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Citroen C5 X7 2011 LED License Plate Lighting Issue: Not Turning On Automatically, Allegro Purchase

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  • #1 17127732
    Gomes 40
    Level 10  
    Hello, I want to ask. My car is Citroen C5 X7 2011.
    I bought LED lamps to illuminate the register plates. from this auction from Allegro:
    / LED-array-Citroen-c2-c3-c4-c5-c6-berlingo-DS3
    Moderated By Mirek Z.:

    I removed part of the link to the auction - https://www.elektroda.pl/rtvforum/faq.php p. 3.1.18.


    The lamps are nice, but I have a problem. The backlight does not turn on automatically when the engine is started. In order for it to light up, I have to turn the lamp switch to " 0 "and again on" car ".
    I bought them about two weeks ago and made a complaint. The seller sent me a new set again. New llamas that arrive behave identically.
    I connected the original factory lighting with bulbs and there is no problem with them.
    Anybody knows what's going on?
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  • #2 17127805
    DiZMar
    Level 43  
    Does the voltage on the LED appear after starting the engine? If you cannot measure, connect LEDs and a traditional bulb in parallel. After starting the engine, what lights up?
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  • #3 17127826
    Gomes 40
    Level 10  
    After starting the engine, there is a short flash and they go out.
  • #4 17127833
    koks110
    Level 10  
    And ordinary light bulbs used to glow normally before? Check if there is still voltage after firing on the wire, if so, something must be wrong with the led lights.
  • #5 17127841
    DiZMar
    Level 43  
    Gomes 40 wrote:
    After starting the engine, there is a short flash and they go out.

    Does the voltage remain and the LEDs are off? Without a meter, you can check it with an ordinary light bulb. If the voltage remains, it is the fault of the LEDs. If not, and it appears only after the car's computer is turned off / on.
  • #6 17127854
    Gomes 40
    Level 10  
    Yes, I wrote above that I connected the factory lamps with bulbs and they shine correctly.
    I have the impression that the computer senses the LEDs and disconnects them.

    Added after 1 [minutes]:

    Tomorrow I will measure the voltage with the leds connected.
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  • #7 17127861
    Krzysztof Kamienski
    Level 43  
    The light controller detects too low current consumption in the lighting circuit. Nominally, two 5W bulbs are 10W, that is ~ 0.8A. And LEDs? Less than half of that.
  • #8 17127868
    DiZMar
    Level 43  
    Krzysztof Kamienski wrote:
    The light controller detects too low current consumption in the lighting circuit. Nominally, two 5W bulbs are 10W, that is ~ 0.8A. And LEDs? Less than half of that.

    Why the LEDs consume less electricity. The linked auction is
    Quote:
    CAN-BUS system - no burnt bulb error messages

    The driver should be "cheated" by LED lamps.
  • #9 17127869
    Gomes 40
    Level 10  
    It's just like DiZMar wrote earlier, if I connected the light bulbs in parallel, it should be ok.
  • #10 17127876
    koks110
    Level 10  
    The lights are probably without can and the computer can probably see the burnt bulb and turn off the power on them. You will need to replace the leds with stronger ones or add a condenser.
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  • #11 17127882
    DiZMar
    Level 43  
    Gomes 40 wrote:
    It's just like DiZMar wrote earlier, if I connected the light bulbs in parallel, it should be ok.

    If this is the case, however, contrary to what I wrote, the fault may be on the LED side - they do not pretend to be light bulbs sufficiently. They do not "cheat" the driver in the car.
  • #12 17128759
    Marian B
    Level 38  
    And here is the problem that in the case of CAN control, it makes no sense to use LED instead of bulbs, because you need to ensure adequate power consumption by this LED bulb by adding, for example, a resistor, which does not make sense at all, because LED is used to save electricity . Using an LED and an additional resistor pretending to be a light bulb? A bit nonsense.
    An imposing solution is simply a separate power supply for the LED. Actually, it is only one wire, because the mass already exists.
  • #13 17129217
    mariann
    Level 38  
    Hello
    koks110 wrote:
    or add a condenser


    I know about adding a resistor and how it works, but how does a capacitor help in this case and how should it be turned on?
    Best regards.
  • #14 17129483
    koks110
    Level 10  
    mariann wrote:
    Hello
    koks110 wrote:
    or add a condenser


    I know about adding a resistor and how it works, but how does a capacitor help in this case and how should it be turned on?
    Best regards.


    Sorry, my mistake, it was supposed to be a resistor, something else I thought and wrote something else.
  • #15 17130303
    Gomes 40
    Level 10  
    Thanks to everyone for your help.
    I will be looking for other lamps. :cry:
  • #16 17131104
    Szyszkownik Kilkujadek
    Level 37  
    @gomes 40 give it a rest and put them there, as provided by the manufacturer. By inserting LEDs in place of light bulbs, you risk even losing the registration certificate for a broken vehicle.
    PS
    One word:
    Gomes 40 wrote:
    I plugged

    Gomes 40 wrote:
    rozłancza

    Gomes 40 wrote:
    connected

    Gomes 40 wrote:
    podłąnczył

    and so many "varieties" :-D

Topic summary

The discussion revolves around a lighting issue with LED license plate lamps installed in a 2011 Citroen C5 X7. The user reports that the LED lights do not turn on automatically when the engine starts, requiring manual intervention to activate them. Responses suggest that the vehicle's computer may be detecting insufficient current draw from the LEDs compared to traditional bulbs, leading to the lights being turned off. Various solutions are proposed, including checking voltage levels, using resistors to simulate the load of standard bulbs, and considering the use of stronger LEDs or capacitors to ensure proper functionality. The user expresses intent to seek alternative lamps after receiving multiple sets with the same issue.
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