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Bosch PIF651FC1E Induction Hob & Oven Connection: 3-Phase Circuit 5x2.5mm, Wiring Diagram

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  • #1 16902023
    mireczek85
    Level 9  
    Hello, I set up a new thread because I did not find a similar one, I apologize in advance if I litter the forum.
    I have an oven and an induction hob to connect, I would like these devices to be connected to a separate 3-phase circuit 5x2.5mm
    The induction cooker is Bosch PIF651FC1E, the oven will also be the same company, will anyone be familiar with the topic and look at whether the following diagram is correctly made? I will add that the connection will be made by an electrician with permissions, but despite this I would like to know what and how not to let an electrician put on some sort of cleaning.

    Bosch PIF651FC1E Induction Hob & Oven Connection: 3-Phase Circuit 5x2.5mm, Wiring Diagram Bosch PIF651FC1E Induction Hob & Oven Connection: 3-Phase Circuit 5x2.5mm, Wiring Diagram Bosch PIF651FC1E Induction Hob & Oven Connection: 3-Phase Circuit 5x2.5mm, Wiring Diagram
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  • #2 16902092
    CYRUS2
    Level 43  
    mireczek85 wrote:
    I will add that the connection will be made by an electrician with permissions, but despite this I would like to know what and how not to let an electrician put on some sort of cleaning.
    He does not need a colleague to know.
    A colleague is not an inspector from checking the qualifications of an electrician.
    The diagram is a colleague's work.
    The schema is incorrect - not compliant with the standards.
  • #3 16902903
    mireczek85
    Level 9  
    I do not want to check the electrician only to ask if the given scheme I made (because I did not write anywhere that an electrician did it) is correct. If a colleague claims he is not, which connection is wrongly done?
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  • #4 16902974
    mawerix123
    Level 39  
    Gray wire for induction in your image is unnecessary and figure 3N seems to be wrong because there is no 3L there is a 2N system with a mirrored L1.

    Generally, the oven and induction should be on separate circuits.
  • #5 16902990
    CYRUS2
    Level 43  
    mireczek85 wrote:
    If a colleague claims he is not, which connection is wrongly done?
    Connections are correct - but only on paper.
    Theoretically "Lines" in the diagram go wherever you need.
    But .... It can not bear the load.
    (I ignore non-compliance with standards)
    A colleague needs to earn an extra perimeter to the oven.
    Then it will be ok
    Provided that a colleague does not call back connection techniques.
    Because I do not believe in this "electrician".
  • #6 16903065
    mireczek85
    Level 9  
    If I make an additional circuit for the oven, then the phase from circuit 3f will be left unused, I will add that the circuit breaker is B20 A 3-phase.
    I'm just wondering if this gray GY wire bridged with the brown BN wire is not from the induction hob display? how do you guys think?
    The manual does not mention this.
  • #7 16903071
    kkas12
    Level 43  
    Do not combine.
    Do you have two receivers?
    You have, so you should power them with separate circuits and not worry about the unused phase.
    In what you propose to damage one receiver will also immobilize the efficient receiver.
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  • #8 16903092
    CYRUS2
    Level 43  
    mireczek85 wrote:
    If I make an additional circuit under the oven, then the phase from circuit 3f will be left unused.
    Hire a professional who knows what he is doing.
  • #9 16903354
    Krzysztof Reszka
    Moderator of Electrical engineering  
    viertnik wrote:
    Your electrician's power supply can be mounted mini switchboards .

    An interesting description of where they sell it.
    viertnik wrote:
    to propose a solution without the need for additional circuits with RG?

    There are no half-measures, or we do it in accordance with the knowledge and art of a decent electrician and regulations or do not touch the topic.
  • #10 16903437
    mireczek85
    Level 9  
    Gentlemen, write to yourself not to bother with the third phase, from what I know every phase must be loaded uniformly, the induction is 7.4 KW and the oven 3.6 KW, if I understand correctly for each of these two phases, the induction will be 3 , 7 KW and for one 3.6 KW. The 2.5mm cable load capacity in tubes or closed trays on the wall, in the wall or in the floor is 19A, i.e. I still have a spare. If I'm wrong, correct me
  • #11 16903458
    kkas12
    Level 43  
    It is this third unused phase that is supposed to feed the oven. But this oven should be fed with a new, separate circuit
  • #12 16903480
    mireczek85
    Level 9  
    as far as I understand it is necessary to blow out a 3-pole overcurrent fuse and put in place 2-pole for induction and 1-pole with a separate circuit but with the same phase to the oven?

    You can dump dung from the cowshed. [Retrofood]
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  • #13 16903492
    kkas12
    Level 43  
    You misunderstand, because you do it so that it is more convenient for you.
    I wrote about a separate circuit dedicated to the oven.
    A three-pole circuit breaker in the oven circuit can be left. The fact that one phase will not be used is not a reason for its conversion into a two-zone camera.
  • #14 16903544
    mireczek85
    Level 9  
    an additional circuit at this stage of construction is unfortunately not an option. Thank you for all the advice and best regards.
  • #15 16903590
    retrofood
    VIP Meritorious for electroda.pl  
    mireczek85 wrote:
    an additional circuit at this stage of construction is unfortunately not an option. Thank you for all the advice and best regards.


    As you can see, normality is not an option. Typical thinking of electric ignorants. Well, your choice, and you pay for the election. One day you will find out about it.
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The discussion revolves around the connection of a Bosch PIF651FC1E induction hob and an oven to a separate 3-phase circuit using a 5x2.5mm wiring configuration. The original poster seeks validation of their wiring diagram, which is criticized for non-compliance with electrical standards. Key points include the necessity for separate circuits for the induction hob and oven to prevent overload and ensure proper functionality. Participants emphasize the importance of hiring a qualified electrician and adhering to electrical regulations. Concerns are raised about the use of an unused phase and the adequacy of the proposed circuit breaker ratings. The conversation highlights the technical requirements for safely connecting high-power appliances.
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