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[Solved] Fiat Grande Punto 1,2 \ 8V \ 48kW - The starter does not turn.

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  • #1 16960479
    Padrettini
    Level 25  
    Hello,

    I have a problem and I am asking for help.

    For some time he had not "turned" the starter and I started the car on "push". Before the complete "death" of the starter, this one twirled from time to time until it finally fell.
    I replaced the starter today. I connected everything as it was. Satisfied, I sit down in the car, turn the key and ... nothing. The new starter also does not "spin". I have a new battery (about 2 months). I checked the fuses, etc. The car fires on "push", but this is not the solution. What else should I check? Maybe replace something? I am asking for ideas and suggestions because I have run out of them.

    The battery voltage is 12.2V. After turning the ignition key, the voltage drops to 11.8V. Charging is 13.8V.
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  • #2 16960573
    rocker82
    Level 10  
    Shaft position sensor ??? I had a similar situation, he fired on the push, and he did not want to ... with the Opel, but it's rather one dog ..
  • #3 16960589
    Padrettini
    Level 25  
    rocker82 wrote:
    Shaft position sensor ???

    Does it matter if it doesn't spin at all?
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  • #4 16961622
    RobertLodz09
    Level 30  
    Padrettini wrote:
    Does it matter if it doesn't spin at all?

    No ... if he was shooting and not sunbathing it like that.
    And you must buddy check the starting circuit and the weight of the engine
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  • #5 16961739
    migmig85
    Level 26  
    Buddy, check if there is electricity to the starter, if not, it is rather the ignition cube to be examined.
  • #6 16964709
    Padrettini
    Level 25  
    RobertLodz09 wrote:
    And you must buddy check the starting circuit and the weight of the engine


    migmig85 wrote:
    Buddy, check if there is electricity to the starter, if not, it is rather the ignition cube to be examined.


    I'll check everything over the weekend.

    If there are any more ideas, I will gladly accept them.
  • #7 16999140
    Padrettini
    Level 25  
    A strange thing. On Saturday, I did not have time to combine the installation. On Sunday, I get into the car and, as always, trying to fire from the key, the car fired normally and continues to fire. I don't know what happened but it's ok.
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  • #8 17000093
    waski821
    Level 17  
    If he doesn't want to shoot, charge the battery. Had the same thing, ended up replacing the battery.
  • #9 17001773
    Padrettini
    Level 25  
    waski821 wrote:
    If he doesn't want to shoot, charge the battery. Had the same thing, ended up replacing the battery.


    I have a new battery. Bought in early December.
  • #10 17017385
    Padrettini
    Level 25  
    Unfortunately, Punto went on strike again.

    It wont start.

    Bendiks bounces.

    Does the start signal go through any relay? If so, which one is it?
  • #11 17017599
    migmig85
    Level 26  
    The basis is:
    migmig85 wrote:
    Buddy, check if there is electricity to the starter, if not, it is rather the ignition cube to be examined.

    Because if it comes, it may be the end of the starter brushes.
  • #12 17017655
    abart64
    Level 33  
    Padrettini wrote:
    It wont start.

    Bendiks bounces.

    What does it mean?
  • #13 17027822
    Padrettini
    Level 25  
    I took apart the cover under the steering wheel.

    The cube and pins on the ignition switch look ok.

    When firing, I moved the cables and nothing happened. It did not fire.

    Fiat Grande Punto 1,2 \ 8V \ 48kW - The starter does not turn. Fiat Grande Punto 1,2 \ 8V \ 48kW - The starter does not turn.

    There is a 1-pin socket at the ignition switch. I have not seen any cord with a plug hanging anywhere.

    Added after 52 [seconds]:

    migmig85 wrote:

    Because if it comes, it may be the end of the starter brushes.


    The starter is new.
  • #14 17027872
    triakw
    Level 18  
    You probably have problems with ground. View the ground wire connection [no contact].
  • #15 17029586
    Padrettini
    Level 25  
    triakw wrote:
    View the ground wire connection


    Are the ground wires only at the engine? If so, how many are there? I only see 1.
  • #16 17030067
    triakw
    Level 18  
    Ground cables; battery-ground, battery-starter, body weight - engine.
  • #17 17119252
    Padrettini
    Level 25  
    Sorry for being so late. Problem solved. The relay in the box by the engine was the culprit. Thanks to everyone for your help.
  • #18 17119256
    Padrettini
    Level 25  
    Sorry for being so late. Problem solved. The relay in the box by the engine was the culprit. Thanks to everyone for your help.

    Added after 2 [minutes]:

    Problem solved. The relay in the box by the engine was the culprit.

Topic summary

The discussion revolves around a Fiat Grande Punto 1.2 8V experiencing starter issues. The user initially faced a non-functioning starter, which was temporarily resolved by push-starting the vehicle. After replacing the starter, the new unit also failed to engage. The user confirmed a new battery and checked fuses, but the problem persisted. Suggestions included checking the starting circuit, ensuring power to the starter, and examining ground connections. The user later discovered that the issue was due to a faulty relay in the engine compartment, which was ultimately replaced, resolving the starting problem.
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