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Kraft & Dele IGBT250 Welder: Switch Lit, No Fan or Display, Fuse Location?

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  • #1 16810317
    tbilski
    Level 10  
    Hi,
    This is the situation: patient Kraft & dele inverter welder. Symptom: does not start, the fan does not spin, does not display the current. Only the switch is lit when it is turned on. The switch is checked, lets go on. I can't see the fuse anywhere. Where to look What to check? Is it something simpler or rather direct to the website? I would like to point out right away that I do not have an oscilloscope or deeper electronic knowledge.

    Kraft & Dele IGBT250 Welder: Switch Lit, No Fan or Display, Fuse Location? Kraft & Dele IGBT250 Welder: Switch Lit, No Fan or Display, Fuse Location? Kraft & Dele IGBT250 Welder: Switch Lit, No Fan or Display, Fuse Location?
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  • #2 16811289
    skalsky5000
    Level 21  
    Check the board with the bridge, the white resistor and the relay on the capacitors should be ~ 320V DC.
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  • #3 16812616
    tbilski
    Level 10  
    Thanks. I checked on all 3 capacitors it is ok 340V. Anything else to diagnose?
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  • #4 16815388
    master250
    Level 22  
    Check that 330V DC voltage reaches the top plate.
    You probably have a damaged 24V DC auxiliary converter. If the voltage of 330 reaches the upper board, check your voltage to ground on the power supply of the UC3845 converter controller.
  • #5 16821705
    tbilski
    Level 10  
    Tension is coming up - I checked :) . If you help me find this inverter driver, I will measure it soon.
    Looking through the entire PCB at the top, I found two capacitors in the vicinity of which some leakage can be seen, of course quite dry. I don't know if this is normal and if it was like that from the beginning, unfortunately. Is it somehow verified?

    Kraft & Dele IGBT250 Welder: Switch Lit, No Fan or Display, Fuse Location? Kraft & Dele IGBT250 Welder: Switch Lit, No Fan or Display, Fuse Location?
  • #6 16821789
    stasiekb100
    Level 29  
    In such a model, the terminals of the primary winding of the auxiliary transformer burn out. Possibly a current measurement resistor of the primary winding of the auxiliary transformer. I do better without removing the auxiliary transformer.
  • #7 16821924
    master250
    Level 22  
    The driver is an 8 vertical chip mounted closest to the yellow pulse transformer of the auxiliary converter.
  • #8 16823182
    tbilski
    Level 10  
    Will this be the 8 pin scalak? Vcc will be on pin 1? That with mass?

    Kraft & Dele IGBT250 Welder: Switch Lit, No Fan or Display, Fuse Location?
  • #9 16823198
    stasiekb100
    Level 29  
    Have more something like that you have there. Kraft & Dele IGBT250 Welder: Switch Lit, No Fan or Display, Fuse Location?
  • #10 16823283
    tbilski
    Level 10  
    @ stasiekb100 Thanks for the diagram, but you overestimate my possibilities :) I will handle the measure, but I will not undertake the interpretation of the scheme and reference it to real ground without guidance :) .
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  • #11 17384366
    Pawu0206
    Level 8  
    Hello. The topic is a bit unearthed, I have an identical problem with the fact that the board is a bit different. Only the switch lights up when the power is connected. There is no voltage on the capacitors and also no voltage on the 24v relay. Does anyone have a diagram of this version specifically? Might Scalak be damaged? Oh, I would like to add that the welder stopped working after it fell over. I thought that some wire broke, but 230v is reaching the board.

    Kraft & Dele IGBT250 Welder: Switch Lit, No Fan or Display, Fuse Location?
  • #12 17384585
    Krzysztof Reszka
    Moderator of Electrical engineering
    Pawu0206 wrote:
    Does anyone have a diagram of this version specifically?

    stasiekb100 wrote:
    Have something more like that you have there

    What do you mean? If it concerns another problem, create a new topic.
  • #13 17384824
    Pawu0206
    Level 8  
    My point is that although it is the same model, the igbt250 differs in "interior". And the problem with the device is exactly the same. Analyzing the posts of my colleagues above, I came to the fact that I do not have voltage on the capacitors. And in the above posts it was. That's why I'm looking for tips on what to look for.
  • #14 17385525
    stasiekb100
    Level 29  
    Softstarter resistor, approximately 50 ohms, power 5 W or greater.
  • #15 17385694
    Pawu0206
    Level 8  
    Will it be a smd resistor or a regular one? Because I am looking and I cannot track. Will it be soft start in these attached plates?

    Kraft & Dele IGBT250 Welder: Switch Lit, No Fan or Display, Fuse Location?
  • #16 17395471
    star_vad
    Level 11  
    Pawu0206 wrote:
    Analyzing the posts of my colleagues above, I came to the fact that I do not have voltage on the capacitors.

    Hello.
    Measure the voltage across the capacitors and everything becomes clear. A soft start on this board is - the charge of the filter capacitors passes through the position signal (green around the relay), then a "small beep" on demand starts, then the relay turns on and the posistor closes the contacts. In the meantime, you don't know if you have a broken switch or positron or if your low power supply is not working. Also check the IGBT for serviceability.
    Pawu0206 wrote:
    Will it be a smd resistor or a regular one?

    Not exactly smd
  • #17 19322642
    Raku025
    Level 10  
    Hello, I have a question, on this board, the photos of which were sent by my friend Pawu, what are the two precise potentiometers sealed, located near the bone connecting the display and current setting potentiometers

Topic summary

The discussion revolves around troubleshooting a Kraft & Dele IGBT250 welder that fails to start, with symptoms including a lit switch, no fan operation, and no display of current. Users suggest checking the voltage on the capacitors, specifically looking for 330V DC on the upper board and verifying the functionality of the auxiliary converter. The presence of leakage on capacitors is noted, and potential issues with the primary winding of the auxiliary transformer and the inverter driver are discussed. Users also mention the importance of measuring voltages across components and checking for damaged resistors or IGBTs. A user with a similar issue seeks advice on a different board version, emphasizing the need for specific diagrams and troubleshooting steps.
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