[Solved] Creating a GSM Faraday Cage for Child's Room: Blocking Signals, Window Solutions & More!

Hello,
Please advise if it is feasible that there is no GSM / wifi signal in the child's room?
Do you already know why this topic? Needless to explain ...

I was thinking about the GSM jammer, but it has a power of 60m, so the appropriate services would visit me quickly. The cage would consist of a copper mesh grounded under the plaster. The question remains, what about the window and balcony? How tight does it have to be? Maybe just like in laptops, i.e. paint electrolyzing the casing?

Maybe some other better ideas?
Best regards and thank you

from one of the pages on the internet
Homemade Faraday's can
Those who need to protect larger electronic equipment or to conduct experiments away from electromagnetic interference can make a large Faraday cage out of a piece of furniture or a small room in their home.

For this purpose, all walls, floor, ceiling, crevices, gaps, etc. or the interior, e.g. of a wardrobe, should be covered with thick aluminum foil.

If a cage is to be a room, an insulator must be placed on the floor, e.g. a fibreboard or a cotton carpet.

You can also cover everything with polystyrene or sponge, or any other material that does not conduct electricity.

I wonder why you want to do this at home and protect your baby in this way? I have to understand that in this cage the child will live all the time and will not leave the house, it is like with preschool diseases, parents bring up at least sterile conditions so that the child is healthy and then goes to kindergarten and grabs everything and from everyone .
There is no help for that, you have to live with it

The need is very simple to explain.
The child is so big that the classic methods are not enough and still stupid enough to hang out late at night on communicators. Any better idea? I will pay a lot.

Hello

It is impossible, the windows and doors would also have to be covered with a net, it would look at least strange, and the child would know what to do with the net after just one day.

The easiest solution is to pick up the phone at certain times.
The evening is over, the phone ends up in the parents' basket, gets up to school in the morning and takes the phone.

You just have to teach the child and that's it, locking in a cage is the worst idea you could think of, because the house is not supposed to be a prison.

greetings

Thank you, you are doing fine.
I am also thinking about some very weak gsm jammer within 3m. It is possible?

pdusp wrote:

The child is so old that the classical methods are not enough

I wonder what these methods were used?

pdusp wrote:

The need is very simple to explain.
The child is so big that the classic methods are not enough and still stupid enough to hang out late at night on communicators. Any better idea? I will pay a lot.

and you see, now you have given an explanation of what you want to do this for , I thought you wanted to protect a little child this way ....... The method like above is OK and it works . icosie wrote well on the other hand (I do not know what it is like with other operators), I can block my mobile phone to use the internet at home, unfortunately it means that I would have to block and unblock it via the operator's website every time.

A good GSM jammer, which a modern cell phone cannot handle, will cost you a fortune. Today's telephones get along with the "base" on a dozen or so different frequencies, and everything is modulated. So such a jammer must transmit "garbage" in all these bands, which will jam the signal. It will work like a solid microwave at home, it can have an impact on the health (or well-being) of the household, unfortunately.

There are such devices, they cost about PLN 4,000, you can set the power in them, freely to the broadcasting channel, so that it drowns out WiFi and GSM, but you could, for example, watch TV with DVB-T.

But I don't know if, without professional measuring equipment, you will set it up so that there is no range in the child's room, and you in the room or at your neighbors upstairs have range. Plus, the device would have to be in the child's room, and after a few days, you'll have a paper support brick for 4,000. because the child found a way to kill the machine After all, as you wrote: "... is already big enough ..."



greetings

In general, you can buy the simplest phone starter without internet access on the phone and set the Wi-Fi working hours on the router, or a WiFi availability schedule for a given device. After this time, the router cuts off the net for the toy data.

There are also applications for phones, thanks to which the phone provides the parent with detailed reports on what the child does, how many calls are made, and in general, it keeps a good eye on all the time, not only at home.
Probably even tracking where and where the child is moving.

For this you can set DNSy on the phone on symantec with family filter, etc. an ocean of possibilities.

From popular apps: Norton Family Premier, Eset Parental Controll, Phone Sherif.
There is also an app: lock to learn, which locks the phone during certain hours.

Apple probably had some soft for preconfiguring devices for universities and institutions, so you could somehow limit the functionality (I think).

Unfortunately, I will not help any more, usually when my friends report, I should advise something, because young naked bodies are watching ^^

In a few years I will be smarter, because I will be doing parental controls for my kids on their phones.
In general, I support the previous speakers that some frames are an exaggeration, and if it is not going to talk, the software will disrupt the phone so that it will not do anything at night.

Unfortunately, the only best and easiest solution is to pick up the phone at certain times, the child will be offended at the very beginning, etc., etc. and spending as much money as he writes icosie is not profitable and it will throw your money away.

My parents thought differently almost 18 years ago:

In the third grade of elementary school, I got a call so that my parents could contact me (they both worked irregular hours and somehow it turned out). As a young toddler, I quickly understood how to write an SMS with my friends (the peak of the possibilities at the time) in the evening. My parents didn't like it because I didn't want to sleep and I spent a lot on text messages (PLN 1.23 each). So they got the idea to interest me in the book, then it fell on Harry. And I finished texting, I got hooked on like a fool, and since then I've been reading something every evening, even a newspaper article.

The fact that now there are a lot of possibilities on the Internet and it will be difficult this way, but maybe there will be another one. Let's say: modeling, sketching, learning programming, etc. etc. You have to find something that will interest the child and is not related to the smartphone, the rest will recommend somehow.

[quote = "icosie"] My parents thought differently almost 18 years ago:

In the third grade of elementary school, I got a call so that my parents could contact me (they both worked irregular hours and somehow it turned out). As a young toddler, I quickly understood how to write an SMS with my friends (the peak of the possibilities at the time) in the evening. My parents didn't like it because I didn't want to sleep and I spent a lot on text messages (PLN 1.23 each). So they got the idea to interest me. [/ Quote

Unfortunately, this case is more complicated
Heavy guns have to be brought out ...

Or maybe let the child do what he does, but also brutally take the consequences of it, and not produce another newfangled failure, as he collapses several times in a row to block the SIM card. The greater punishment will be embarrassing. You can also risk drug addiction. Popular topic. More seriously - you definitely pick up the toy after an hour or so.

pdusp wrote:

I am also thinking about some very weak gsm jammer within 3m. It is possible?

A good jammer, a 100% effective method.
Basic disadvantages:
- against the law
- source of RF radiation in close proximity
- in a crisis situation, it is not possible to quickly notify the emergency services!

Rather, a young person should be inclined to speak to reason, and how the gradual introduction of restrictions does not react, such as:
- phone arrest (the cheapest solution) temporary or long-term
- taking over the phone management (application for the phone, by the operator's website)
- organize a more intense day for the young person so that in the evening they will incline to sleep more

A difficult topic to maintain proper parent-child relations.

Good luck.

Not so long ago you got fucked from your father, you were sitting on your ears to your ass, you weren't fit for it and somehow it was ok. Bostaleś a penalty on Tv or a computer e going out somewhere but you were alive. The phone is a useful toy, at least until you go to work, then it starts to irritate.

fuutro you are right those were the times now this own child can go to the police and say that his parents are abusing him and that he has no civil liberties :)

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AdamC wrote:

pdusp wrote:

I am also thinking about some very weak gsm jammer within 3m. It is possible?

A good jammer, a 100% effective method.
Basic disadvantages:
- against the law
- source of RF radiation in close proximity
- in a crisis situation, it is not possible to quickly notify the emergency services!
Good luck.

I was also wondering if it would be legal and the neighbors would quickly notify whomever they had to disrupt.

arekopo wrote:

now this own child can go to the police and say that his parents are abusing him and that he has no civil liberties

Exactly. What's the worst, he may also complain that he is making it difficult to gain knowledge (internet ...), the result is the same - the child can do anything, the parent can do nothing ... or mobbing.

The curse came true - We are just living in "interesting times" ...

Currently, there are so many Android / iOS apps that should do the trick.
Perhaps the KidsLox program has the ability to declare access hours to the phone.

Only these interesting times are associated with "you graduated from school? - Fuck your adult independent man." By the way, during stupid conversations with the family doctor, it turned out that the workaround is "non-parents", so if you want to embrace a younger brother, for example, take matters into your own hands - they will not take the child away from you
The second option - does not fit? These are different places than the family home. Wish it could. For now, it might be worth spending a while with the operator.

I use ESET Parental Control on Android - I am satisfied, my daughter (10 years old) is not
I recommend.

Replace a new cell with an old one, one that does not have wifi, and gprs is the peak of possibilities. In addition, we put the condition of a modern turn and after a temporary rebellion, cooperation begins. "Dziadkofon" in the hands of a young man is very embarrassing. Tested successfully

robig wrote:

Replace a new cell with an old one, one that does not have wifi, and gprs is the peak of possibilities. In addition, we put the condition of a modern turn and after a temporary rebellion, cooperation begins. "Dziadkofon" in the hands of a young man is very embarrassing. Tested successfully

"Dziadkofon" hahaha good good, it's a big embarrassment for a young man.

Kraniec_Internetów wrote:

Some routers have something like a WiFi schedule. A simple matter - turns Wifi on and off at certain times. You can make a second network yourself without a schedule.

I did it at home - a TP-Link router with OpenWRT. All of the kids' toys (phones, computers, tablets) that connect to the internet are disconnected from the "global village" at 8pm and reconnected at 8am the next day.
In the beginning there was rebellion and despair, but now it's OK and they don't even complain - they accepted the situation
The most interesting thing is that for kids a phone or a computer without Internet access is a useless toy.

Pong.Chu wrote:

I have such a box I bought at dx.com

Which box exactly is it?

I suspect that one of my neighbors has something like that.
There were similar circuses before, but for six months it was quiet for 2 days circuses the phone has full range and then people ask why I cannot be reached. The case is so pathological that if I was really out of reach, I should get an SMS notification that someone was hitting me (Orange network) - no notification.

Generally, hands are dropping, I think it will have to be reported somewhere, because I have seen a guy under my block with a frequency scanner once, he was around for 3 days, he was probably looking for a "mandy" who was to blame for such anomalies.
Searching on the network, I found that such circuses can cause GSM amplifiers for what I install it will be better, but the rest will be a massacre with coverage. Please do not write that it is the fault of the phone or the sim card because I replaced both of these things and it was the same for the old ones.



Anyone know where to report it?

E8600 wrote:

Anyone know where to report it?

It is good to interest the GSM operator in this problem, and if you think that it is a problem caused by the installation of amplifiers, the competent authority for inspection is the Office of Electronic Communications https://www.uke.gov.pl/.
Reporting disturbances in a branch of UKE appropriate to the place of occurrence.

pdusp wrote:

The need is very simple to explain.
The child is so big that the classic methods are not enough and still stupid enough to hang out late at night on communicators. Any better idea? I will pay a lot.

Important information at the beginning:
until the child reaches the age of majority, the parent / guardian is legally responsible for the child
and it is he who decides what the child / minor has access to.
I assume that the parent has no court-limited guardianship.

After a certain time, take the "toy" and, observing the reaction, make a decision; if you scream and muck - it's a bit too late and you have to go to a psychiatrist with your wife, and then with your child; if you cry - hug and promise that the regret will pass, like a toothache.
When taking one toy, give another one, but one that is appropriate and valuable enough for the child to compensate for the regret for the one you took. Demonstrate your paternity and decide what it should be.

Someone previously advised - and I will remind you: in the past, reading appropriate to the age worked wonders, in the following order: lullaby, fairy tale, fairy tale read and finally stories read independently.

The main thing - not to get maneuvered into any "correctness".
Few people know that the law is not only behind the children, but also behind the parents, and the myths about "stress-free rearing" are just myths and fairy tales.