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Water Meter Issue: High Consumption for 6 Months in Rented Flat despite Plumber's Inspection

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How can I verify whether an apartment water meter is faulty when water consumption has suddenly increased, and who should I contact?

Contact the housing cooperative, because the waterworks only handle the main meter and the external supply line, not the apartment’s internal installation or meter [#16827086][#16828341] If the apartment meter is suspected to be faulty, the cooperative should arrange inspection or replacement through the company that services the building’s water meters; you can also ask for the meter to be sent for metrological expertise at the office of measures and weights [#16827086][#16828341] A photo alone is usually not enough proof for the cooperative, so it helps to submit a written complaint about a meter fault and keep a copy with receipt [#16828341] One reply also noted that the meter’s mechanical counter does not normally “jump” from 61 to 72 by itself, so apparent changes can come from how the digits are viewed, while real increased consumption more likely points to a leak or actual usage increase [#16878540] If you replace the meter yourself while waiting, keep the current bills paid and save the meter and installation invoices for any later correction request [#16827086]
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  • #1 16826780
    xiabn
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    Hello
    I have a problem in the sense that I am renting a flat to one person for about 3 years and for a half a year increased water consumption, the case reported to the cooperative, there was a plumber and supposedly checked the installation but it took about 5 minutes. Today, the renter has sent me a photo of the meter and it seems to me that it should not indicate consumption?
    Water Meter Issue: High Consumption for 6 Months in Rented Flat despite Plumber's Inspection
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  • #2 16826927
    michalek1988
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    Who is the owner of a water meter? Water supply? Cooperative? http://forum.nikoniarze.pl/showthread.php?t=162494" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener ugc" class="postlink inline" title="" > link See this, in my opinion, the situation here can be analogous.
  • #3 16826961
    xiabn
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    michalek1988 wrote:
    Who is the owner of a water meter? Water supply? Cooperative? http://forum.nikoniarze.pl/showthread.php?t=162494" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener ugc" class="postlink inline" title="" > link See this, in my opinion, the situation here can be analogous.

    Thanks for the answer. I do not know who owns the meter, but it is possible that the cooperative because its employees deal with their exchange. This article shows that I should force the cooperative to send a meter to the producer. I will write an e-mail to them today, I will see how to address this idea, although I have the impression that in a moment, from a meter reading from 61 m3, it will jump to 72 m3: /
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  • #4 16826995
    michalek1988
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    Well, you can first call the waterworks and ask if they are managing the meter, and whether they can send a plumber who will confirm or exclude himself that the indication may be wrong. The person who sent the cooperative can be everything, hence only a quick inspection. For a cooperative, your photo may not be proof, but asking a plumber with permission to issue a certificate may change a lot in this situation. Water often flows from a dirty tap, eg yellow, hard etc.? This could cause the meter to become contaminated. You can also ask your neighbors to check the indications of your meters, because if the problem is with water and all have been replaced at the same time, then others may have this problem, but they have not noticed it yet. PS does not have to be a plumber, but cooperatives may find it harder to say that if you found someone else, that this is your friend and therefore gave you an opinion that will be beneficial for you, regardless of who manages the meter, I would immediately ask about whether and how it will be corrected (even overpayment for previous indications).
  • #5 16827086
    xiabn
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    I called the waterworks, the gentleman with whom I spoke said that they are only responsible for the main meter and do not interfere in internal installations, he suggested that in such a case I could send a counter to the expertise to the office of measures and weights. I guess I have nothing else to do but use this advice.
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  • #6 16827884
    michalek1988
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    It will take a while, and you can not stay without a meter, you can close the inflow on the main valve, but what a life without access to water. You are left with a photo of the cooperative to recalculate your bills or buy a new meter, pay someone for its assembly and with the results of the expertise and invoices for the meter and assembly go to the cooperative. Remember, however, that you have to pay the current bill, if only to avoid interest, that I will not mention the disconnection of water.
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  • #7 16828341
    kierbedz4
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    Of course, the Waterworks have their own scope of work and are responsible only for feeding the pipe to the block and are responsible for the work and legalization and replacement of the water meter counting the water consumption for the whole block. This ends the role of Waterworks. The photo shows that there is a failure of the water meter and this problem should be reported to Spółdzielnia Mieszkaniowa. The co-operative issues a tender for the installation of water meters and removal of faults on working water meters. The company conducts the exchange of water meters in buildings every 5 years.Mounted water meters in apartments have a guarantee and approval and just This company deals with the replacement of damaged water meters and unblocking when the sieve built in the water meter's inlet is clogged with sand and small stones. Leave the letter saying that your meter has a meter failure and let you sign the recipient of the copy. The Cooperative phone calls the company that won the tender for the replacement of water meters is completed by the installer.
  • Mechanical meter digits cannot jump ahead

    #8 16878540
    ness
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    xiabn wrote:
    michalek1988 wrote:
    Who is the owner of a water meter? Water supply? Cooperative? http://forum.nikoniarze.pl/showthread.php?t=162494" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener ugc" class="postlink inline" title="" > link See this, in my opinion, the situation here can be analogous.

    Thanks for the answer. I do not know who owns the meter, but it is possible that the cooperative because its employees deal with their exchange. This article shows that I should force the cooperative to send a meter to the producer. I will write an e-mail to them today, I will see how to address this idea, although I have the impression that in a moment, from a meter reading from 61 m3, it will jump to 72 m3: /


    Hello, calmly, nothing will jump you ;) the mechanical design of the water meter's counter makes this impossible. Decades have a gentle play on the teeth, hence the impression
    that "already" is the number 7. In practice, you can check it by tapping gently with your finger
    in the abacus - the numbers will be arranged in their places, however, it is not possible to switch to a different position. The fact of increasing consumption should be related to lifestyle or leakage in the installation.
    Best wishes.
  • Mechanical play makes the meter reading ambiguous

    #9 16878753
    telecaster1951
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    ness wrote:


    Hello, calmly, nothing will jump you ;) the mechanical design of the water meter's counter makes this impossible. Decades have a gentle play on the teeth, hence the impression
    that "already" is the number 7. In practice, you can check it by tapping gently with your finger
    Impression? I can not tell if the abacus indicates 61 or 72. Forgive me, but the light clearance is not half a turn.
    ness wrote:
    however, it is not possible to switch to a different position
    Of course it is. How many court cases did the bobbing jump over and people had 20,000 bills?
    The counter should work so that the reading is unambiguous. It is not here.
  • Mechanical play can make the meter reading ambiguous

    #10 16878850
    ness
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    telecaster1951 wrote:
    ness wrote:


    Hello, calmly, nothing will jump you ;) the mechanical design of the water meter's counter makes this impossible. Decades have a gentle play on the teeth, hence the impression
    that "already" is the number 7. In practice, you can check it by tapping gently with your finger
    Impression? I can not tell if the abacus indicates 61 or 72. Forgive me, but the light clearance is not half a turn.
    ness wrote:
    however, it is not possible to switch to a different position
    Of course it is. How many court cases did the bobbing jump over and people had 20,000 bills?
    The counter should work so that the reading is unambiguous. It is not here.


    Do not be annoyed, half a turn would be if 6 jump over you for example 1 - once.
    In the courts, there may be "matters", another matter with which judgments end :) . But believe me, the construction and operation of the barrel precludes its spontaneous skipping (the exception is the situation when someone physically damages the mechanism to block it) which will come out during the additional mechanoscopic expertise. In practice, however, the court will rely mainly on metrological expertise carried out by the official GUM where the accuracy of the water meter will be assessed, the errors can not exceed circulating errors, which currently amount to +/- 4% for the main scope and +/- 10% for Qmin / Q4 for water meters for cold water and the validity of verification features.
    I have been dealing with such expertise for almost 30 years and if I write to you that it is natural clearance, in 99 cases out of 100 I am right.
    Greetings,
    N.

Topic summary

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The discussion revolves around a high water consumption issue in a rented flat, which has persisted for six months despite a plumber's brief inspection. The flat owner is uncertain about the ownership of the water meter, suspecting it may belong to the cooperative. Suggestions include contacting the waterworks for clarification on meter management and potentially sending the meter for expertise to assess its accuracy. Participants emphasize the importance of documenting the issue with the cooperative and considering the possibility of meter malfunction or installation leaks. The mechanical design of water meters is discussed, with assurances that they do not spontaneously skip readings unless physically damaged. The owner is advised to pay current bills to avoid penalties while resolving the issue.
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