Best Table Grinder Under PLN 400: Dedra, Einhell, Hecht, Graphit - Sharpening Drills & Hard Steel

Hello.
I am looking for a good workshop grinder.
Budget up to PLN 400.
Purpose: sharpening drills, the ax sometimes crumbles some harder steel.
I do not want stimulants.
I currently have Nutolla 150W and stops literally on the nail.
I was thinking about:
Dedra.
Einhell, although opinions about him are not the best.
Hecht'em.
Graphit'em.

I know that Makita, Metabo or Bosch would be the best, but I would have to add some to them.

What do you recommend?

At work, we use something similar to the Metabo DS 175, but I do not remember the exact model, it only exceeds your budget by 2 times. It gives advice, but there is no revelation, earlier we had an old grinder that probably remembered the PRL, but the bosses had to replace it because it did not meet European standards. . In this compartment you will not buy anything branded. Looking at the well-known auction portal, up to PLN 400 you can get mainly Chinese grinders under the Einhell, Marpol, Graphite brands with a power of about 400W and also Japanese Ryobi, but only 250W. There is also an American Skil brand currently belonging to a company from Hong Kong with a capacity of 370W. I would choose between Skil, Graphite and Einhell.

And such a Swedish could not be: http://www.megaobrabiarki.pl/luna-szlifierka-dwutarczowa-msg-150-h,id24986.html

MonsterPL wrote:

I am looking for a good workshop grinder.
Budget up to PLN 400.

MonsterPL wrote:

Purpose: sharpening drills, ax sometimes crumbles some harder standing.

MonsterPL wrote:

I do not want a drug.

Add one zero, because that's how everything is ruled out. A good stimulus for such money is hard to buy, let alone a new ...

xray81 wrote:

At work, we use something similar to the Metabo DS 175, but I do not remember the exact model, it only exceeds your budget by 2 times. It gives advice, but there is no revelation, earlier we had an old grinder that probably remembered the PRL, but the bosses had to replace it because it did not meet European standards. . In this compartment you will not buy anything branded. Looking at the well-known auction portal, up to PLN 400 you can get mainly Chinese grinders under the Einhell, Marpol, Graphite brands with a power of about 400W and also Japanese Ryobi, but only 250W. There is also an American Skil brand currently belonging to a company from Hong Kong with a capacity of 370W. I would choose between Skil, Graphite and Einhell.

I found a few grinders but I do not know which one is worth buying:

https://www.mall.pl/szlifierki-stolowe/einhel...blb3Ews7rchiNVcfKmbIOGw2FUG4a0iBoC5n0QAvD_BwE
Einhell from the beginning, I wanted to buy it, but I heard that it is scaring the weak. What do you think?

http://www.narzedzia.pl/szlifierka-stolowa-35...tlQojKq1h1GPNqBAC46eWaucdzbm1zTBoCfT0QAvD_BwE
Verto

https://mar-pol.sklep.pl/mobile/pl/p/SZLIFIERKA-STOLOWA-150x25x32mm-230V/388
Marpol you mentioned

http://www.ryobi.ndc24.pl/szlifierki-stolowe/...-stolowa-dwutarczowa-rbg6g-4892210149633.html
Ryobi, which you talked about, appealed to me but it worries me that it only has 250W

https://www.oleole.pl/szlifierki/graphite-59g...gclsrc=aw.ds&dclid=CJOSlYy1j9gCFYPFsgod4sACoA
Graphite

https://www.budujesz.pl/skil-szlifierka-stolowa-masters-3900-ma-370w-f0153900ma-282864/
Skil probably the best of all, but the price does not encourage

https://www.ceneo.pl/39879927#tab=spec
I also found a Dedra grinder at a similar price to Skil, I do not know if I should take it into account

Which of these machines would you recommend except for Skil you talked about, or maybe there's some that I have not seen and it's noteworthy.


greetings

Added after 10 [minutes]:

bearq wrote:

MonsterPL wrote:

I am looking for a good workshop grinder.
Budget up to PLN 400.

MonsterPL wrote:

Purpose: sharpening drills, ax sometimes crumbles some harder standing.

MonsterPL wrote:

I do not want a drug.

Add one zero, because that's how everything is ruled out. A good stimulus for such money is hard to buy, let alone a new ...

I know that no branded grinder is available for such money. I mean some better Chinese for home use. Nke will be heavily exploited.

MonsterPL wrote:

I know that no branded grinder is available for such money. I mean some better Chinese for home use. Nke will be heavily exploited.

There is no "better" because these grinders are hammered in one factory. In each of these grinding machines you have to exchange plates for the start. Originally they are made of pressed sheet metal that bends too much. The effect is that the grinder rides, the bearings shake, the stone crumbles and there is nothing. The cost of making plates is more than the value of this grinder. I'm not talking about curved shafts. Table grinders "remade" a dozen or so pieces.

bearq wrote:

MonsterPL wrote:

I know that no branded grinder is available for such money. I mean some better Chinese for home use. Nke will be heavily exploited.

There is no "better" because these grinders are hammered in one factory. In each of these grinding machines you have to exchange plates for the start. Originally they are made of pressed sheet metal that bends too much. The effect is that the grinder rides, the bearings shake, the stone crumbles and there is nothing. The cost of making plates is more than the value of this grinder. I'm not talking about curved shafts. Table grinders "remade" a dozen or so pieces.

As I wrote, I have this grinder.
http://nutool.pl/pl/maszyny-warsztatowe/84-szlifierka-stolowa-nutool-150w150mm.html

It is not very often used, I have some time and nothing is happening to it, it is simply too weak. Maybe I just happened to be lucky.
And what do you think about this?
https://www.ceneo.pl/8571627;pla#tab=click
Metabo is a fairly good company, it would be noticeably stronger than mine?

I do not think about anything because for me it's a toy for a 15-year-old child, not a grinder. Equipment is supposed to be equipment, but if you want to pretend that you have a grinder or show off your colleagues, take it with confidence that has a nicer color and makes a bigger impression.

bearq wrote:

I do not think about anything because for me it's a toy for a 15-year-old child, not a grinder. This equipment is supposed to be equipment, but if you want to pretend that you have a grinder or to show off your friend, take it boldly with what has a nicer color and makes a bigger impression.

"This equipment is supposed to be equipment," but why do I need a grinder for thousands of zlotys, which will be more time than it worked?

MonsterPL wrote:

bearq wrote:

I do not think about anything because for me it's a toy for a 15-year-old child, not a grinder. This equipment is supposed to be equipment, but if you want to pretend that you have a grinder or to show off your friend, take it boldly with what has a nicer color and makes a bigger impression.

"The equipment is supposed to be equipment" but why do I need a grinder for thousands of zlotys, which will be more time than it worked?

Buy a used one, if you really need a grinder for any work and not looking at it you would not think about plastic quinole.

Sorry, but this Metabo looks like your Nutool and similar power. You have to give at least twice as much as your budget for a good Metabo. If this Ryobi had more power, I would take it and so it is only those that I mentioned earlier at the end of my previous speech when it comes to new ones. Of course, it's best to have an old solid grinder at 400V, this old one was like that and now it's in a storage room with used items and nobody can buy it because it's not allowed by the company's policy. Dedra is a total shit, I have a bad experience with this kind of Polish and really Chinese brand, I have a hot air torch of this company and I am not so keen to say anything, I do not complain about the flat-ring keys of this brand. Skila na alledrogo, you can buy below PLN 400.

xray81 wrote:

Sorry, but this Metabo looks like your Nutool and similar power. You have to give at least twice as much as your budget for a good Metabo. If this Ryobi had more power, I would take it and so it is only those that I mentioned earlier at the end of my previous speech when it comes to new ones. Of course, it's best to have an old solid grinder at 400V, this old one was like that and now it's in a storage room with used items and nobody can buy it because it's not allowed by the company's policy. Dedra is a total shit, I have a bad experience with this kind of Polish and really Chinese brand, I have a hot air torch of this company and I am not so keen to say anything, I do not complain about the flat-ring keys of this brand. Skila na alledrogo, you can buy below PLN 400.

I would buy a grinder for strength, but unfortunately I have a strength of 10 meters from the workshop and I will not want to develop the cable every time I use it. In the eye of another company Sparky, can you tell something about her?

https://www.skapiec.pl/site/cat/514/comp/1843264#ceny
The producer says that he has 520W and he weighs 18kg, but it is not known how much truth there is.

If this data is true, good German company with the factory in Europe, but what they produce in this factory, and it is hard to say this grinder. This model costs over PLN 400. Comparing with the appearance similar to Einhell, Dedra, Marpol but performance a little more solid. Only interesting whether it is still possible to get it because alledrogo is not there as well as mirzen and ceneo. Sparky no longer produces table grinders so at least it's written on their official site. You can try to search for google, maybe some hardware store is still in stock.

xray81 wrote:

If this data is true, good German company with the factory in Europe, but what they produce in this factory, and it is hard to say this grinder. This model costs over PLN 400. Comparing with the appearance similar to Einhell, Dedra, Marpol but performance a little more solid. Only interesting whether it is still possible to get it because alledrogo is not there as well as mirzen and ceneo. Sparky no longer produces table grinders so at least it's written on their official site. You can try to search for google, maybe some hardware store is still in stock.

I had no trouble finding it
http://electrotools.pl/szlifierki-stolowe/78-szlifierka-stolowa-mbg-175.html
Rather, I will choose it because it has a little more power than Skil

If the real weight and not some weight in the base, it should even be ok ...

Let me know how you buy it and how it works.

An old Polish ELNA grinder. At present, you can buy a new supermarket up to PLN 400, but!

Do you have such extractors that pull out all these unhealthy dust from the workshop? I read about it, that it is mega unhealthy and better to invest in special filters for the workshop, I already knew in the Bofa company what I would need for myself.

Hello.
I'll step under the topic.
I need to buy a cheaper table grinder for basic housework.
Has anyone of you had contact and could write something about Deget grinders?
Or maybe you have something else worth recommending?

It's quinol, same as all others. The only grinders noteworthy in decent money are Polish elna, NSA, Ruthenian TEMN and German DDR. Sometimes there are some old Metabo releases or other foreign ones. You must at least give PLN 300 for such a drug and keep in mind that bearings may need to be replaced.

bearq wrote:

It's quinol, same as all others. The only grinders noteworthy in decent money are Polish elna, NSA, Ruthenian TEMN and German DDR. Sometimes there are some old Metabo releases or other foreign ones. You must at least give PLN 300 for such a drug and keep in mind that bearings may need to be replaced.

Apparently Made in Taiwan.
Anyway, now everything is made in china. Even those supposedly branded. It's just about whether this quinol is suitable for household chores or is it not worth bothering with it?
Or maybe Einhell tc-bg 200 ???

Sly75 wrote:

bearq wrote:

It's quinol, same as all others. The only grinders noteworthy in decent money are Polish elna, NSA, Ruthenian TEMN and German DDR. Sometimes there are some old Metabo releases or other foreign ones. You must at least give PLN 300 for such a drug and keep in mind that bearings may need to be replaced.

Apparently Made in Taiwan.
Anyway, now everything is made in china. Even those supposedly branded. It's just about whether this quinol is suitable for household chores or is it not worth bothering with it?
Or maybe Einhell tc-bg 200 ???

Keep in mind that while the power will be fairly true, you have clamps made of sheet metal that do not set the stone in any way and the stones beat so much that the grinder does the compactor. They also come with crooked axles. Your choice.

jalop wrote:

Old Polish ELNA grinder. Currently you can buy a new supermarket up to PLN 400, but!

I confirm the equipment for years not until summer

Approx. I understand.
So what do you think about the Einhell or Sthor 79207 grinder ???

Sly75 wrote:

Approx. I understand.
So what do you think about the Einhell or Sthor 79207 grinder ???

Understand my friend that for 200 or 300 PLN you will not buy a good new grinder because half of this price is the cost of grinding wheels. If you want a good grinder in this money, then only used and that's it.
What you link to is different only by the sticker and color, nothing more.

In the previous work I had a dedera with a bit of luck you could sharpen the drill because when you put a chisel or some thicker iron, the grinder slowed down to zero
My boss bought something at home in a castorama but a toy for me
In the company we have some self-made motor, minimum 2 KW 2800 rev 380 V
It gives advice unstoppable
My turner has an elna on 230v and gives advice without stress
I also have a 230V elna and I'm happy

And does anyone know and can write something about:
TIP WS 150 GRINDER
German 150W, I think

I myself was looking for a fairly decent grinder and on many forums I found the opinion that below 350W it is not a grinder. In general, they praised old Polish grinders, large, solid with a solid axis (there is no bending like in Chinese). That's why these old grinders are still included.

This TIP grinder is kind of old and German but I'm just worried about its 150W power. Is that enough

You buy an old you change 2 bearings and ew switch and peace of mind for years I did it