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[Solved] Skoda Octavia I 1.9 TDI 110 KM - Troubleshooting Reverse Light Sensor Issues

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  • #1 17154900
    slaw777
    Level 11  
    Hello. The subject of a cliche, but I decided to write it say nothing, I don't have a reverse light. I soldered a new plug to the installation when the other one was useless, it was cut and made to piece. I soldered a new plug into the installation, after bridging the plug, the reverse gear light is on, while after connecting to the reverse gear sensor, the one in the box because the reverse is selected, the reverse light does not light. I bought a second sensor, but present after connecting it only to the plug (not screwing it into the box) pressing the sensor switch works, i.e. when I press this sensor button, it works but not all the time (I thought that maybe this sensor has poor contacts and it connects once once not), but after screwing this new sensor in the box and plugging in the plug and selecting reverse gear - it does not work at all (no reversing light). I wonder what else the reason could be, apart from the sensor, of course, there is another reason for the reverse light not working?
    I checked the fuses - ok.
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    #2 17154941
    jacekwwy
    Level 19  
    slaw777 wrote:
    I wonder what else the reason could be, apart from the sensor, of course, there is another reason for the reverse light not working?

    If it works for a short time, the fault is the sensor, and more precisely the protruding "pin" which is most likely too short, the question is whether it is a sensor for this model?
  • #3 17154954
    slaw777
    Level 11  
    It seems to me that the length of the sensor pins that I had screwed into the crate (original) and the new one I bought, the pins are the same, I didn't measure it. The sensor was selected in the store, I gave VIN, there is no longer a pin, there is only a different way of mounting. I wonder if this sensor should be bought somewhere on the back in the original?
    I did not like this new sensor, that the plug did not click like on the original one, but even after pressing the plug to the screwed-in sensor, the reversing light did not work either.
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    #4 17154994
    jacekwwy
    Level 19  
    Then check the caliper depth of the "trigger" in the reverse gear in the gearbox, I do not know what it is professionally called and compare with the sensor whether it turns on at this depth. How many pins does this sensor 1 or 2 have?
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  • #5 17155096
    slaw777
    Level 11  
    2 pins, but listen to the one I have a damaged original sensor, it used to work, it is not enough to unscrew this new sensor and compare it with the damaged original, i.e. measure the length of this pin with a caliper. I think I already know what it is, on this new sensor they gave an aluminum washer about 1 mm thick (to prevent it from unscrewing the sensor and the thickness of the washer may be missing a "trigger", unless they did not do it in such an "intelligent" way ... it remains to unscrew the sensor and compare both the lengths of the original sensor and the new one and this thickness of the washer is the whole heart of the matter, if it turned out to be and I will remove the washer, then there will probably be no complaint about the sensor, ..
  • #6 17155157
    jacekwwy
    Level 19  
    slaw777 wrote:
    on this new sensor they gave an aluminum washer about 1 mm thick

    Do not remove the washer because it is a double protection, once against accidental unscrewing of the sensor, two university boxes against oil leakage, in my opinion 1 mm in this or that should not matter. In your case, it looks to me that something is wrong with the sensor or with the trigger in the gearbox, I don't know this car, but in some models the mechanism can bend a little, deform, but it is unlikely that such a failure is 1 in 10,000.
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  • #7 17155163
    slaw777
    Level 11  
    I will do it again, I will try to order a better sensor, eg Febi in the store and I will have a comparison of 3 sensors, I will compare in terms of 1 mm length, not much, but there is no washer on the original sensor, only a thread sealed with glue.
    I hope it will not be a failure of the mechanism in the box ...
  • #8 17155174
    jacekwwy
    Level 19  
    slaw777 wrote:
    will try to order a better sensor

    First, start with the cheapest and simplest ...... the caliper. gauge :) you can always buy the sensor :)
    Unless you want to make my mate on the switch :) :) :) just that was a bit annoying every time the reversing lights were turned on manually :)
  • #9 17155207
    slaw777
    Level 11  
    I can easily buy a sensor and I can return it up to 7 days if I do not install it, because I would not like to unscrew it a few times, as if it turned out that the one with this washer is much too short.
    I thought about this switch for a moment, but it's as if I had control on the road and checked the lights ;) the head does not hurt since the shrine, such a switch would be necessary during such an inspection ;)
  • #10 17158139
    slaw777
    Level 11  
    I ordered a new sensor today, is Mehle suitable, or should I pay a few pennies and take Febi?
    I will check their length after purchase and compare them with the original VW.
  • #11 17159152
    jacekwwy
    Level 19  
    slaw777 wrote:
    I ordered a new sensor today, is Mehle suitable, or should I pay a few pennies and take Febi?

    Take one that will work :P but measure the caliper on the chest first
    And in the sensor how much the "pin" protrudes, I ask just out of curiosity
  • #12 17159583
    slaw777
    Level 11  
    The length of the switch "pin" 6 mm, while the length of the threaded part plus the "pin" 25 mm
  • #13 17161804
    slaw777
    Level 11  
    jacekwwy wrote:
    slaw777 wrote:
    I ordered a new sensor today to see if Mehle will be suitable,

    Take one that will work :P but measure the caliper on the chest first
    And in the sensor how much the "pin" protrudes, I ask just out of curiosity


    And it turned out that I had to remove the pad and now it works nicely :) .
    As for the measurements of the pin in the box, each time whether the reverse gear was engaged or not, the measurement was 31 mm, I decided that I would throw out the washer and after removing the washer, the measurement from the edge of the sensor to the end of the "pin" was 25 mm, a bit missing to 31 mm, The fact is incomprehensible a bit, but there is nothing to worry about the details, it is important that the reverse gear light and reversing sensors work.
    Tomorrow I am going to return the sensor, because the one I bought also gave the washer, paranoia can not even fully reproduce the replacement.
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  • #14 17162632
    jacekwwy
    Level 19  
    slaw777 wrote:
    Well, it turned out that I had to remove this washer and now it works nicely:

    Then for a while, pay attention to whether you are leaking anything
    slaw777 wrote:
    As for the measurements of the pin in the box, each time whether the reverse gear is engaged or not, the measurement was 31 mm,

    A very strange thing, and maybe ask someone to turn on / off the reverse gear and you should check it again, e.g. with a nail or something bends
  • #15 17162676
    slaw777
    Level 11  
    jacekwwy wrote:
    slaw777 wrote:
    Well, it turned out that I had to remove this washer and now it works nicely:

    Then for a while, pay attention to whether you are leaking anything

    I put Loctite thread glue on the sensor thread - it should seal the connection and secure against loosening.

    slaw777 wrote:
    As for the measurements of the pin in the box, each time whether the reverse gear is engaged or not, the measurement was 31 mm,

    A very strange thing, and maybe ask someone to turn on / off the reverse gear and you should check it again, e.g. with a nail or something bends


    I took measurements several times, including the reverse gear and excluding both measurements, they were 31 mm, while the sensor after removing the washer was 25 mm like the original VW sensor (which was damaged, checked with an ohmmeter).
    I will just add that this VW sensor was also glued.
  • #16 17162828
    jacekwwy
    Level 19  
    Maybe you are right it works, it works and there is no need to go further and look for no one knows what :) :)
  • #17 17162861
    slaw777
    Level 11  
    Yes, because you can overdo it :) .
    I have two more errors, one of them 01314 - Engine Control Module?
  • #18 17162878
    dr.master
    Level 39  
    Do you have a hidden firing button?
    Any problems with ABS?
    It's best to do a full scan and see which specific module this error is from.
    After deleting, the error returns?
  • #19 17162890
    slaw777
    Level 11  
    dr.master wrote:
    Masz ukryty przycisk do odpalania ?
    Nie mam.
    Jakieś problemy z ABSem ?
    Nie.

    Najlepiej zrobić pełny skan i zobaczyć z którego konkretnie modułu jest ten błąd.
    Pełny skan
    VAG-COM Version: Release 311.2-N


    Chassis Type: 1U - Skoda Octavia
    Scan: 01,02,03,08,15,17,19,35,46,56

    Address 01 -------------------------------------------------------
    Controller: 038 906 012 CL
    Component: 1,9l R4 EDC 0110SG 3316
    Coding: 00002
    Shop #: WSC 21084
    TMBBP21U712437257 SKZ7Z0Y0580496
    3 Faults Found:
    18062 - Please check DTC Memory of Instrument Cluster
    P1654 - 35-00 - -
    17656 - Injection Start Regulation: Control Deviation
    P1248 - 35-10 - - - Intermittent
    17978 - Engine Start Blocked by Immobilizer
    P1570 - 35-00 - -
    Readiness: N/A

    Address 03 -------------------------------------------------------
    Controller: 1C0 907 379 D
    Component: ASR FRONT MK60 0103
    Coding: 0021505
    Shop #: WSC 31480
    1 Fault Found:
    01314 - Engine Control Module
    013 - Check DTC Memory - Intermittent

    Address 08 -------------------------------------------------------
    Controller: 1U1 907 044 A
    Component: CLIMATRONIC C 0.7.0
    Coding: 01000
    Shop #: WSC 31480
    No fault code found.

    Skipping Address 15-Airbags

    Address 17 -------------------------------------------------------
    Controller: 1U0 920 810 F
    Component: KOMBI+WEGFAHRSP VDO V04
    Coding: 03112
    Shop #: WSC 00186
    TMBBP21U712437257 SKZ7Z0Y0580496
    1 Fault Found:
    00562 - Sensor for Oil Level/Temperature (G266)
    30-00 - Open or Short to B+

    Address 19 -------------------------------------------------------
    Controller: 6N0 909 901
    Component: Gateway KCAN 0001
    Coding: 00006
    Shop #: WSC 31480
    No fault code found.

    Address 46 -------------------------------------------------------
    Controller: 1J0 959 799 AH
    Component: 5H Zentral-SG Komf. 0001
    Coding: 04097
    Shop #: WSC 31480
    5 Faults Found:
    00953 - Interior Light Time limit
    25-10 - Unknown Switch Condition - Intermittent
    01329 - Convenience System Data Bus in Emergency Mode
    35-00 - -
    01333 - Door Control Module: Rear Left (J388)
    49-10 - No Communications - Intermittent
    00930 - Locking Module for Central Locking: Rear Left (F222)
    54-10 - Incorrectly Equipped - Intermittent
    00930 - Locking Module for Central Locking: Rear Left (F222)
    27-00 - Implausible Signal

    End -------------------------------------






    Po skasowaniu błąd wraca ?

    Tak - bład już jest dłuższy czas

    Dodano po 14 [godziny] 36 [minuty]:

    Głównie chodzi mi o ten błąd:

    Address 03 -------------------------------------------------------
    Controller: 1C0 907 379 D
    Component: ASR FRONT MK60 0103
    Coding: 0021505
    Shop #: WSC 31480
    1 Fault Found:
    01314 - Engine Control Module
    013 - Check DTC Memory - Intermittent
  • #20 17215371
    slaw777
    Level 11  
    I am closing the topic, the reverse gear sensor works, I did not use an additional switch, which would be really very troublesome.

Topic summary

The discussion revolves around troubleshooting reverse light sensor issues in a Skoda Octavia I 1.9 TDI. The user initially replaced a faulty sensor and plug but encountered persistent problems with the reverse light not functioning. Various suggestions were made, including checking the sensor pin length, the depth of the trigger in the gearbox, and the possibility of using a washer affecting the sensor's operation. After multiple attempts and comparisons with original parts, the user found that removing the washer resolved the issue, allowing the reverse light to function correctly. The conversation also touched on potential error codes related to the engine control module, but the primary focus remained on the reverse light sensor functionality.
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