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[Solved] Determining Wire Cross-Section Between Switchgear Elements: Disconnector, RCD, Circuit Breaker

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  • #1 16881631
    piotrkartuz
    Level 10  
    Hello
    What cross-section should the bridge have between the elements of the switchgear?

    E.g. 5x4 mm2 is connected to the disconnector
    1) the bridge between the disconnector and the RCD should be 4 mm2 (1 phase)
    2) not less than 4 mm2
    3) larger than 4 mm2

    Should the same cross-section be continued between the RCD and the miniature circuit breaker or should the cross-section of the conductor of the circuit protected by the miniature circuit breaker be present?
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  • #2 16881690
    kokapetyl
    Level 43  
    piotrkartuz wrote:
    5x4mm2 is connected to the disconnector

    This disconnector is probably not five-pole?
    From the disconnector, the circuits diverge in several directions, there you must use cross-sections in accordance with the load on the given line.
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  • #3 16881699
    Anonymous
    Level 1  
  • #4 16881741
    piotrkartuz
    Level 10  
    kokapetyl wrote:
    piotrkartuz wrote:
    5x4mm2 is connected to the disconnector

    This disconnector, I don't think is five poles?
    From the disconnector, the circuits diverge in several directions, there you need to apply cross-sections in accordance with the load on the given line.


    The disconnector is 3-pole (PE and N are not disconnected), my question is about phase conductors.
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    #5 16881746
    elpapiotr
    Electrician specialist
    The bridges should have a cross section of 4 mm?
  • #6 16881749
    kokapetyl
    Level 43  
    Koderr wrote:
    The fact that a bulb is connected there, for example, with a 1.5-wire cable does not mean that in a while there will be no change to e.g. an induction furnace - the cross-section is much larger

    Did you encounter such a situation that an induction stove is connected to the lighting?
    The system disconnects from the disconnector over several circuits and here you need to maintain the appropriate cross-section of the cable depending on the load. And so, for lighting 1.5 mm?, for 2.5mm? sockets and for special receivers, a separate power cord also minimum 2.5mm?.
  • #7 16881773
    Anonymous
    Level 1  
  • #8 16881788
    piotrkartuz
    Level 10  
    The reason for my question is the use of bridges with a larger cross-section than 4mm2 (i.e. with a cross-section larger than the cross-section of the cable before RCD).
    I was wondering if there could be any problems with "over-dimensioning".
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  • #9 16881797
    elpapiotr
    Electrician specialist
    piotrkartuz wrote:
    I was wondering if there could be any problems with "over-dimensioning".
    And what problems can these be?
    Too heavy distribution or what?
  • #10 16881805
    Anonymous
    Level 1  
  • #11 16881811
    kokapetyl
    Level 43  
    Koderr wrote:
    I meant justifying not reducing the cross-section of the wires.

    Does it mean how WLZ is 10mm?. is it supposed to be this way?
  • #12 16881821
    xury
    Automation specialist
    And no one thought that these bridges are dedicated "combs" usually 10-12mm2?
  • #13 16881833
    retrofood
    VIP Meritorious for electroda.pl
    Koderr wrote:

    But why bridge the cross section? Well, unless you have an excess of e.g. 25 square ;-)
    For what? After that the bridge can be bought ready. The standard comb is also a bridge.
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  • #14 16881835
    Anonymous
    Level 1  
  • #15 16881841
    retrofood
    VIP Meritorious for electroda.pl
    kokapetyl wrote:
    Koderr wrote:
    I meant justifying not reducing the cross-section of the wires.

    Does it mean how WLZ is 10mm?. is it supposed to be this way?

    The principle is to install the protection in a place where the cable cross-section is reduced.
  • #16 16881872
    kokapetyl
    Level 43  
    Koderr wrote:
    There is no question of WLZ.

    And what comes to the "disconnector" (I mean the cross-section of the wire), because earlier there is an energy meter.
    We switch from the disconnector into (some circuits) and there does not have to be the same cross-section as at the entrance.
    ! 0 mm?, for 5x X for a flat is enough
  • #17 16886740
    piotrkartuz
    Level 10  
    Ok, thanks to everyone for the answer.
    I was wondering if RCD bridging with 4 "S" using different cross-sections is dictated by something? The other two RCDs are connected by a 12mm2 comb.
  • #18 16886753
    elpapiotr
    Electrician specialist
    piotrkartuz wrote:
    Ok, thanks to everyone for the answer.
    I was wondering if RCD bridging with 4 "S" using different cross-sections is dictated by something? The other two RCDs are connected by a 12mm2 comb.

    The question is how it's done.
    Through the distribution block, double wire sleeves or else?
  • #19 16886880
    piotrkartuz
    Level 10  
    lines in double sleeves, judging by the thickness of the lines, the cross-section is different

Topic summary

The discussion revolves around determining the appropriate wire cross-section for bridges connecting switchgear elements, specifically between a disconnector, RCD, and circuit breaker. Participants emphasize that the cross-section should not be reduced at terminals where circuits diverge, and it should match the load requirements of the connected devices. The author clarifies that the disconnector is 3-pole and inquires about maintaining a consistent cross-section, particularly when using larger cross-sections than 4 mm². Responses indicate that while oversizing the cross-section may not cause issues, it is essential to ensure compatibility with the load and to avoid unnecessary weight. The conversation also touches on the use of standard combs for bridging connections and the importance of maintaining appropriate cross-sections throughout the circuit.
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