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Golf 4 what speakers in the rear sides?

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  • #1
    noelektron
    Level 15  
    I have Golf4 a 3 door version
    In the front door I have some 16cm pioneer speakers. tweeters, 4x45W radio in the pillars near the mirror. There are only end caps in the rear sides. Water was pouring into the car through a flap in the pit (electric wires enter through it). After sealing the flap, the mechanic removed the floor covering and soundproofed the floor to dry. By the way, he pulled the speaker wires to the rear sides. In general, the set sounds nice but I would like to put some speakers in the rear sides, what do you recommend? I am not interested in the new separated sets and the subofer in the trunk (I'm 50 years old)

    1 Do these ? (BLAUPUNKT BGX 663 MKII CAR SPEAKERS 16.5cm ")
    3-way speakers
    Size 165mm / 16.5cm
    Nominal power RMS 50W
    Maximum power 350W
    Perfect for the radio itself
    Mounting depth 56mm
    Membrane material - injected polypropylene
    Frequency response (Hz): 55-22.000
    Performance: 92dB)

    2- Or maybe MEDIUM-LOW-TONE (e.g. two-way coaxial audio system with HERTZ DCX-165 soprano)
    Max power: 120W
    Frequency response: 60-21.000 Hz
    Impedance: 4Ohm
    Efficiency: 93dB
    RMS power: 60W


    3- or bass and will they pretend to be a subwoofer? :idea: (Pioneer bass speakers)
    Maximum power: 230 W



    RMS Musical Power: 40 W

    Impedance: 4 ohm

    Frequency band: 25-20,000 Hz

    SPL (2.83V / m): 90dB

    Which of these 3 do you recommend? Purchase at Allegro, unless some ebay opportunity
  • #2
    Adziu90
    Level 10  
    According to me and many people, the installation of speakers in the rear sides is completely pointless ... The radio you have has a maximum of several W in RMS per channel, not 4x45 ;) so after connecting a loudspeaker, which has 60W in RMS, for example, it will be worse than on serial speakers, which were originally in the car.
    If you really do not want to go in a separate set + amplifier, then give yourself any modifications and buy the tired tires that were originally in this car.
    A friend has a Golf IV and the front is made + amplifier without a subwoofer (DLS R6A) and to be honest, the legs fly like in the wind and the bass is really big ... Of course the door is properly soundproofed. I would go in this direction.
  • #3
    noelektron
    Level 15  
    Adziu90 wrote:
    According to me and many people, the installation of speakers in the rear sides is completely pointless ... The radio you have has a maximum of several W in RMS per channel, not 4x45 ;) so after connecting a loudspeaker, which has 60W in RMS, for example, it will be worse than on serial speakers, which were originally in the car.
    If you really do not want to go in a separate set + amplifier, then give yourself any modifications and buy the tired tires that were originally in this car.
    A friend has a Golf IV and the front is made + amplifier without a subwoofer (DLS R6A) and to be honest, the legs fly like in the wind and the bass is really big ... Of course the door is properly soundproofed. I would go in this direction.


    Do you offer me speakers for PLN 800? I gave 5000 for the car
    https://www.ceneo.pl/219497

    Added after 1 [minutes]:

    the radio has a power of 50-60% lower than declared by the manufacturer (I know that) but RMS is also not what they say

    Added after 4 [minutes]:

    At the outset, I wrote about flooding the car to show that I would do nothing and the loudspeakers I put on, in the way) of stripping the liner.
    He will assemble the speakers for me car mechanic (not an electro mechanic) that's why I want a simple solution
  • #5
    Adziu90
    Level 10  
    I used to have DSK 160 (my first speakers for CA) and if the woofer was not bad, this tweeter is a tragedy. Sticking in ears indescribable.
    The DCX series is by design a lower shelf than DSK so I don't know if I would go at all. I will once again get the original speakers from me how it is supposed to play under the radio itself.
  • #6
    noelektron
    Level 15  
    Adziu90 wrote:
    According to me and many people, the installation of speakers in the rear sides is completely pointless ... The radio you have has a maximum of several W in RMS per channel, not 4x45 ;) so after connecting a loudspeaker, which has 60W in RMS, for example, it will be worse than on serial speakers, which were originally in the car.
    If you really do not want to go in a separate set + amplifier, then give yourself any modifications and buy the tired tires that were originally in this car.
    A friend has a Golf IV and the front is made + amplifier without a subwoofer (DLS R6A) and to be honest, the legs fly like in the wind and the bass is really big ... Of course the door is properly soundproofed. I would go in this direction.


    And those :P IONEER TS-G1732i (smaller RMS - better company)

    Coaxial two-way speaker
    Size - 17 cm
    Impedance - 4 ?
    Frequency response - 26 - 28,000 Hz
    Sensitivity - 88.7 dB
    The lowest resonance frequency (Hz) - 80 Hz
    Maximum input power - 240
    Nominal input power - 40 W
    Material used to make the subwoofer - IMPP composite cone
    Coil Bobbin Type - Copper
    Magnet - Ferrite
    Weight - 0.61 kg
    Hole - 128 mm
    Mounting depth - 38.5mm
    Golf 4 what speakers in the rear sides?
  • #7
    Twu
    Level 16  
    They should be able to do it right on the radio. The friend had a smaller brother and it was quite decent, especially considering the low price. Either way, remember that the amount of bass depends mainly on the soundproofing of the door, and I do not know how with the original golf ;)
  • #8
    noelektron
    Level 15  
    Golf 4 what speakers in the rear sides? Somewhere on some forum someone recommends: "165mm HELIX B 6X.2 two-way speakers"
    Type - two-way, coaxial
    Size - 165mm
    Peak power - 150W
    Nominal power - 50W
    Impedance - 4 ohm
    Frequency response - 60 Hz - 22,000 Hz
    Efficiency - 91dB
    Mounting depth - 58mm
    http://allegro.pl/glosniki-165mm-helix-b-6x-2-dwudrozne-150w-w-wa-i7094955175.html

    Added after 13 [minutes]:

    have other parameters here?
    https://www.car-tronic.pl/helix-b-6x2-autoryzowany-dealer-nowosc-2016-zamow-185404292-p8983
  • #9
    Twu
    Level 16  
    There must have been a small mistake with power, anyway, such a difference is no difference the more it is supposed to play under the radio. As for me, cheap helixes are a failure, especially when it comes to bass, although specifically those models that you have in the link I have not heard. Anyway, I sincerely regret spending PLN 200 for loudspeakers with radio sides.
    I bought Mac Audio 16.2 a year and a half ago. The choice fell on this model and brand, because they were in the nearest store and I did not want to wait for the order. Cost PLN 100 including a penny. Under the radio, there was really a lot of bass in them. As for the price, they sound quite well (apart from the fact that there were too many coaxials and high tones, considering that the tweeters were still original in the pillars).