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Laguna 3 2.0dci 150km: Excessive Smoke & 14L Consumption in City - Solutions/Experiences?

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  • #1 17227124
    Masek128
    Level 7  
    Hello gentlemen! I have a lagoon 3 2.0 dci 150km. The toy car is good, it doesn't smoke, it has power But it smokes a lot in the city, namely 14 liters. Has anyone ever had such a case?
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  • #2 17227244
    decybel91
    Level 42  
    Damaged injectors or flow meter or blocked EGR and DPF.
  • #3 17227441
    DjMapet
    Level 43  
    There are no fairies here, so KLIP will tell you the truth. :-)

    Regards.
  • #4 17230068
    Masek128
    Level 7  
    Today on the route to Łódź speed 140-150 km / h burning 8 liters! I think it's quite good combustion. But these 14 around the city is a massacre. I don't think that injection would kick. But yes And as a friend of mapet says the clip will tell the truth soonest
  • #5 17233333
    Masek128
    Level 7  
    Today, gentlemen, I noticed that you feel fuel from oil, so this can be the reason for a large combustion. On Wednesday, I have an appointment to hook up the car and if I know what's going on, I'll let you know
  • #6 17233657
    decybel91
    Level 42  
    Fuel in oil - unburned DPF>
  • #7 17234039
    Masek128
    Level 7  
    Buddy decibel but you also had such a case? Friends tell me that they can also sit injection
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  • #8 17234898
    decybel91
    Level 42  
    Damaged injections would cause kicking or hard work during rapid acceleration.
  • #9 17235436
    Strumien swiadomosci swia
    Level 43  
    Either way, don't ride it because you may end up with a hole in the crowd.
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  • #10 17235974
    Masek128
    Level 7  
    Yesterday hooking up the clip and dpf collapsed. Regeneration procedure done, today oil change and observation if oil does not pour further. But surely the dpf was collapsed. And egr for cleaning.
  • #11 17236315
    genek1000
    Level 35  
    And the chest is not a machine sometimes :?:
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  • #12 17559533
    mario7911
    Level 9  
    Hello. And what does the automatic transmission have to do with it? ? I have the same situation!
  • #13 17559729
    Strumien swiadomosci swia
    Level 43  
    mario7911 wrote:
    And what does the automatic transmission have to do with it?

    And the machines in the city smoke like dragons.
  • #14 17559804
    mario7911
    Level 9  
    Tz how much? Mine doesn't want to fire me I thought it was injection molding. My average in the city shows 9-10 liters / 100
  • #15 17622439
    zelmiak
    Level 8  
    And how did the topic end? Because I smoked a lot, was it enough to burn?
  • #16 17622530
    mario7911
    Level 9  
    The fuel pump started filing and everything went for injection regeneration of the pump 1100 new injection 2700 and washing the fuel system 4500 :-(
  • #17 17623040
    zelmiak
    Level 8  
    Do not scare me. What about how many kilometers the fuel filter was changed? Are these particles so small that the filter does not spill out? I heard about this in a4 b8
  • #18 17623049
    mario7911
    Level 9  
    These are micro filings, the guy showed me my pump, but probably it is already in these cars mine had 230 thousand
  • #19 17623072
    zelmiak
    Level 8  
    Good to know. Thank you for the information. Regards
  • #20 17623120
    Strumien swiadomosci swia
    Level 43  
    zelmiak wrote:
    What about how many kilometers the fuel filter was changed? Are these particles so small that the filter does not spill out?

    After all, it is a toilet pump and not the one in the tank so the filter has nothing to it.
  • #21 18672909
    krzysz73tof
    Level 2  
    Good day. For several months I have owned Laguna 3 2.0 dci 150 HP, r. Prof. 2012 phase 2, coupe body. Fuel consumption exceeds that provided by the manufacturer, namely around the city, with very gentle driving you can not go below 8 liters. I know someone wrote here about 14 in the city - this is the way to go. On the route, not much, because between 5.5 - 6.0 - also driving very economically. According to the manufacturer, it should be around 4.0 and around 6.5 in the city. Why am I writing about this?
    The wife drives every day Renault fluence 1.5 dci 90 km and achieving the wear declared by the manufacturer is quite real. Under what conditions does the manufacturer test vehicles obtaining such results? My previous car was a Vw Touran 1.9 tdi 105 HP with a 140 HP program, heavier and taller than the Lagoon and smoked less in the city, also on a 105 HP program. Factory fuel consumption could be achieved in real life. Is everything ok with my lagoon? In the summer I plan to go to some specialists from the diagnosis, because despite the fact that 8 liters is not 14 but in my opinion it is too much.
  • #22 18673165
    DjMapet
    Level 43  
    Look for a good specialist around the CLIP diagnostic program. This will definitely reveal and eliminate any engine shortcomings.
    Although your Lagoon's engine appetite is not that great and may also be due to its course.

    In principle, you should set up your own thread.

    Greetings.
  • #23 18676934
    genek1000
    Level 35  
    According to my view, connecting to CLIP will not help much. If the engine does not kick black and does not require frequent DPF burnings or oil changes, then the combustion is correct.
    krzysz73tof wrote:
    According to the manufacturer, it should be around 4.0 and around 6.5 in the city

    Nobody believes in such fairy tales. :D
    Combustion is, among others, a reflection of how much resistance the vehicle has to overcome to move.
    These resistances include size and width and type of tires. The condition of the suspension and braking system, the speed at which the vehicle moves, the installation of additional "bodywork", energy consumption "on board", etc. Most often the main factor causing increased fuel consumption is also the "manager"
    krzysz73tof wrote:
    The wife drives every day Renault fluence 1.5 dci 90 km and achieving the wear declared by the manufacturer is quite real.

    I suggest an experiment. Swap cars with my wife for a month. :D
    In the course of my professional work, I did some hundred test drives with clients complaining about high fuel consumption. It never happened that I would not fit in the average declared combustion in + max. 0.5 liter. :D
    What's better, knowing all these rules, my car smokes on average 50% more than declared by the manufacturer :D
  • #24 20430680
    Doppelganger
    Level 1  
    krzysz73tof wrote:
    Good morning. I have had Laguna 3 2.0 dci 150 KM for several months, prof. 2012 phase 2, coupe body. Fuel consumption exceeds that provided by the manufacturer, namely in the city, with very gentle driving it is impossible to go below 8 liters. I know that someone here wrote about 14 in the city - it can be done. On the route, not much, because between 5.5 - 6.0 - also driving very economically. According to the manufacturer, it should be about 4.0 on the road and about 6.5 in the city. Why am I writing about this?
    The wife drives a Renault fluence 1.5 dci 90 km every day and achieving the consumption declared by the manufacturer is quite realistic. Under what conditions does the manufacturer test vehicles with such results? My previous car was a Vw Touran 1.9 tdi 105 HP with a 140 HP program, heavier and taller than the Laguna and it smoked less around the city, also on the 105 HP program. The factory fuel consumption could be achieved in real life. Is my lagoon okay? In the summer, I plan to go to some diagnostic specialists, because even though 8 liters is not 14, I still think it's too much.


    8 liters is too much. there must be something wrong. 8 liters will pull on the highway at 160 km/h. I have two lagoons, 150Km manual and 175 HP GT. And there is a problem with this GT: the counter shows that it burns 5 liters and it really pulls 8. I have to check what's going on. Maybe someone has encountered it.

    Added after 12 [minutes]:

    They don't smoke like dragons. Maybe 3 liters of petrol is like that. I have one and when it enters the city, the route was 8 and in the city it was 11.5, but 2.0 hdi - nothing like that.
    However, I have a problem with low fuel consumption - and it's a lot - in Laguna GT 175 automatic. It shows fuel consumption, for example, 6.3, and it goes down to 10. Today I checked it on a full tank, I gently did 100 km, indication 5.1, 8 enters the tank. But I checked it on the road yesterday, because I did maybe 510 km and flooded ... 46 liters fuel. Normal driving with which it should be max 6.5 liters compared to a 150 horsepower manual. But the tank tip doesn't lie anymore, you can see how the fuel goes down, it's half and then the distance counter shows that it's supposed to be 700 km to do, but later it adjusts the less there is in the tank. The given combustion does not correspond to the real combustion.
  • #25 20431197
    krzysz73tof
    Level 2  
    I once had such a case in a Touran 1.9 Tdi: freshly after buying the car, the computer showed fuel consumption at approx. 5 l / 100 km, and after refueling from my calculations (km traveled and the number of liters refueled) it was 7.5 ...
    A visit to a good car specialist and it turned out that the ignition was incorrectly set, which caused the computer to calculate incorrectly - it underestimated fuel consumption. After setting the ignition, the computer began to show more and the real fuel consumption decreased slightly. The theoretical and real fuel consumption differed by maybe a few tenths of a liter ...

    Added after 11 [minutes]:

    And back to my Laguna coupe (record from May 6, 2020) - I still drive it, I’m very happy. After a few years of operation, I can say that we "reached" and understood each other.
    It burns a little less around the city, but this is due to the fact that I often (unfortunately!) drive on short trips, i.e. with a cold engine, and then there is no need to expect the engine to burn 6 liters - because that’s probably what the catalog / manual says. There are no miracles. Traffic jams, more and more traffic, more people standing in the city than driving. I prefer to take a roundabout route myself to avoid traffic jams and although I cover a greater distance, I will probably sleep the same. Of course, I treat the accelerator gently. Warm engine - less fuel and engine wear. The route - superek, you need to "blow" the engine and dpf. Excellent fuel consumption. Depending on the speed and driving style, from 5 liters upwards. I managed to "go down" below 5 a few times, but it was a "grandfather’s" ride.
  • #26 20474762
    genek1000
    Level 35  
    krzysz73tof wrote:
    And back to my Laguna coupe (record from May 6, 2020) - I still drive it, I'm very happy. After a few years of operation, I can say that we "reached" and understood each other.
    It burns a little less around the city, but this is due to the fact that I often (unfortunately!) drive on short trips, i.e. with a cold engine, and then there is no need to expect the engine to burn 6 liters - because that's probably what the catalog / manual says. There are no miracles. Traffic jams, more and more traffic, more people standing in the city than driving. I prefer to take a roundabout route myself to avoid traffic jams and although I cover a greater distance, I will probably sleep the same. Of course, I treat the accelerator gently. Warm engine - less fuel and engine wear. The route - superek, you need to "blow" the engine and dpf. Excellent fuel consumption. Depending on the speed and driving style, from 5 letters upwards. I managed to "go down" below 5 a few times, but it was a "grandfather's" ride.

    The voice of reason 👍 .
    Sometimes it takes time to come to certain conclusions on your own 👍
  • #27 20710951
    waldekmarkoski
    Level 1  

    Properly operated Laguna 3 Grandtour should consume: 100 km/h - 4.1 l/100 km, at 120 km/h - 5 liters, 130 km/h - 6.5 l, 140 km/h - 7 to 7.5 l.

Topic summary

The discussion revolves around a Renault Laguna 3 2.0 dCi with excessive fuel consumption of 14 liters per 100 km in city driving and noticeable smoke. Users suggest potential causes including damaged injectors, a faulty flow meter, or issues with the EGR and DPF systems. One user reported improved highway fuel consumption of 8 liters at high speeds, indicating a possible city-specific issue. Concerns about fuel mixing with oil were raised, leading to a diagnostic appointment to check for DPF collapse and EGR cleaning. Other users shared similar experiences with high consumption and emphasized the importance of proper diagnostics using the CLIP program to identify underlying issues. The conversation also touched on the impact of driving conditions and vehicle maintenance on fuel efficiency.
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