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Connecting Bosch PUE611BB2E Induction Hob to 3-Phase Network: Wiring, Color Codes & Safety

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  • #1 17769025
    martamarta_2008
    Level 9  
    Hello.
    I want to connect a Bosch induction hob to a 3-phase network. I connected the wires in the board according to the diagram on the bottom of the board (visible in the attached photo).
    The power supply conductor has five cores, namely: 1 green-yellow PE conductor, 1 blue neutral conductor and 3 phase L conductors - black, brown and gray.
    The board has 5 cores of the same color, 2 phase (black and brown), 2 neutral (blue and gray) and PE. (The board veins visible in the photo are placed with the ankle).
    Two questions:
    1. Is the cube too poor and shouldn't I replace it with a more stable one?
    2. Should the wires be connected as follows: PE core of the board with PE core from the power supply, black core of the board with black core of power supply, brown core of the board with brown core of power supply, gray core from the power supply as the 3rd phase (for the board, the third phase is no longer needed) remains unconnected only a self-weighed, blue power wire with two blue and gray board wires?
    Connecting Bosch PUE611BB2E Induction Hob to 3-Phase Network: Wiring, Color Codes & Safety

    Added after 4 [minutes]:

    It also adds photos to the preview of how I connected the wires in the board.
    Connecting Bosch PUE611BB2E Induction Hob to 3-Phase Network: Wiring, Color Codes & Safety Connecting Bosch PUE611BB2E Induction Hob to 3-Phase Network: Wiring, Color Codes & Safety
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    #2 17769100
    Tumiwisizm
    Level 28  
    1. No.
    2. Good reasoning, although I don't get it:
    martamarta_2008 wrote:
    remains unconnected only self-weighed

    as above: black power supply from black plate, brown power supply from brown plate, earth power supply from earth plate, blue power supply from blue and gray plate (need to be bridged) and guitar playing. Generally, connect as below in the red circle
    Connecting Bosch PUE611BB2E Induction Hob to 3-Phase Network: Wiring, Color Codes & Safety
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  • #3 17769105
    barteksmrek
    Level 28  
    If you have at least two phases connected to the power supply, then as you write.

    Added after 1 [minutes]:

    wrote:
    remains unconnected only self-weighed

    Ended with a wago connector and not connected anywhere.
  • #4 17769115
    zhudomel
    Home appliances specialist
    Where do you get the entry to the warranty card of a licensed electrician so as not to lose the warranty?
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  • #5 17769128
    martamarta_2008
    Level 9  
    barteksmrek wrote:
    Ended with a wago connector and not connected anywhere.

    That was exactly what it was about :)
  • #6 17769130
    artaa
    Level 43  
    After all, it doesn't have to be guaranteed. She hadn't even mentioned that she needed her.
  • #7 17769133
    Tumiwisizm
    Level 28  
    A friend from work or a colleague of a colleague with valid SEP qualifications is enough to even have a look and enter the warranty card. It does not have to be a person running a business (an electrician with a company), it is enough to enter the authorization number and the guest's signature in the guarantee :-D .
  • #8 17769136
    martamarta_2008
    Level 9  
    zhudomel wrote:
    Where do you get the entry to the warranty card of a licensed electrician so as not to lose the warranty?

    Don't worry about my warranty ;)
    Maybe I have a CD without documents, e.g. I stole it ;)
  • #9 17769137
    Tumiwisizm
    Level 28  
    But the fact is, if you want to have a valid guarantee, you should have an entry from someone with permissions.
  • #10 17769138
    artaa
    Level 43  
    This third phase, which you will complete with Wago, is generally used for the oven.
  • #11 17769140
    Tumiwisizm
    Level 28  
    It is better not to brag about it here :-P
    martamarta_2008 wrote:
    Maybe I have a CD without documents, e.g. I stole it
  • #12 17769149
    artaa
    Level 43  
    But it must be praised that the fair sex is overwhelmed by Wago and a three-phase connection.
    Some electricians do not understand ...
  • #13 17769156
    martamarta_2008
    Level 9  
    artaa wrote:
    This third phase, which you will complete with Wago, is generally used for the oven.

    Yes, I know, but the oven is plugged in elsewhere :)
  • #15 17769187
    martamarta_2008
    Level 9  
    But I was wondering if, having only one neutral wire on the power supply, I should not connect as shown in the first diagram in the attached photo below? Connecting Bosch PUE611BB2E Induction Hob to 3-Phase Network: Wiring, Color Codes & Safety
    If the manufacturer did not offer such a scheme for my model, should I not invent it myself?
  • #16 17769195
    artaa
    Level 43  
    They are bridged, so the effect is the same.
    Even if you had two N, they would be in the switchboard on one N strip.
  • #17 17769198
    martamarta_2008
    Level 9  
    artaa wrote:
    They are bridged, so the effect is the same.
    Even if you had two N, they would be in the switchboard on one N strip.

    Well, this is what he thinks, but when I see that in one manufacturer only there are different schematic propositions in two different models, why are they different, if they basically give the same effect? Maybe this is something here: D I am not an Elelktry, nor do I produce albums and I do not write diagrams, I just deduce :)
  • #18 17769201
    artaa
    Level 43  
    From what you have given - photo stickers on the disc, 1 is not used for you.

    This picture 6, first from the left, also from your manual?

    The manual sometimes has too many variants ...
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  • #19 17769209
    martamarta_2008
    Level 9  
    artaa wrote:
    This picture 6, first from the left, also from your manual?

    No, it's a different model's manual :D
  • #21 17769218
    martamarta_2008
    Level 9  
    artaa wrote:
    From what you have given - photo stickers on the disc, 1 is not used for you.

    Are you talking about the first clamp?
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    #22 17769465
    artaa
    Level 43  
    Yes, terminal 1 on the right "phase" side.
  • #23 17769504
    martamarta_2008
    Level 9  
    artaa wrote:
    Yes, terminal 1 on the right "phase" side.

    Why inactive? If I put a gray wire under this terminal (as suggested in the diagram of another model with a three-phase power supply), it would be active :)
    Then I would connect the gray and brown wires from the board to one phase conductor of the power supply. I am just wondering why my board model didn't foresee this for users with three phases. Connecting Bosch PUE611BB2E Induction Hob to 3-Phase Network: Wiring, Color Codes & Safety
  • #24 17769822
    Tumiwisizm
    Level 28  
    It is better not to combine with this clamp, we do not know what it is connected to inside, maybe for nothing (you would have to unscrew the board :-P to find out).
    martamarta_2008 wrote:
    Then I would connect the gray and brown wires from the board to one phase conductor of the power supply
    Now let's talk about the above quote, if the gray from the board was to be phase, then to relieve one phase in the home installation, it would have to be connected to the gray one from the power supply, and not to the brown one, because this one already has its counterpart on the board. I suspect that the board only needs 2 power phases, because its connection power does not exceed 5kW, but only 4.6kW. According to common sense, if the cable is 2.5mm2, you should pass up to 2-2.5kW through it, although at 2kW it will already heat up. Hence the power supply in two phases. Of course, the manufacturer could envisage the power supply of three for a lower load on the wires, but why. Apart from that, flats in blocks of flats / tenement houses are powered by two phases from WLZ (although usually one), in houses they are sometimes three phases. Maybe the manufacturer provided just such a power supply for the disc.
  • #25 17769849
    barteksmrek
    Level 28  
    Gray to the phase? good. There is a factory bridge between gray and blue. If there is a set between gray and L2 or L1 intended for 230V power supply, good luck with 415V there. What do you think why the manufacturer did not provide for a 3-phase power supply?
  • #26 17769865
    martamarta_2008
    Level 9  
    barteksmrek wrote:
    Gray to the phase? good

    Gray to brown (phase) is the manufacturer's diagram as you can see in the photo in my 15th post, not my invention. You're not the first to be surprised.
  • #27 17769878
    barteksmrek
    Level 28  
    martamarta_2008 wrote:
    If the manufacturer did not offer such a scheme for my model, should I not invent it myself?


    That's in post 15.
    Well, producers don't always know what they're doing. You see that the gray one in the photos, not from your model, is derived from a different clamp?
    I propose to close the topic and it should be done after the first two posts.

Topic summary

The discussion revolves around connecting a Bosch PUE611BB2E induction hob to a 3-phase electrical network. The user describes their wiring setup, which includes a power supply with five cores: green-yellow (PE), blue (neutral), and three phase conductors (black, brown, gray). Responses clarify the correct wiring connections, emphasizing that the black and brown wires from the power supply should connect to the corresponding wires on the hob, while the gray wire remains unconnected. There is also a discussion about warranty concerns related to the installation and the necessity of having a licensed electrician for warranty validation. The conversation touches on the potential use of a Wago connector and the implications of using different wiring diagrams for various models.
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