Battery charger Ctek mxs 5.0 or maybe mxs 5.0 Polar Edytion ??

Hello dear colleagues ..

I have a dilemma ... I decided to buy Ctek mxs 5.0.

Only now I am thinking about the second version of Ctek mxs 5.0 POLAR

Do they differ in addition to the working temperature? Normal Ctek has -20 degrees and POLAR -30 degrees ... which is better to buy? The small difference POLAR is a bit more expensive. I also noticed in the usual Ctek no snowflake icon, but there is an AGM icon what better to have in this AGM charger, whether snowflake or a program for low temperatures or maybe one and the same?


Greetings...

AGM is the type / type of battery and the device gives a little bit of current for charging. I do not know what these currents are in the latter, with the snowflake.
Look at the table (red selection):



From this description, it would appear that this "winter" gives a little bit of tension:

Well, the voltage is not much different from what I see 14.7va 15v and winter will definitely need to charge the battery this POLAR is a little more expensive money is worth investing or is not worth it because the difference between the two chargers? I wonder what winter will be because like over 20 in the red, the ordinary one can already have a hard time ...

I use this "ordinary", not "winter", but the fact I use only in the garage and the garage is "slightly" heated (one small radiator and central heating), so I do not know how it would work outside during the frost. But in general it fulfills its task, in the opinion of it as "good". The longest period of time when it was connected to a battery is over a month during my absence "because the battery is weak" and after two weeks of "inactivity" no longer had the power to turn off. After returning the battery was ready for use without any problems.

And this ctek mxs 5.0 just how are you doing? What batteries do you load? How much does it land? And how does the battery behave after charging with mxs 5.0? And I have one more question, is this charger strongly heated during work? I know that I ask a lot of questions but I am planning to buy this model or POLAR and I want to deal with someone who has such a device or used it ..

Added after 1 [hour] 32 [minutes]:

I have one more question Is it not the same thing as the snowflake in the Ctek Trim? And is it possible to switch on the AGM mode at low temp instead of the ctek polar snieek?

As for now, he is doing well, even very well. Usually the battery from its "wagon" 45 ampere hours, ordinary acid-free maintenance, (now for a long period I have peace because the battery is new), the largest connected is 80 ampere-hours. Mostly I plugged in at night and in the morning the battery was recharged just like the charger "predicts" The charging voltage is usually 12.6 V. The old Recond rechargeable battery lasted a month without recharging, normally it's max week, but it's the fault of the battery (7 years used). The charger warms up, I do not even know, I did not check it, but it is fixed in a dedicated holder on the wall and I did not feel any heating there.



And rather, it does not heat up and if it is minimal. At the battery I have this plug from the equipment and I have an extension of the charging cable, so that is enough to lift the mask, plug in the plug and plug the charger into the mains socket.

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lukaszpiast wrote:

Is it not the same thing as the snowflake in the Ctek Trim? And is it possible to switch on the AGM mode at low temp instead of the ctek polar snieek?

Well, I do not know, you would have to ask the distributor somewhere, or somewhere in the technical department / customer service in Ctek ...

And what do you think about this charger I found in YATO today, weldman charge 80? only has a 2-year warranty and the product is 5 years old

You pay for the brand, and you get basically the same as for ladybug or Lidl for 50-60 PLN. For this money, I would prefer to buy a 30V 5A laboratory power supply and charge everything that goes under the arm.

Well, not necessarily because from what I heard after charging the battery charger ladybukki batteries for a long time after charging and never were the battery recharged just like the drug. And the brand, however, does its job and a 5-year warranty break this friend ...

Both rectifiers charge up to 14.5V in summer mode and 14.7V when we turn on the snowflake.
Both rectifiers do not recharge the battery up to 100%
I do not know what to raise here, since at the price of one rectifier you can buy 5-6 pcs of the second.
How many times in a year will you use 2-3?
For this there is some danger of switching on automatically, without the need for the RECOND function. The effects are, for example, a puddle of electrolyte under the car.

Wlodek22 wrote:

For this there is some danger of switching on automatically, without the need for the RECOND function. The effects are, for example, a puddle of electrolyte under the car.

I'm not a knower, but the possibility to throw out the electrolyte outside is probably (probably) gone. The RECOND function works while charging only for some time, it is only a certain stage in the charging cycle, it is probably connected with some measurement system in the charger what is the battery condition, because in one battery this stage works longer, in another shorter time and goes to the next stage which is identical and in charging with the RECOND function and in the "normal" charging. In addition, at the stage of RECOND, the "bubbling" of the battery is very minimal, you can hear (you almost can not hear) only very, very delicate "almost noises" so that you do not worry. Proven in use and practically. Charging on the RECOND function and forgotten that the charger connected, it was 4 days connected and only shining the seventh, green LED that the charging finished because the charger ascertains that the recharged battery goes into standby mode when the voltage drops and then it completes to the appropriate state. In this case, it probably will not "boil" the battery, unless during some failure of the charger, let's assume that this can happen. For me, the old battery was connected without a break for more than two months (except without the RECOND function) under the charger and after returning it was efficient and ready for use, neither a drop of electrolyte could leak.

https://www.elektroda.pl/rtvforum/topic3089626.html#15002051

It may be a puddle from this case, the link was for example from the cooling system or spraying is probably not an option that the charger itself has attached features from what I read about ctek 5 and the more there is no option even in recon so that the battery boils up until the electrolyte to pociekl, in my opinion something was damaged here either a ctek or a battery.

Maybe it was some dog that sealed the effective charge

Look closely at this guide. After charging for 3 minutes, the voltage drop analysis is in progress. As it falls below a certain threshold of 12.8-12.6V, the Rekond function is automatically activated and lasts from 2 to 6 hours. If you connect a new, charged battery, which is additionally charged in the car, charging it up to 14.5V will last very briefly, it will not be charging properly, the battery will not be "energized" as after a proper few hours of charging. The rectifier then proceeds to analyze a charged battery that has not been charged and has a voltage drop of up to 12.55V in less than 3 min, which is perfectly normal. And then you have a ride with a new, charged battery for 6 hours with 1.8 A current and 15.8 V voltage.

So I have to understand that if I have 12.5v - 12.8 volts on the battery, I can not connect the cipher because it will pass automatically after a while to the recond function? And what is the signal for changing the control to the recond function? What is your thesis supported by? Do you use a charger like this? From your application it results from ctek and the charging function of a regular battery (car) can land as the battery has 12.4vi below ??

Yes, you do not have to recharge charged batteries and you do not have to charge the batteries under load, i.e. installed in the car.
I do not have a cteka, and knowledge of seny's tests.
When the battery is healthy and actually charged a few hours, there is no way that the voltage on it falls below the threshold within these 3 minutes. For example, yesterday 22 I disconnected my jenox 77ah, at 10 am I had 13.05V, by 16 12.95V.

And ha understand, or charger is as much as possible only do not land charged batteries in a total logical he ... and tell me a friend who would be better to be an ordinary ctek mxs 5.0 or might a polar edytion ?? What is your opinion on these chargers? In total, there is little difference between the one having a snowflake and the other AGM options one is up to -20 and the other up to -30 .. and there is still a small question whether the AGM function in this ordinary charger can be made as snowflake with this charger polar edytion whether the same principle Is charging or what is it?

It's about money.
Generally, the battery should not be charged at temperatures below 0C, and the battery is already discharged at - 30C inside the usual ice ice. AGM is the same as winter mode and means voltage limit 14.7V instead of 14.5V.

Well, I will probably be charging the winter because I wonder if the POLAR version can be more resistant, it is more resistant to frost, etc ...

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since AGM is the same as a snowflake, why two different icons ??

I drive there by car - and thus I charge the battery while driving - at any temperature, also when it is cold, well below 0 degrees.

Recently I have CTEK MSX 5.0. According to of the manual, loading should be completed in step 7. For me it quickly reached stage 4 and stopped there. It does not go to the next steps. Acid battery.

I have the same in my rectifier, it also stops on the 4th program and that's it. Aku AGM motorcycle. Has anyone encountered such a problem?

I disconnected, reconnected and it went through all the steps.

eprom wrote:

also stops at the 4th program and that's it.

How long does it "stand"? Once I also thought that something was wrong (an ordinary acid battery, a bit worn out), but it took a few (maybe even a dozen, because I forgot about it) hours and moved on to 7 ...

For me, I tried to change with the Mode button, the LEDs suddenly start to go crazy. And you can hear converters. And when I remove the plug and put it back in, it will click and work properly, but only up to 4 LEDs and the inverter cannot be heard.

Wlodek22 wrote:

There is also a certain risk of it turning on automatically, without the need for the RECOND function. The consequences include, for example, a puddle of electrolyte under the car.

Sorry for the dig, but I have to correct this nonsense about "recond turning on automatically". I`m making it simple because the search result often appears in Google, and I don`t see the point in spreading fake news about charging with this particular device.
This charger is stupid, individual charging modes are activated by pressing the "mode" button. If you don`t choose Additionally recond mode, the charger goes through charging phases 1-5, skips 6. (i.e. recond) and goes to phase 7, and after 10 days to phase 8.

Quote from the manual:

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Select Recond to add a Recond step to the loading process. During regeneration, the voltage increases to cause controlled gassing in the battery. Gassing mixes the acid in the battery, restoring energy to it.

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In the Recond program, STEP 6 is added to the program for regular batteries.