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Choosing the Right Monitoring Cable: Twisted Pair vs Coaxial Cable for Home Surveillance

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  • #1 17178585
    blusss1
    Level 10  
    I warmly welcome,
    What cable should be laid for monitoring at home? Because I read and stupid already, how many professionals so many opinions and one opinion excludes another, one writes that there is bad image quality on the twisted pair and only praises coaxial cables. + 2x0.5 for power supply. The other writes that concentric is obsolete and that now it is only twisted pair (and if twisted pair is a specific type, some recommend cat5, others write a quote: "cat 6e at least, CAT5 was 10 years ago"). Still others lay shielded and make adapters to IP cameras using HD video transformers: http://www.e-alarmy.pl/5829p-pix-tr1dc-rj-hd---zestaw-transformatorow-video-hd.html

    So how is it with these cables? and with the cameras themselves? I will be grateful in advance for professional advice, because I am in front of plasters and I want to put it so that in the future you can have the use of monitoring what is happening on my property and not spit in my chin if in a few years it turns out that something is outdated .
    greetings
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  • #2 17178607
    xury
    Automation specialist
    Lay the twisted pair with a good quality CAT5.
    In addition, attach the power cables then you will then apply any camera system.
    The poor quality of "no IP" cameras over twisted pair is not true. If the lengths of cables are too long then you can release the power via the twisted pair.
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  • #3 17178623
    blusss1
    Level 10  
    Ok, give me only a good quality CAT5 bearing and I buy that (or producer) because allegro says that they have good quality cables. Only do I really understand it - IP cameras go to the router (via twisted pair with power supply?) Directly and I can (but do not have to) connect to the router to record? And with CCTV, first cameras to the recorder + power supply, and then the recorder to the network if I want to have a preview via the Internet (and in this case a coaxial cable)?
  • #4 17178681
    dawidedziu
    Industrial cameras specialist
    Good twisted pair are eg Bitner, Emiternet, LinkBasic. You have a lot of such topics about systems, look for and read.
    Helpful post? Buy me a coffee.
  • #5 17184701
    patdawnow
    Level 7  
    I bought the twisted pair for about PLN 90 and for about PLN 280, if you want to make sure everything will work, I definitely recommend the more expensive one. These 100% CUs are really hard and it's a pleasure to put them in them, not like the cheaper ones. If you want to have power from the twisted pair then you need to have a POE (power over ethernet) switch with a maximum distance of 100m, but also the quality of the twisted pair.
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  • #7 17185082
    michualex

    Level 24  
    dawidedziu wrote:
    Selected switches will handle much more than 100m.


    If there is a possibility, it should stick to the rule up to 100m.

    None of the sellers will assure you that a switch that has up to 250m written will work for you on the installation. I checked with various suppliers and the technical department will not be able to explain

    In my opinion, this is the last solution that should be used. The most commonly used should be when someone has laid the wires and we have a distance above 100m.
  • #8 17185216
    Chris_W

    Level 39  
    blusss1 wrote:
    Ok, give me only a good quality CAT5 bearing and I buy that (or producer) because allegro says that they have good quality cables. Only do I really understand it - IP cameras go to the router (via twisted pair with power supply?) Directly and I can (but do not have to) connect to the router to record? And with CCTV, first cameras to the recorder + power supply, and then the recorder to the network if I want to have a preview via the Internet (and in this case a coaxial cable)?

    The difference between IP cameras and AHD (CVI and various analog - what you call industrial television) - is that the IP camera has a built-in webserver (the network address itself has an "http site", you can "enter" it and set it ") works in LAN as a network device, twisted pair and 8p8c plugs (rj45) are used for connections, and the AHD camera is plug & play - no passwords, no login - you just need to connect it - you can use a coaxial cable, and you can use twisted pair (by transformers), the plugs are BNC - the signal is digital quality comparable to IP - although the connection method brings to mind an analog signal.
    Registrar in the first case must be hooked up to the network to see the cameras and to have remote access to it (there may be a router without access to the Internet, it is about creating a lan network structure), and in the other maybe be connected to the network to have remote access.
    In general, for me, a more flexible system is IP, but it is more difficult to "work around", I would definitely lay down an FTP twist (bitner), because you will do any system on it. I probably would not use additional wires to power the cameras - if it's a house, I assume that the distances will not be big, you'll power on the twisted pair.
  • #9 17185645
    dariusz.bembenek
    Stationary Alarms specialist
    Such a small detail: classic analog (CVBS) and popular technologies CVI, TVI, AHD are analog signals.
  • #11 17186242
    dawidedziu
    Industrial cameras specialist
    Personally, I would not choose it (if I did not have it in my hands), although the description shows that it is great. Go to some local warehouse and check what they have.
    Helpful post? Buy me a coffee.
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  • #13 17186759
    pol102
    VIP Meritorious for electroda.pl
    I would choose any twisted pair because we can go after it with all the analog and effects vide AHD, CVI etc and DUHD (!) And IP.
  • #15 17187315
    blusss1
    Level 10  
    It may be as the previous speaker writes that he did not get along with the investor and he has a lot of it, the price is very low for quality, I also have a bitner which you recommended in the forum, the price is very similar only for F / UTP kat.5e http : //allegro.pl/polski-kabel-skretka-w-ekranie-ftp-5e-bitner-miedz-i6761436329.html
    I am thinking now whether to take a chance and take S / UTP or buy a proven F / UTP?

Topic summary

The discussion revolves around the choice of cables for home surveillance systems, specifically comparing twisted pair cables (like CAT5 and CAT6) and coaxial cables. Users express confusion over varying opinions on image quality and compatibility with different camera types. Recommendations favor high-quality twisted pair cables for IP cameras, emphasizing the importance of using Power over Ethernet (PoE) switches for power supply. Brands such as Bitner, Emiternet, and LinkBasic are mentioned as reliable options for twisted pair cables. The conversation also touches on the differences between IP cameras and analog systems, with a preference for IP systems due to their flexibility and built-in web servers. Users are advised to consider cable quality and installation distance, with a general guideline of keeping lengths under 100 meters for optimal performance.
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