost every 1000km and I suspect that 90ml is running out of the inlet, all joints are pouring and there are 3 oil dots in every place where it parks. Can you do anything sensible with it? Is it the fault of weak rings or what is it? Thank you for any help on the topic.
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  • #2 16762236
    Somebody22
    Level 12  
    First, check the engine venting (odme), it can do a good job. Secondly, the turbine. It can overload and leak - drains oil.
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  • #3 16762238
    Jamrug
    Level 17  
    Well, replace the IC. When he gets pressure, it unseals. You can't catch it at idle.
  • #4 16762255
    electro_Nick
    Level 33  
    The turbo was regenerated a few months ago, it certainly spits oil, but what can you do about it? I read everywhere that this is the case and even after replacing the cover in a few months it is the same. As for the IC, maybe it's a good lead, but there is not even a drop of oil on it - and I think it should be if it was going that way.
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  • #5 16765217
    Somebody22
    Level 12  
    Look for a problem in the tightness of the engine.
    See if any compression is getting through the unit injectors or valve guides. Eventually, compression can leak through seized, leaky piston rings.
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  • #6 16765684
    electro_Nick
    Level 33  
    Somebody22 wrote:
    Look for a problem in the tightness of the engine.
    See if any compression is getting through the unit injectors or valve guides. Eventually, compression can leak through seized, leaky piston rings.

    Is it going to be measured / checked somehow? Do you just have to replace the seals and rings and see if it helped?
  • #8 16766499
    Somebody22
    Level 12  
    Compression measurement on individual cylinders through glow plug holes. Then you just repeat that with a little bit of oil added to the cylinder. But the unit injectors are often leaky.
  • #9 16766657
    electro_Nick
    Level 33  
    A small update - I located a hole in the inlet, it turned out that the turbo pipe on the front has a hole for 2-3 fingers, even though it was replaced a few months ago ... . Now, the question - can it be replaced without disassembling half the car? I can pick it up at work and even put it on pallets, tools and workshop facilities without any problem.
  • #10 16766794
    Somebody22
    Level 12  
    You will make your task easier by lowering the front belt into the working position. But this hole is more likely to come from something. In general, rubber does not like oil. Perhaps the steering wheel in the grandstand is seized or badly adjusted.
  • #11 16766805
    electro_Nick
    Level 33  
    Somebody22 wrote:
    You will make your task easier by lowering the front belt into the working position. But this hole is more likely to come from something. In general, rubber does not like oil. Perhaps the steering wheel in the grandstand is seized or badly adjusted.

    Is it possible that the intercooler gets clogged? What is there to do, then, to correct the factory with some relief valve?
  • #12 16767184
    Somebody22
    Level 12  
    electro_Nick wrote:

    Is it possible that the intercooler gets clogged? What is there to do, then, to correct the factory with some relief valve?


    Possible oil clogging. Then you can rinse it, ie Wash it, for example, extraction gasoline, etc. Dry it later. It is best then to wash the entire intake. But that excess oil somehow gets into it. Zaturbin is normal with some oil vapors. But if there is too much of it, it is a problem. I have given you possible information on how this oil can get. The simplest is an emphysema, but the turbo can also pour oil. Generally, if there is too much oil in the inlet, it is even possible to do so. engine self-ignition.
  • #13 16767197
    sk700
    Level 31  
    Somebody22 wrote:
    Generally, if there is too much oil in the inlet, it is even possible to do so. engine self-ignition.

    Runaway, not auto-ignition :)
  • #14 16767253
    AutoSerwis
    Level 11  
    Check the air guides in the turbine, if they are dirty, it will also overload.
  • #15 16767289
    Somebody22
    Level 12  
    sk700 wrote:
    Somebody22 wrote:
    Generally, if there is too much oil in the inlet, it is even possible to do so. engine self-ignition.

    Runaway, not auto-ignition :)

    Exactly. Because self-ignition in diesel is its principle of operation :)
  • #16 16767846
    electro_Nick
    Level 33  
    Turbo, as I wrote, was regenerated six months ago, so the oil is most likely from a pneumothorax, because even on this valve connecting odme with the intake there is oil. If I have to replace the charging hoses every three months, thank you for such a dumper. This is how I look, without pulling the front of the intercooler I will not pull it out, unless I simply disconnect it from the hoses and rinse it with the extraction one. Overall never again VAG ...

Topic summary

✨ The discussion revolves around intake problems in a VW Passat B5 FL with an AVF engine, specifically concerning air leaks and excessive oil in the intake system. The user reports audible air escaping from the intake and significant oil loss, approximately 100ml every 1000km. Responses suggest checking the engine venting (ODME), inspecting the turbo for leaks, and considering the intercooler (IC) for pressure issues. A follow-up reveals a hole in the turbo pipe, prompting questions about replacement without extensive disassembly. Additional advice includes checking engine tightness, measuring compression, and cleaning the intercooler to address potential oil clogging. The conversation highlights the challenges of maintaining the vehicle and the user's frustration with frequent repairs.
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FAQ

TL;DR: Owner reports ~100 ml oil loss per 1,000 km and notes “You cannot hear or feel anything without a load when stationary.” Likely causes: crankcase ventilation (ODME) issues, turbo oiling, or pressure leaks at hoses/IC. [Elektroda, electro_Nick, post #16761992]

Why it matters: This FAQ helps VW Passat B5 FL AVF TDI owners quickly diagnose boost leaks and oil-in-intake problems without guesswork.

Quick Facts

How do I find a boost leak if I only hear it while driving?

Pressurize the system and inspect hoses, the S-connection, and the intercooler end tanks. Leaks often appear only under load, so idle tests miss them. “You can’t catch it at idle.” Focus on joints that oil has softened. Replace any suspect couplers. [Elektroda, Jamrug, post #16762238]

I found a big hole (about 2–3 fingers) in the front turbo pipe—what next?

Replace the damaged charge hose and check adjacent clamps and brackets for rubbing points. Reinspect all lower “snakes,” since prior failures suggest systemic stress or oil-softened rubber. After replacement, road-test under load and recheck for fresh oil mist at joints. [Elektroda, electro_Nick, post #16766657]

Can I replace boost hoses without tearing down the whole front end?

Yes. Drop the front end into the service/working position to gain clearance. Inspect for causes of the hole, because oil degrades rubber. Correct any misalignment or interference that could abrade the new hose during boost events. [Elektroda, Somebody22, post #16766794]

Why is there so much oil in my intake even after turbo regeneration?

Two common sources are ODME (crankcase ventilation) and the turbo passing oil. Check the ODME valve and lines first, then verify turbo outlet for fresh oil film. Addressing both prevents repeat hose failures and oil pooling in the intercooler. [Elektroda, Somebody22, post #16762236]

What is ODME (odma) on a PD TDI?

ODME is the engine’s crankcase ventilation. It routes vapors into the intake. If restricted or failed, it increases oil carryover, wetting hoses and the intercooler. Fix ODME issues before blaming the turbo alone. [Elektroda, Somebody22, post #16762236]

How do I compression-test the AVF engine through glow plug holes?

Remove glow plugs and measure compression per cylinder. Repeat after adding a small amount of oil to each cylinder; a rise suggests ring sealing issues. Note: unit injectors on PD engines often leak, affecting results. [Elektroda, Somebody22, post #16766499]

Could a clogged intercooler cause overboost or leaks?

Yes. Oil can clog the intercooler and increase restriction. Rinse the intercooler and intake plumbing with extraction gasoline, then dry thoroughly before reassembly. “It is best then to wash the entire intake.” [Elektroda, Somebody22, post #16767184]

Can dirty turbo vanes make the AVF overboost?

Yes. Check the turbo’s variable vane mechanism. If the air guides are dirty or sticky, the turbo can overboost and stress hoses and the intercooler. Clean or service the vane assembly as needed. [Elektroda, AutoSerwis, post #16767253]

Is it safe to drive with oil leaking from the intake?

No. Excess oil in the intake can feed the engine and cause a runaway. Fix ODME and turbo oiling, clean the intercooler, and eliminate leaks before heavy load. This protects the engine and hoses. [Elektroda, Somebody22, post #16767184]

How do I rinse a Passat B5 FL intercooler safely?

  1. Disconnect both intercooler hoses and drain the collected oil.
  2. Flush the core with extraction gasoline until clear; do not shake violently.
  3. Allow complete drying before reinstalling, then clean connected intake pipes. [Elektroda, Somebody22, post #16767184]

What does “Oil Test” mean in this context?

A member suggests searching for an oil analysis/test to assess engine condition. Use it to check contamination or abnormal wear indicators while diagnosing intake oiling. [Elektroda, sk700, post #16766021]

Why can’t I hear leaks at idle on this TDI?

Boost pressure at idle is low, so weak joints stay sealed. Under load, pressure rises and opens small splits or loose couplers. Road-load or pressurize the system to find the leak. [Elektroda, Jamrug, post #16762238]

Six months after turbo regeneration, I still see oil at the ODME-to-intake valve—normal?

Some oil mist after regeneration can persist, but visible pooling or rapid hose failure is not normal. Trace the ODME line and valve for wetness, then reassess turbo outlet for fresh oil. The poster saw this six months post-regeneration. [Elektroda, electro_Nick, post #16767846]

What else could cause repeated hose failures?

Investigate interference and alignment near the charge pipes. Oil-softened rubber tears easily. Correct any misadjusted components that can rub or pinch hoses during engine movement and boost events. [Elektroda, Somebody22, post #16766794]
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