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Bluetooth 2.1 + EDR module for wireless headphones - TZT PCBA AUDIO - Test

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  • I've been mulling over the idea of converting my wired Philips headphones, into Bluetooth headphones, with the option of a cable. I also want to convert my Dad's headphones (can't remember the manufacturer, but they play very decently). Admittedly, I already have one Bluetooth headphone, but "over-the-ear" (in the sense of an open design), and they would still be useful with a full shell.

    I ordered a couple of different Bluetooth units because they were cheap, and listening remotely isn't possible.
    I checked out maybe seven or eight of them, but they were either too big, or required a processor to work (which would make it much harder to stuff the whole thing into the headphone shells), or didn't have a charger on board, (which again forces you to stuff yet another board into the headphones). There were also those that seemingly met the requirements, but the sound quality was unacceptable.

    I finally came across the chip, which will be the guest of today's article.
    Below, as usual, is a photo from the auction:

    Bluetooth 2.1 + EDR module for wireless headphones - TZT PCBA AUDIO - Test .

    As you can see, as of today it comes out to less than ten Polish zloty. I paid 8,85PLN and I think it was money very well spent.

    To start with, a few photos and then we'll get into the description of the circuit.

    Bluetooth 2.1 + EDR module for wireless headphones - TZT PCBA AUDIO - Test Bluetooth 2.1 + EDR module for wireless headphones - TZT PCBA AUDIO - Test Bluetooth 2.1 + EDR module for wireless headphones - TZT PCBA AUDIO - Test .

    As you can see, the PCB is very small and can really do a lot.

    Bluetooth 2.1 + EDR module for wireless headphones - TZT PCBA AUDIO - Test Bluetooth 2.1 + EDR module for wireless headphones - TZT PCBA AUDIO - Test

    For the curious, a photo of the main (and only) integrated circuit. Taken with a microscope presented by me quite recently, on our forum.

    Bluetooth 2.1 + EDR module for wireless headphones - TZT PCBA AUDIO - Test Bluetooth 2.1 + EDR module for wireless headphones - TZT PCBA AUDIO - Test Bluetooth 2.1 + EDR module for wireless headphones - TZT PCBA AUDIO - Test .

    The diodes work as they do on probably all headphones. These are:
    Pairing - the red and blue LED flashes alternately. Approximately every 0.5s
    Connection - blue LED flashes, approximately every 2s.
    Charging - red LED on.
    End of charging - red LED off.
    Switching off - the red LED lights up for approx. 2s. and we hear a message in the headphones indicating that the power has been switched off.

    Bluetooth 2.1 + EDR module for wireless headphones - TZT PCBA AUDIO - Test Bluetooth 2.1 + EDR module for wireless headphones - TZT PCBA AUDIO - Test Bluetooth 2.1 + EDR module for wireless headphones - TZT PCBA AUDIO - Test .

    As with other Bluetooth headphones I have experienced, playback is not possible while charging.

    So let's move on to the description that majfriend offers:

    Bluetooth on Base CLASS 2 power level, using Bluetooth 2.1 + EDR specification, compatible with Bluetooth 3 and below application version, transmission speed can reach 3 Mbit .

    I would like to add that the receiver/transmitter supports the A2DP standard. This means that we can listen to music from one source while connected to another. For example, you listen to music from your computer and are simultaneously connected to your phone. When a call comes in, you will hear the ringing tone in the headphones, and if you click the centre button to answer the incoming call, the music stops and you can hear the caller in the headphones. The module has a built-in microphone, so we will be able to start a conversation without any problems.

    Power amplifier output power: RMS 2x18 mw (THD = 10%) .

    I am left to believe that this is the case. Although, after the first test, I have no reason to doubt the veracity of this parameter.

    The signal-to-noise ratio is not less than 90dB .

    Here I don't know if there is an error or if the manufacturer/vendor has deliberately not given a specific value.

    Input voltage: 3.7 v rechargeable lithium battery

    That is, powering any Li-Ion, or Li-Fe, that is banging around in your drawer, while still fitting into one of the earphone shells.

    Playback time: 5 hours: 7 hours .

    Parameter given without making sense. The time depends on the power source used.

    Charging time: 2-3 hours .

    and here, as above...

    Charges input voltage: DC5V 500 mah

    I suspect that 250mA was meant.

    Horn specification: 2x16 20 mw 10mm

    I understand that you are referring to 2 x 20mW at 16Ω

    Frequency response range: 20 hz-20 khz .

    So the unwritten standard.

    Sensitivity: = 100dB + 2dB .

    I have nothing to measure.

    SNR: 80Db transmitter/receiver frequencies: 2.4 --- 2.48 ghz

    So standard.

    Distance: unobstructed, 10 metres .

    Works even when the phone is in a belt holster and wearing a solid rubber case.

    The module only has three buttons, yet it is fully functional.
    It works a little differently to my existing handsets and I'll probably confuse the reflex operation of one and the other, but I think I'll get used to it quickly.

    It's time for some instruction on how to use this contraption, because despite only three buttons, we have quite a few options for their use.

    The middle button, is responsible for:
    - switching the receiver on/off - long press;
    - Starting "pairing" - long press when the receiver is switched on;
    - answering and ending an incoming call. If you hear a ringtone in your headphones (your own ringtone, the one set on your phone will not be played) and click this button, the call is answered and the music is muted. If we click it again during the call, the call is disconnected and the music reappears in the headphones.

    2. the "Down" button
    - a short click is responsible for switching to the next song playing;
    - Hold down to decrease the volume in the headphones..

    3. the "UP" button (viewed when the microphone is down and the board is upright):
    - a short click is responsible for switching to the previously played song;
    - holding down, will increase the volume in the headphones.

    - holding down, will decrease the volume in the headphones.The above functions also work during a call.

    All that's left for me now is to stuff the two modules into two pairs of headphones, but that's a topic for another article, in another section.

    It's time to say a few words about the sound quality generated by this tiny chip.
    When I plugged this invention in today, just for a test, on a mini kynar spider and put on the headphones "paired" with my phone, I got a shock. It plays as correctly as possible and quite pleasingly. The bass is deep and the treble is not lacking. I did a test and connected the same headphones directly to the 3.5mm jack socket on my phone. And here was another surprise...
    The sound quality was worse than over Bluetooth. On top of that, it was also better than on my old Bluetooth headphones.
    I was not surprised, however, that the headphones connected directly to the Yamaha RX-V596RDS aplituner, sounded "five classes higher", but in this case I was listening to a "real" amplifier and not a "junk" in an SMD casing.

    To sum up.
    I am very pleased to have finally come across a Bluetooth module that I can successfully use to convert my and my Dad's headphones.
    It remains to select the right size batteries and deploy it all in the shells.
    I can in good conscience recommend this module to anyone who wants to convert their old headphones into Bluetooth headphones with A2DP.

    Best regards.
    CMS

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  • #2 17399213
    bubu1769
    Level 42  
    Or maybe such a stupid question.
    Does this module play STEREO sound?
  • #3 17399405
    CMS
    VIP Meritorious for electroda.pl
    What have you got with this stereo lately?
    I made a special test. I "played" a 100Hz sine in one channel, and a 100Hz triangle in the other. It is undoubtedly stereo.
  • #4 17399759
    Anonymous
    Level 1  
  • #5 17399788
    CMS
    VIP Meritorious for electroda.pl
    acctr wrote:
    Poor test.


    Why are we weak?

    acctr wrote:
    Play 100Hz sine in one channel and 99.5Hz sine in the other


    I have no such possibility.

    Prepare the appropriate file and send it, I will check it.
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  • #6 17399869
    Anonymous
    Level 1  
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  • #7 17399948
    CMS
    VIP Meritorious for electroda.pl
    But you complain sometimes. :)

    Please. A computer as a generator. 105Hz, sine in one channel, triangle in the other. I don't know how you can not hear the difference between these waveforms, I hear clearly. The signal was transmitted using a stereo BT transmitter with a built-in battery. You already know the receiver.

    Bluetooth 2.1 + EDR module for wireless headphones - TZT PCBA AUDIO - Test Bluetooth 2.1 + EDR module for wireless headphones - TZT PCBA AUDIO - Test

    Anything else I can do?
  • #8 17400100
    Bullseye
    Level 27  
    For me, an important element of the test was missing, what are the delays in the signal?
    Will he be able to watch a movie on the phone on headphones or will there be a distressed sound?
  • #9 17400154
    CMS
    VIP Meritorious for electroda.pl
    I have not yet encountered headphones that would introduce a delay (at least noticeable by a human, because there must be some). This receiver also does not show any deviations from the norm.
    The problem of delays, with all headphones and transmitters, appears when, while watching a movie or, for example, playing on a computer, we cover the receiver's antenna with our hands, or turn our head in such a way that we lose range for a moment. If at this point we lose any data packet, the effect of "diverging" the sound with the picture will appear. If this happens, simply stop broadcasting for a few seconds and then resume it. Very often you can hear a soft click / crack or something similar in the headphones, indicating that the transmission is over. When we hear this sound, we can click "play" again and the sound will be synchronized with the video again.

    While listening to music, this phenomenon does not bother us at all, if we add an image to the sound, and we have a poor range and lose it every time we turn our head, it can actually be tiring. The problem may also arise when the receiver is too close to the transmitter, because colloquially speaking, the signal may have "too small angle" to hit the receiver. Google how 2.4GHz waves spread and you will understand what I mean.
  • #10 17400170
    bubu1769
    Level 42  
    And you could provide a link to a specific offer on Ali or under what keywords exactly you were looking for this module, because for now the headphones themselves pop up or those large modules to which you still need to solder buttons and LEDs.
  • #11 17400230
    miszczo997
    Level 28  
    Was there any BT4.0 in the modules you tested?
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  • #12 17400306
    CMS
    VIP Meritorious for electroda.pl
    bubu1769 wrote:
    And you could provide a link to a specific offer on Ali or exactly what keywords you were looking for this module


    I just entered Ali's search engine ... "TZT 1 pcs Bluetooth headset" and found it for $ 4, but if you try, you will probably find under $ 3.

    miszczo997 wrote:
    Was there any BT4.0 in the modules you tested?


    I'm pretty sure it is, but I don't remember whether it's the receiver or the transmitter. However, if my memory serves me correctly, it was a module designed to be "soldered" to the proper PCB (containing uC) "for a sandwich", but I will not give my head. I'd have to search my resources.
  • #13 17400316
    Bullseye
    Level 27  
    I understand what's going on, nevertheless most of the BT speakers I had, despite being 1m from the laptop, the delay was still large enough that it was impossible to watch the movie, with a light hand of 300ms
  • #14 17400320
    CMS
    VIP Meritorious for electroda.pl
    From version 4.0, I have a transmitter:

    https://pl.aliexpress.com/item/Mini-Server-Wi...-telefonu-PC-MP3-MP4-TV/32883883829.html?spm= a2g0s.9042311.0.0.27425c0f4zSR0m
    but I will not know if it is 4.0, because how can I check it?

    And two receivers:

    https://en.aliexpress.com/item/JDY-10-Bluetoo...tible-with-CC2541-slave/32760976886.html?spm= a2g0s.9042311.0.0.27425c0f4zSR0m

    https://pl.aliexpress.com/item/CFsunbird-Blue...IY-Bluetooth-module-4-0/32841003894.html?spm= a2g0s.9042311.0.0.27425c0f4zSR0m

    But both require a UC to work. Of these "maintenance free dongli" all are 2.1 or 2.1 + EDR.

    Added after 2 [minutes]:

    Bullseye wrote:
    300ms with a light hand


    This is a tragedy.

    I think you had some software or even hardware problem.
  • #15 17402455
    E8600
    Level 41  
    As for Bluetooth 4.1 receivers with EDR audio - stereo, you could test something like that. Link

    I am glad that there are bluetooth modules, maybe one that will work and will appear in the shop.
  • #16 17402553
    CMS
    VIP Meritorious for electroda.pl
    Buy, send, I will check and describe. If you want, I will send it back to you later. Of course you cover the shipping costs ...

    Or test and review yourself, because I have a lot of work anyway ...

    If anything, write to PW.
  • #17 17402806
    E8600
    Level 41  
    CMS wrote:
    And two receivers:


    I admit that I was more interested in these 2 receivers after a cursory reading of their specifications, so I will wait for their reviews. :)
    On the other hand, in what I found, it is probably impossible to change the onerous voice greeting.
  • #18 17407115
    adamos11
    Level 9  
    I would like to ask about the noise. I have a mono Bluetooth headset, one for driving. It is silent. Do not listen to noise or squeaking. I tested a lot of stereo headphones and there this problem appeared. After pairing with the device, an unmerciful hum or squeal was heard. Same when playing softly. As you know, it is bothersome, did you also hear the hum here?
  • #19 17407252
    CMS
    VIP Meritorious for electroda.pl
    E8600 wrote:
    so I'll wait for their reviews. :)


    I don't plan.

    adamos11 wrote:
    After pairing with the device, an unmerciful hum or squeal was heard. Same when playing softly. As you know, it is bothersome, did you also hear the hum here?


    I did not say anything like that.
  • #20 17424203
    adamos11
    Level 9  
    How do you plan to stuff the system in the housing or maybe you print an additional one and want to stick it?
  • #21 17424250
    CMS
    VIP Meritorious for electroda.pl
    These are big headphones. There will be no problem with fitting the module and the battery.

Topic summary

The discussion centers around the TZT PCBA AUDIO Bluetooth 2.1 + EDR module and its capability to play stereo sound. Users conducted various tests to confirm stereo output, including playing different waveforms. Concerns about audio delay during video playback were raised, with some users reporting noticeable latency with Bluetooth devices. The conversation also touched on the availability of Bluetooth modules on platforms like AliExpress, with users sharing links to specific products and discussing their specifications. Additionally, issues related to noise and hum in stereo headphones were mentioned, along with considerations for fitting the module into headphone housings.
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