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Bosch PIE631FB1E Board Connection for 3-phase Installation: Wire Role & Fuse Replacement

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  • #1 16934685
    witexus
    Level 11  
    Hello, for a 3-phase installation (5x2.5) I want to connect a plate, a dishwasher and an oven under 230V, I have already pulled two 230V sockets from two phases and now the question of connecting the plate appears. Can one blue wire play the role of N1 and N2 with the two-phase option? Two cables from the board connected to it. Another question is whether with such a cable on the installation I can replace the fuses from 16A to 20A? After all, the load will not be constant. Can it connect the board normally to phases 1, 2, 3 and add 230V sockets to 2, 3?
    Bosch PIE631FB1E Board Connection for 3-phase Installation: Wire Role & Fuse Replacement
    Bosch PIE631FB1E Board Connection for 3-phase Installation: Wire Role & Fuse Replacement
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  • #2 16937150
    PtasiorWro
    Level 28  
    Firstly, the board is connected to 2F and N, if you connect it to 3, you will have to buy a new board.
    I would give up the dishwasher and connect it to another circuit (socket) because the 3F unused phase is usually used to power the oven.
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  • #3 16938436
    Anonymous
    Level 1  
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  • #4 16941454
    tomplichta
    Level 12  
    Typically, this 3 power cord can either be plugged or cut off in the same way some coffee machines have strength.
  • #5 16944227
    PtasiorWro
    Level 28  
    skryn wrote:
    PtasiorWro wrote:
    Firstly, the board is connected to 2F and N, if you connect it to 3, you will have to buy a new board.

    No, because the third connection phase is free and not connected to anything inside (L3). This is to prevent the third phase conductor (unnecessary) from dangling freely in the connection housing.
    And so it is in most induction hobs from different manufacturers.


    Provided we have a terminal block and not a connection cable. And after that I already repaired boards with cubes where a capable electrician could connect 3f :D
  • #6 16944555
    Topolski Mirosław
    Moderator of Electrical engineering
    First, a separate induction circuit, separate for the oven and separate for the dishwasher.
    Secondly, in the first upper drawing from the left you have bridged N
    Thirdly, the connection of the above equipment is to be carried out by a person with a valid qualification certificate, otherwise you lose the warranty and you have it exactly written in the manual, which should be read carefully first and then act.
  • #7 17762074
    Robert2207
    Level 11  
    Hello, I am sorry to reheat the chop, but I would like you to confirm me in doing it well or discouraging me from smoking my record. In the apartment, cables come out of the can like the first photo in 5 colors. I want to connect my motherboard in two phases, i.e. where in the second picture, the first diagram is L1 and L2.
    Bosch PIE631FB1E Board Connection for 3-phase Installation: Wire Role & Fuse Replacement Bosch PIE631FB1E Board Connection for 3-phase Installation: Wire Role & Fuse Replacement
    Is my reasoning ok?
    "junction box on the wall" - "connecting cube" - "plate socket no."
    "yellow-green" - "yellow-green" - "GN / YE No. 6"
    "blue" - "blue" - "BU No. 5"
    "brown" - "brown" - "BN nr 2"
    "gray" - "gray" - "GY nr 4"
    black "-" black "-" BK No. 3 "
  • #8 17762162
    ta_tar
    Level 41  
    Not knowing what is on each color (brown, gray, black) or how many phases we have, it's hard to tell here. I hope blue is neutral and yellow-green is protective.
  • #9 17762190
    Robert2207
    Level 11  
    The apartment is from a developer, the rules are rather preserved. How can you verify this?
  • #10 17762217
    witexus
    Level 11  
    Bosch PIE631FB1E Board Connection for 3-phase Installation: Wire Role & Fuse Replacement

    It looks like this to me
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  • #11 17762263
    ta_tar
    Level 41  
    Robert2207 wrote:
    How can you verify this?
    Maybe you can show us a board with protections, maybe you can see your power supply from it. Maybe there will be a description on the security. Take sharp photos and post them here.
  • #12 17762309
    Topolski Mirosław
    Moderator of Electrical engineering
    Robert2207 wrote:
    I want to connect my disc in two phases,

    Before writing a post, you should carefully read the previous post, especially this:
    Topolski Mirosław wrote:
    the connection of the above equipment is to be handled by a person with a valid qualification certificate, otherwise you lose the warranty and you have it exactly written in the instructions, which should be read carefully first and then act.
  • #13 17762321
    ta_tar
    Level 41  
    Topolski Mirosław wrote:
    Before writing a post, you should carefully read the previous post, especially this:

    And so it is if you do not pay attention that the topic is archival (over a year) and was not closed and the new author could add but .....
  • #14 17762341
    Topolski Mirosław
    Moderator of Electrical engineering
    ta_tar wrote:
    And so it is if you do not pay attention that the topic is archival (over a year) and was not closed and the new author could add but .....

    As I wrote, the author having a problem should read the subject carefully because there he has everything explained and the connection diagrams are clear and legible as well as who and why should connect the disc.

Topic summary

The discussion revolves around the connection of a Bosch PIE631FB1E induction cooktop in a 3-phase electrical installation. Users advise against using a single blue wire as both N1 and N2, emphasizing the need for separate circuits for the induction cooktop, oven, and dishwasher. It is noted that the third phase (L3) should not be left unconnected to avoid safety hazards. The importance of adhering to electrical codes and having qualified personnel perform the installation is highlighted, as improper connections can void warranties. Additionally, there are inquiries about the feasibility of replacing 16A fuses with 20A fuses, considering the load variability. Users suggest verifying the wiring colors and configurations to ensure proper connections.
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