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Choosing Shuko Sockets & Switches with Accessories for Single-Family Home in PL

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  • #1 17348123
    rockykon
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    Hello,
    I have to choose sockets and switches for my home.

    I would like sockets that have a lot of "accessories" such as motion sensors, triple switches, illuminated sockets, phone chargers (USB), dimmer + cage switch,

    Could you advise on which series to look for sockets?

    PS. I like the sockets much more Shuko - are there any contraindications to use such in PL?
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  • #2 17348194
    jakubek56
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    There are no contraindications in the use of schuko sockets.
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  • #4 17348514
    CYRUS2
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    jakubek56 wrote:
    There are no contraindications in the use of schuko sockets.
    It is advisable to switch all receivers on.
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  • #5 17348564
    jakubek56
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    CYRUS2 wrote:
    jakubek56 wrote:
    There are no contraindications in the use of schuko sockets.
    It is advisable to switch all receivers on.

    Most of today's receivers have plugs adapted to this type of sockets.
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  • #6 17348576
    xury
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    For example, I like Kos Vena and Shneider Sedna. I hate Simon because of the very poor clamps and the inconvenience of assembly.
  • #7 17348632
    awow
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    xury wrote:
    I hate Simon because of the very poor clamps and the inconvenience of assembly.

    I assemble quite a lot of Simon Basic and Simon 54, I think the quality of the screw terminals is at least good.
  • #8 17348830
    kj1
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    jakubek56 wrote:
    There are no contraindications in the use of schuko sockets.

    There are really no legal contraindications. However, many household appliances sold in Poland are not equipped with schuko plugs. Then you will not be able to use such devices (because you will not have electric shock protection)
  • #9 17348860
    kosmos99
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    I recommend Karlik from the Deco series
  • #10 17349191
    xury
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    kj1 wrote:
    However, many household appliances sold in Poland are not equipped with schuko plugs.

    Really? Recently, it's hard to find one that is not universal. I am not talking about old hardware, but about currently available.
  • #11 17349865
    kj1
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    xury wrote:
    Recently, it's hard to find one that is not universal.

    I will not argue. Recently, I haven't bought anything new in protection class I.
    I understand that you think that when someone builds a house (renovates the electrical installation), apart from sockets, he will also replace all equipment (iron, refrigerator, etc.). And when buying, the most important feature that he will have to pay attention to will be the type of plug.
    Of course he can do that. Who will forbid the rich ...
    However, when using an "old" iron with a Polish plug, it will certainly not remember that there is no electric shock protection.
  • #12 17350923
    JacekCz
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    extension cord, although with a peg and a third wire plus Schuko, I cannot recall vividly.
    To this day, I remember what I was doing while washing my hands .... washing machine, at a guest who partially lived in Germany and brought new products. It's a miracle that I am alive and that there was a smooth structural wall behind me, not a bolt-on.
  • #13 17352696
    Borutka
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    rockykon wrote:

    I would like sockets that have a lot of "accessories" such as motion sensors, triple switches, illuminated sockets, phone chargers (USB), dimmer + cage switch,

    How much electricity will such a charger give? Now it doesn't make sense to have less than 2000mA in the drawer. And in 2-3 years everything will be on usb-C and inductive charging.
    Oh ... miraculous.
  • #14 17393909
    zibi900
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    Choosing Shuko Sockets & Switches with Accessories for Single-Family Home in PL
    photo from the website
    https://garówka.elmar.pl/340-simon-basic-modul
    awow wrote:
    xury wrote:
    I hate Simon because of the very poor clamps and the inconvenience of assembly.

    I assemble quite a lot of Simon Basic and Simon 54, I think the quality of the screw terminals is at least good.

    I myself have this socket Simon Basic Module as shown in the picture and I think that it is very good quality and there was no problem with assembly.

Topic summary

✨ The discussion revolves around selecting Schuko sockets and switches for a single-family home in Poland, emphasizing the availability of various accessories such as motion sensors, illuminated sockets, and USB chargers. Participants confirm that there are no legal contraindications for using Schuko sockets in Poland, although some household appliances may not be compatible due to plug types. Recommendations include brands like Kos Vena, Schneider Sedna, and Karlik's Deco series, with mixed opinions on Simon products regarding assembly quality. The importance of ensuring that devices have appropriate plugs for safety is also highlighted.
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FAQ

TL;DR: For Polish single-family homes, spec USB wall chargers at e2,000 mA; "less than 2000mA doesn't make sense." Choose modular series for motion sensors, dimmers, and plan Schuko use around your plugs. [Elektroda, Borutka, post #17352696]

Why it matters: For homeowners and renovators in Poland, this avoids safety gaps and speeds choosing accessory-rich sockets and switches.

Quick Facts

  • Schuko (Type F) sockets are 16 A, 250 V with side earthing contacts; match circuit ratings accordingly. [Schuko]
  • Type E-only plugs wont earth in Schuko-only sockets; hybrid CEE 7/7 plugs fit both and maintain grounding. [CEE 7/7 plug]
  • Kontakt7Simon 54/Basic lines bundle motion sensors, USB chargers, dimmers, triple switches, and matching frames. [Elektroda, mawerix123, post #17348201]
  • Wall USB chargers: pick 2.082.4 A per port now; plan migration to USB5C and wireless. [Elektroda, Borutka, post #17352696]

Is it legal to use Schuko (Type F) sockets in Poland?

Yes. "There are no contraindications in the use of schuko sockets." Confirm device plug compatibility before finalizing your selection. [Elektroda, jakubek56, post #17348194]

Whats the main risk with Schuko in a Polish home?

Many appliances in Poland have Type E plugs. These will not earth in Schuko-only sockets. You lose shock protection. Use hybrid plugs or matching sockets. [Elektroda, kj1, post #17348830]

Do most new appliances use universal CEE 7/7 plugs?

An installer reports its hard to find non-universal plugs now. "It's hard to find one that is not universal." Check older equipment for type. [Elektroda, xury, post #17349191]

Which socket/switch series have lots of accessories (motion sensor, dimmer, USB, triple switch)?

Browse Kontakt7Simons ranges. Youll find motion sensors, USB chargers, dimmers, triple rockers, and matching frames. [Elektroda, mawerix123, post #17348201]

Are Simon clamps and assembly quality OK?

Opinions differ. One installer says clamp quality is "at least good" on Simon Basic and Simon 54. Try a sample first. [Elektroda, awow, post #17348632]

Do users recommend Simon Basic Module sockets?

Yes. A user reports very good quality and straightforward installation for the Simon Basic Module shown. Consider that feedback when choosing. [Elektroda, zibi900, post #17393909]

Which brands do installers like beyond Simon?

One installer favors Kos Vena and Schneider Sedna, and dislikes Simon for clamp quality and assembly convenience. [Elektroda, xury, post #17348576]

How much current should a built-in USB charger deliver?

Specify at least 2,000 mA per port. "It doesn't make sense to have less than 2000mA." Plan for USB5C and inductive charging. [Elektroda, Borutka, post #17352696]

Can unsafe adapters or cords cause shock?

Yes. A washing machine without proper earth delivered a shock during use. "It's a miracle that I am alive." Use earthed solutions only. [Elektroda, JacekCz, post #17350923]

How do I choose a series that fits my accessories?

Use this quick process.
  1. List required modules: motion sensor, dimmer, USB, triple switch.
  2. Check the brands catalog for module compatibility and frame sizes.
  3. Buy one set and verify assembly effort and clamp quality on-site. [Elektroda, mawerix123, post #17348201]

Do I need to replace my old appliances if I choose Schuko?

No. But Type E-only plugs will not earth in Schuko sockets. A user warns people may forget shock protection when renovating. Plan accordingly. [Elektroda, kj1, post #17349865]

Whats the spec difference between Type E and Schuko?

Type F (Schuko) uses side earthing contacts; Type E uses a protruding earth pin. Both are typically 16 A, 250 V. Hybrid CEE 7/7 plugs bridge the two. [Schuko]
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