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The Hormanna sectional garage door after replacing the springs does not work

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  • #1 16830788
    krzysztofh
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    I have a problem with Hormann's gate. The spring broke in the gate after 11 years of use, and therefore both springs were replaced with new ones. Left 722 law 723.
    Spring tension for 9.5 turns according to the nameplate on the gate.
    The problem is that after such a tension the gate should move slightly down and up and with the disconnected drive should stabilize about 1m from the ground (according to information from the company in which I bought the springs). Unfortunately, this is not happening. After fastening the drive, the drive opened the gate but it did not close. Drive off from overload when trying to lower. Evidently, something is wrong because the gate opened, it was heard loud like a rattle from the right drum on which the cord is wound. I think something is blocking there.
    With free springs and an unbonded connector of the rod on which the springs are, after releasing the lock, each of the drums rotates slightly, while as the drums are fastened with a link rod this unblocking does not allow rotation. To turn the bar, both reels must be manually unlocked.
    Where to look for a problem?
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  • #2 16830870
    lamerb
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    And you unlocked the "emergency brake" in case of spring breaks? I do not know about your brothers but usually it's a gear with wedge-shaped teeth and a kind of "hammer".
  • #3 16830950
    krzysztofh
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    Where is the brake? I understand that these are not the elements by which the drum is manually unlocked.
    By the way - how should the bottom screw be attached from the spring holder to the drum? It's about this screw with a cylindrical head, not a semicircular one.
    A brass sleeve is to her. First, I mounted it by inserting the sleeve together with the screw and on the other side I screwed the nut. However, the gate did not open at all, because the head of the screw was locked together with the mechanism of manual releasing the drum. Then I inserted this screw without the sleeve, and the sleeve I gave from the side of the nut. Now the screw head moves in the cutout of the element from the drum, but such fixing causes the spring to be really fixed on one M6 screw.
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    #4 16831282
    tmtch
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    This is not a "safety brake" just a lock. The idea is to prevent the gate from breaking with a broken spring. When "winding" new springs, the first revolutions must be manually unblocked (then it is held under spring pressure). The locking mechanisms are different, but all are characterized by unlikely simplicity.
  • #5 16831740
    krzysztofh
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    I will try to stretch again. For clarity about what's going on with this screw I add two photos. It's about the smaller M6.
    Now it seems to be better because the screw holds the body of the spring (this casting with the sheet visible in the photo.) There is a notch in this plate in the range that this body can move in. Only now the gate can not be opened, because it is blocked by these rack inside the drums.

    The Hormanna sectional garage door after replacing the springs does not work The Hormanna sectional garage door after replacing the springs does not work
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  • #6 16831744
    lamerb
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    The author did not write what exactly the type of gate is. In any case, according to Hormann's instructions, it is possible to block the spring break protection by means of a cotter pin. Below is a reverse action drawing - pulling out the pin.
    I'm afraid that the whole thing was badly put together. Maybe some photos?

    The Hormanna sectional garage door after replacing the springs does not work
  • #7 16832428
    krzysztofh
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    There is no cotter here.
    Subject resolved. Information #tmtch has guided me how to set it.
    Before tensioning the springs, set the mechanism so that the screw visible in the picture was above this wing of the manual unlocking the gate.
    Thanks to everyone for the advice.
    I close the subject.
  • #8 16900997
    krzysztofh
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    I have already solved the problem with the drive as it appears from the previous post, but I have another problem.
    During the repair of the drive, as I did it for the first time and did not quite know how to do it, and started to unscrew the plates with the drive links.
    To lift a gate without a drive I had to dismantle it for individual segments.
    As I was at this stage, I thought that you could wash them well.
    After assembling the segments together and repairing the drive now as the gate rises and leaves, it makes a lot of noise. This noise is like a crackle, it's hard to describe.
    I diagnosed where it comes from. Well, each segment on the upper edge has a sipe sealing the top of its segment and the next one with which it is connected by hinges. As the gate opens and the position of the higher segment plane changes, this sipe at the moment of release from the upper segment of the crackles rubs against the upper panel, issuing an unpleasant sound.
    The height of this sipe is about 1-2mm.
    I wonder why this is happening. I do not know how these segments were originally assembled by the assembly company.
    I assembled the segments simply by lowering one to the other, which meant that the higher one dropped to the bottom panel. Perhaps some distance (dilation) between the panels should be used. The hinge adjustment clearance is about 2-3mm. Maybe if this lamella did not get stuck in the bottom edge of the top panel it would be better.

    Perhaps some editor Hormann would have said.
  • #9 16901932
    rocco26l
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    Maybe he said by some montażysta Hormanna. [/ Quote]

    Not only the editor Hormann but each of the guys who assemble the gates would say about it. There are many details that must be observed when installing the gate so that it goes correctly. But is this the appropriate forum for learning the assembly of gates ...
  • #10 16902505
    krzysztofh
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    This is not about assembly training, because I'm not going to do it professionally. I care only for the advice on how the individual segments are made together - without slack down on one another, whether there is any space to prevent this unpleasant creaking of the panels.
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  • #11 16902524
    tmtch
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    No special distances are applied. It happens that the hinge axis of the panel slightly increases the gap between panels, but with light panels. If you creak and creak, you have three options: replace the gaskets with new ones, spray with a special preparation (ladies before the preparation from "40" at the end) or live with it, they will eventually get there and that's it.
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  • #12 16903949
    krzysztofh
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    I have rather light panels, it's hard to say. As for the exchange, it is probably there that the lamellas are unchangeable because it looks like part of the panel and in the same color.
    It's already dark, but maybe tomorrow I'll be able to take some picture to let you know what's going on.
    As I washed these panels after demolition, wiped with a silicone preparation in spray, spraying a little on the cloth, which rubbed the edges of the panels (both bottom - recess and top). The treatment was to reduce the friction of the panels, but you can see that it did not help, or maybe even worsened the case.

Topic summary

✨ The discussion revolves around issues faced with a Hormann sectional garage door after replacing its broken springs. The user replaced both springs and attempted to set the correct tension as per the nameplate specifications. However, the door failed to stabilize at the expected height and exhibited problems when operated with the drive, including a loud rattle from the right drum and an overload condition preventing closure. Various responses addressed potential issues, including the need to unlock the emergency brake, proper screw attachment for the spring holder, and ensuring correct assembly of the locking mechanisms. The user eventually resolved the initial problem by adjusting the mechanism before re-tensioning the springs. A subsequent issue arose with noise during operation, attributed to the sealing strips between segments, leading to suggestions for maintenance and potential replacement of components.
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FAQ

TL;DR: For Hörmann sectional doors, panel creaks have 3 options: replace seals, use the right spray, or wait; “No special distances are applied.” [Elektroda, tmtch, post #16902524] Why it matters: This FAQ helps DIY owners fix post–spring-replacement lockups and noisy panels fast, without unsafe trial‑and‑error.

Quick Facts

What is the spring-break safety lock on a Hörmann sectional door?

It is a simple lock that prevents the door from dropping if a spring fails. After fitting new springs, you must manually release it for the first revolutions so the mechanism can re-engage under tension. It is often mistaken for a brake. [Elektroda, tmtch, post #16831282]

Why won’t my door close after replacing springs?

Your drive may hit overload because a drum lock or linkage blocks rotation. Users reported rattling from a drum and stalling on descent after spring work. Check that both drums are fully unlocked and the connecting rod aligns correctly before reattaching the drive. [Elektroda, krzysztofh, post #16830788]

How do I unblock the mechanism after winding new springs?

Set the mechanism so the small screw sits above the manual release “wing,” then release the lock and tension the springs. After correct positioning, the door operates normally. How-To:
  1. Position the screw above the release wing.
  2. Manually release the drum lock.
  3. Apply the specified spring turns and recheck movement. [Elektroda, krzysztofh, post #16832428]

Where is the “emergency brake,” and do I need to unlock it?

Installers describe a gear with wedge-shaped teeth and a hammer-like pawl. This acts as the spring-break protection. Before testing the door after spring work, ensure this lock is disengaged so the drums can rotate freely. [Elektroda, lamerb, post #16830870]

How should the M6 screw and brass sleeve be installed on the spring holder?

Fit the cylindrical-head M6 so its head can slide in the drum’s slotted element, and place the brass sleeve to avoid interference with manual release. Incorrect sleeve placement can lock the drum, preventing any opening. Refit so the head moves freely in the slot. [Elektroda, krzysztofh, post #16830950]

Does my Hörmann model use a cotter pin to block the spring protection?

Some Hörmann instructions show a removable pin used to block the safety lock during service. Not every model has it, but if yours does, remove the pin before testing. Misassembly can also mimic a blocked lock. [Elektroda, lamerb, post #16831744]

What spring pre-tension and balance should I expect?

A user-reported nameplate specified 9.5 turns. With the drive disconnected, the door should move lightly and stabilize around 1 meter from the floor. If it shoots up or drops, recheck turns and locks before motor setup. [Elektroda, krzysztofh, post #16830788]

How do I diagnose rattling from a right or left drum after spring work?

Rattle plus motor overload suggests the drum lock engages or the connecting rod binds. Test with springs wound and drive disconnected. Both drums must rotate freely when correctly unlocked; otherwise, re-seat the linkage and release mechanisms. [Elektroda, krzysztofh, post #16830788]

Do I need spacers between panels to stop creaking?

No. “No special distances are applied.” For creaks, options are: replace the gaskets, use a suitable preparation instead of WD‑40-type sprays, or let them bed in. “They will eventually get there.” [Elektroda, tmtch, post #16902524]

Why did my door start crackling after washing the panels?

Cleaning can increase friction where the upper panel’s lip seal meets the lower panel. A 1–2 mm seal can rub and crackle as panel angles change during opening. Light silicone on cloth did not help in one case. [Elektroda, krzysztofh, post #16900997]

Are the panel seal lips replaceable?

One owner observed the lip appears integrated and color-matched to the panel, suggesting it is not a simple user-replaceable strip on that door. If yours looks integral, consider professional service for replacements. [Elektroda, krzysztofh, post #16903949]

What hinge clearance should I set between panels?

Users report an available hinge adjustment of about 2–3 mm. This may slightly increase the panel gap, especially on lighter panels, but it is not a dedicated spacer system. Adjust only to remove binding. [Elektroda, krzysztofh, post #16900997]

What if drums won’t rotate when the connecting rod is fitted?

That edge case points to locks still engaged. With the rod installed, unlocking only one side may not free the shaft. Release both drum locks, then verify free rotation before motor reconnection. [Elektroda, krzysztofh, post #16830788]

How long do springs last before failure?

A reported failure occurred after 11 years of service. Lifespan varies by cycle count and environment. When one breaks, replacing both springs together helps restore balance and reliability. [Elektroda, krzysztofh, post #16830788]
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