What intercom for a single-family house a wicket + two gates?

Hello,
intercom needed for a single-family house:
1. I see the gate from the kitchen window, of course, opening the gate must be,
2. In the fence I have 2 electric gates controlled from the remote control, if I managed to rip it, it would be git,
3. Analog or digital ... ??
4. There are 8 wires from the kitchen to the gate,
5. I want the external element to have the highest degree of IPXX (previous intercoms leaked and fell),
6. I would like the external element to be illuminated at night, number / name and bell button,
7. it can be a handset or a speakerphone, possibly wirelessly between the exchange and the handset at home, but I know it can be too expensive,
8. Budget about PLN 500.

In general, I mean that the intercom should be resistant to rain and that it be fairly modern in appearance.

michumal wrote:

3. Analog or digital ... ??

Well, this problem probably solved itself

michumal wrote:

8. Budget about PLN 500

The question is, what does your colleague understand by digital?

As for the others:
The easiest and the cheapest, if a colleague wants to have the factory built-in gate opening buttons, a classic analog intercom will come out, but if the cable runs directly from the door to the kitchen, in this case the control panel must be placed outside, and the 8-core cable used as a connector between the control panel and a uniphone.
Please look at the topic: https://www.elektroda.pl/rtvforum/topic3052628.html


Another version is that we use, for example, the Digital Cosmo intercom and the gate opening buttons are mounted next to the handset / on the handset / on the handset.
But without detailed data, it's a sham.
questions:
1. estimated distances?
2. Does your friend have / may have cables for gate automation in the house-to-machine or gate-to-machine relationship.
3. external panel recessed / surface-mounted / maximum dimensions.
4. A colleague writes that the cable ends in the kitchen. And where was the power supply planned / where was the power supply of the previous intercom?
5. What were the intercoms that leaked and fell so much, how long did they last?

Regards

suworow wrote:

michumal wrote:

3. Analog or digital ... ??

Well, this problem probably solved itself

michumal wrote:

8. Budget about PLN 500

The question is, what does your colleague understand by digital?

Digital = two-wire?

suworow wrote:

As for the others:
The easiest and the cheapest, if a colleague wants to have the factory built-in gate opening buttons, a classic analog intercom will come out, but if the cable runs directly from the door to the kitchen, in this case the control panel must be placed outside, and the 8-core cable used as a connector between the control panel and the uniphone, patch cable has only 6 wires.
Please look at the topic: https://www.elektroda.pl/rtvforum/topic3052628.html

Rather, I was thinking of dismantling one remote control, placing it inside the intercom and connecting the original intercom buttons to the remote control buttons with cables, so that the intercom would have to have two free buttons besides opening the gate ...

suworow wrote:

Another version is that we use, for example, the Digital Cosmo intercom and the gate opening buttons are mounted next to the handset / on the handset / on the handset.

Also an interesting solution, and a nice Flor pilot will enter there?

suworow wrote:

But without detailed data, it's a sham.
questions:
1. estimated distances?

From the house (kitchen) to the gate I have about 30 m, one gate next to the gate, the other about 20 m next to it in the same line.

suworow wrote:

2. Does your friend have / may have cables for gate automation in the house-to-machine or gate-to-machine relationship.

I only have cables from the kitchen to the gate and it is possible that there are also cables from the gates in the gate post, but I have to check it, I checked, there are only cables from the kitchen at the gate.

suworow wrote:

3. external panel recessed / surface-mounted / maximum dimensions.

external surface-mounted or rather post-mounted panel for a fence post with a square cross-section, probably 70 mm wide, I will also check it, I checked, the post is 100mm .

suworow wrote:

4. A colleague writes that the cable ends in the kitchen. And where was the power supply planned / where was the power supply of the previous intercom?

Installation quite simple, the cable goes from the kitchen to the gate, the power supply / central unit lay on the cabinet connected to the socket above the kitchen cabinet, the cable went down to the intercom panel, and that's it. The gate controller is in the basement under the kitchen, and the cables from the gates go directly to it, no kitchen-basement cable to the gate controller.

suworow wrote:

5. What were the intercoms that leaked and fell so much, how long did they last?

Father bought some market items, the last one was even a full hd videophone, 5 stars, miracles wreaths ... all outdoor units leaked and lasted a year or two ...

thanks

Anyone suggest something in the subject?

Have you looked at your colleague's linked offers?
Any comments questions for them?

michumal wrote:

In general, I mean that the intercom should be resistant to rain and that it be fairly modern in appearance.

Maybe if something is leaking, it is worth a roof over it (cover, drain to put into the wall ect) instead of replacing it without reflection.

suworow wrote:

Have you looked at your colleague's linked offers?

In the link to the topic there is a discussion about which intercom is best to buy for a cable 10 wires between the gate and the box and then 4 wires between the box and the uniphone ...
I have 6 veins from the gate to the kitchen, where I have a 230V socket next to it. So I still do not know what type of intercom I need to buy, analog, digital?
In terms of resistance to rain, the intercom will be on the steel post of the gate. I don't see the possibility of building some roofs. I would like the intercom to have some minimum necessary IP protection, I don't know, 44 or 56? How can you check with the manufacturer? It seems to me that such an intercom should be resistant to weather conditions, since it is intended for installation outside ...

michumal wrote:

In the link to the topic there is a discussion about which intercom is best to buy for a cable 10 wires between the gate and the box and then 4 wires between the box and the uniphone ...
I have 6 veins from the gate to the kitchen, where I have a 230V socket next to it.

Strange, because not so long ago there were more of them:

michumal wrote:

There are 8 wires from the kitchen to the gate,

Does something eat them or trouble counting? Linked analogue doorphones are just using 8 wires though and 6 of them can be connected and the control panel does not have to be placed in the "electrical box" and it can also be quietly lying on the cabinet. But in the link and in the text (post # 2) there were proposals of other intercoms working on fewer veins.
Regards

suworow wrote:

Strange, because not so long ago there were more of them:

michumal wrote:
There are 8 wires from the kitchen to the gate,


Does something eat them or trouble counting?

A colleague did not notice, but in the 3rd post I corrected three information (in bold), after careful checking. I just counted the two veins that go to the gate lock.
Nevertheless, I am grateful for all the help. I understand that I have to make an analog set myself. Ok, I will look for what suits me and let me ask if it will work.

michumal wrote:

A colleague did not notice, but in the 3rd post I corrected three information (in bold),

And exactly in my quoted text instead of my own. An interesting option, but as you can see not very effective. It is hard to expect that someone will read their previous quotations carefully

michumal wrote:

I just counted the two veins that go to the gate lock.

Can you make it clearer? They go "to the gate lock" can be understood as: they go from somewhere (by default from home) to the gate lock, or go in the panel / can relationship on the gate - electric strike.

michumal wrote:

I understand that I have to make an analog set myself

As a friend knows. However, I would suggest something ready to buy

michumal wrote:

Ok, I will look for what suits me and let me ask if it will work.

That's how it works. Because for now it looks like a colleague got at least 3 proposals of intercoms that even met the 6 criterion criterion (two in the link and one in the text) and did not refer to any substantive ones. Fairy tale theme

suworow wrote:

And exactly in my quoted text instead of my own. An interesting option, but as you can see not very effective. It is hard to expect that someone will read their previous quotations carefully

Well, somehow it turned out that the quotes did not arrange as they were and the correction jumped into the quote.

suworow wrote:

Can you make it clearer? They go "to the gate lock" can be understood as: they go from somewhere (by default from home) to the gate lock, or go in the panel / can relationship on the gate - electric strike.

two cables from the gate's electric strike to the panel on the post, I don't know if it's clearer?

suworow wrote:

As a friend knows. However, I would suggest something ready to buy

I don't think you need to stick to words, but ok. It was a mental shortcut.

suworow wrote:

That's how it works. Because for now it looks like a colleague got at least 3 proposals of intercoms that even met the 6 criterion criterion (two in the link and one in the text) and did not refer to any substantive ones. Fairy tale theme

Well, but what I have to substantively refer to as in the descriptions on the pages does not go to find even an IP protection degree of intercom panels. And it's difficult to have substantive comments on something you see in the picture and you are not in the process of editing. To avoid problems and mishaps with an unsuccessful purchase, I tried to substantively describe how the installation looks like for me, what expectations I had and hoped for help from the forum, I thought that it works ... As I wrote, I will try to pick something and speak. Meanwhile, thank you for your comments.

michumal wrote:

two cables from the gate's electric strike to the panel on the post, I don't know if it's clearer?

It is now precise and clear.

michumal wrote:

Suvorov wrote:
As a friend knows. However, I would suggest something ready to buy

I don't think you need to stick to words, but ok. It was a mental shortcut.

Or maybe just meddling to relax the atmosphere.

michumal wrote:

Well, but what I have to substantively refer to as in the descriptions on the pages does not go to find even an IP protection degree of intercom panels.

But a colleague can indicate which solution a colleague likes. As for "reliability", your colleague has three options: buy at random, trust the seller, trust the experience of installers. We recommend what we assemble ourselves and we know that it works.

michumal wrote:

And it's difficult to have substantive comments on something you see in the picture and you are not in the process of editing.

Should my friend send samples? But not to invite my friend to the assembly. We will inform you in advance how we will find it
Regards

Sorry for the post post.
I wrote as soon as I could for a colleague (and not only) a short guide, and basically I rewritten and completed the previous one so that it was more readable
https://www.elektroda.pl/rtvforum/topic3418235.html
Of course, the current installation invitation

Thank you for everything I read. I will not use the invitation for installations, but thank you so much for wanting to help me lost in the intercom world.
I was looking and finally found something that suits me: 6025 / PR1 / 401 - Doorphone set for 1 occupant - Miwi-Urmet
E.g. here: https://sklep-ecsystem.pl/6025-pr1-401-zestaw-domofonowy-dla-1-lokatora-miwi-urmet-10039.html

And now my question, how to connect it on the 6 wires of the wicket house relationship? Do you need to buy a 4-wire switch instead of the original one?