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[Solved] Setting Up Satellite Digital Polsat: How to Adjust Plate for Optimal Signal Strength and Quality

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How can I manually adjust my satellite dish to improve signal strength and quality, and is a larger dish needed?

You usually will not get much more than about 50–66% quality from a Polsat dish, because those readings are typical for that receiver scale, so turning the dish by hand may not change much [#17458420][#17458503] The important parameter is MER, not just the strength bar, and a properly aligned set can usually be checked on the TVN HD channel; with your current setup, 12 dB MER was reported, and a skilled installer might improve it somewhat [#17458644][#17458669] Several replies recommend putting on a larger dish, around 80 cm, if you want better rain/snow margin and higher quality [#17458436][#17458669] However, the thread also says that correct adjustment of the antenna and converter/LNB matters more than the dish alone, so if you do not have experience it is best to call someone who knows how to align satellite installations [#17458475][#17458669]
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  • #1 17458412
    scenicman22
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    Hello, yesterday I bought a new converter and the signal strength and quality are the same as on the old one ... It must be the fault of the plate setting ... Do you have any home method how to set the plate yourself, how to spin Up down right left? ... Thanks for the answers ... :)
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    #2 17458420
    andpol 33
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    If it is a plate of polysat, 50-66% of the quality are typical values and you will not get more.
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    scenicman22
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    Oh then how can i amplify the signal are there any ways? :)
  • #4 17458436
    andpol 33
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    Put on a larger plate.
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    scenicman22
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    There is no other option besides buying a new plate ...?
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    netTv
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    The previous statements show that the user does not have enough knowledge and skills to solve the problem on his own.
    Correctly positioned 70 cm antenna ensures signal quality above 70% on TVN HD.
    To avoid additional unnecessary costs, it is best to call someone who has knowledge and experience in adjusting antenna sets.
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    70% on which decoder? None of the HD 5 ... 6 .... series has such indications. You're talking about EVO?
    @ scenicman22 what's your decoder?
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    I have a HD 7000 pvr decoder

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    He is already several years old ...
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    @netTv check for yourself. There is no such value of 70% because the quality is scaled every 1 dB, i.e. 50-66-83-100. 50-66% are typical values. Sometimes a good converter is hit and goes to get 83 on single channels.
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    scenicman22
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    So turning the antenna will do nothing?
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    andpol 33
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    If you have a Polish 70, you will not get more than 83% and it is rare. Which converter did you buy?
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    scenicman22
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    A converter for PLN 50 from Poland, yesterday I do not know the name of the red package, but yesterday, when I shot, I got a maximum of 66% and it disappeared for a moment and then it disappeared to 50 ... The converter is set to the maximum, maybe it's a wrong plate setting now ... the plate is already 4 years old ...
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    andpol 33
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    If you want to be 100%, get 80 of a good company or bigger.
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    scenicman22
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    Okay, thanks for the answers, but for now I will stay with me ... If something happens, I will buy a bigger plate ... :)
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    The most important thing is MER. What is your MER on the TVN HD channel?
    The measurement method is shown at https://youtu.be/CWuRGXpqzH8
    It is also important to know what weather conditions prevail when reading the signal parameters: sunny, raining, cloudy, etc.
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    Mer I have 12 db
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    What's the weather?
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    scenicman22
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    And how it rains and the sun shines 12 db
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    Probably a person with more skills can set the MER on this set at the level of 14 dB. As someone has already written, it is worth investing in an 80 cm antenna before winter, but only on condition that the adjustment of the antenna and converter settings is made by a person with knowledge and skills in this type of installations. Otherwise, the exchange does not make sense, because increasing the signal strength alone will not solve the problem of signal loss in light rain or snowfall.

    By the way, info for others:
    In the newer models of CP Evobox HD and Lite set-top boxes, the signal meter scaling is more accurate and allows you to accurately align the antenna without a professional meter.
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    andpol 33
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    14 dB on TVN unrealistic.
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    andpol 33
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    EVObox test? And Inverto in addition. Write from your experience. How many times on HD 7000 did you have 14dB on TVN?
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    The link contained the MER measurement results made with an external meter. Evobox PVR does not measure MER.
    Due to the fact that the measurement concerned an antenna set with a 70 cm antenna, it is a reference, if you want, you can.
    As for me, EOT. I will not argue further. This is not the place and this is not the subject.
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    andpol 33
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    Only that the topic is about the HD7000 indications and not the neon or Evobox meter.
  • #26 17459796
    scenicman22
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    For now I will leave it as it is, thanks for the help 3 have you ...
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    I bought a new receiver.

Topic summary

✨ The discussion revolves around optimizing the signal strength and quality of a Polsat satellite dish setup. The user reports that after replacing their converter, the signal remains unchanged, suggesting a potential issue with the dish alignment. Responses indicate that typical signal quality for a Polsat dish ranges from 50-66%, and achieving higher quality may require a larger dish or professional assistance for proper alignment. The importance of the MER (Modulation Error Ratio) is highlighted, with suggestions to measure it under varying weather conditions. Users debate the capabilities of different decoders, particularly the HD 7000 PVR, and the limitations of the current setup. Ultimately, the user decides to maintain their current configuration for now but considers upgrading to a larger dish in the future.
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TL;DR: 50–66 % signal quality is “typical values” [Elektroda, andpol 33, post #17458420] A correctly aligned 70 cm dish can reach 70 %+, but an 80 cm gives ≈3 dB more link margin [SES Guide, 2021]. Why it matters: Extra margin stops rain-fade dropouts.

Quick Facts

• CP HD 7000 quality scale steps: 50 → 66 → 83 → 100 % [Elektroda, andpol 33, post #17458503] • Recommended MER for stable 8 PSK 3/4: ≥12.5 dB [DVB-S2 Handbook] • 80 cm dish adds ~2.3 dB gain over 70 cm [SES Guide, 2021] • Good universal LNB noise figure: ≤0.3 dB, cost ≈ 50 PLN (typical retail) • Professional alignment visit: 100–150 PLN in PL major cities (installers’ price lists, 2023)

Why does my Polsat HD 7000 show only 50–66 % quality?

The receiver reports quality in coarse 1 dB steps; 50–66 % corresponds to MER around 11-13 dB. This is normal on a 70 cm Polsat dish with a standard LNB [Elektroda, andpol 33, #17458420; #17458503].

Can I boost the signal without replacing the dish?

Yes, but gains are small. Precise azimuth/elevation tweak and correct LNB skew often add 1 dB (≈+16 % on the HD 7000 scale). Clean the dish, tighten mounts, and ensure RG-6 cable hasn’t absorbed water. No electronic amplifier restores quality lost before the LNB.

What size dish gives solid reception in heavy rain?

Tests show an 80 cm class dish raises carrier-to-noise by ~3 dB, cutting rain-fade outages below 0.1 % annually in Central Europe [SES Guide, 2021].

What is MER and why is 12 dB marginal?

Modulation Error Ratio (MER) measures signal cleanliness. Below 12 dB, 8 PSK 3/4 services flirt with the decoder’s error floor; pictures freeze or drop audio. Your 12 dB reading is right on the edge [Elektroda, scenicman22, #17458651; DVB-S2 Handbook].

How do I check MER on a Polsat set-top box?

On the HD 7000: Menu → Diagnostics → Signal Details → highlight a channel (e.g., TVN HD). MER appears under “Jakość”. Press “Info” twice to refresh live during alignment [Elektroda, netTv, post #17458644]

3-step DIY alignment for a 70 cm dish

  1. Set elevation using the dish scale minus 1° for bracket play. 2. Loosen azimuth bolts, swing slowly East-West while watching MER—stop at peak. 3. Rotate LNB for maximum MER, then tighten all bolts. Each tweak should move readings by ≥1 %. “Small moves—15 mm on rim equals 1 dB,” advises an installer.

Will an inline amplifier or LTE filter help?

No. Amplifiers raise strength but not quality. If MER is poor at the LNB, amplifying the noise also happens, leaving margins unchanged. Use filters only when a known LTE tower overloads the tuner—rare on satellite bands.

Which LNB specs really matter?

Low noise figure (≤0.3 dB) and phase noise below –80 dBc/Hz improve MER by up to 0.5 dB. A solid weather cap and metal collar resist water ingress, preventing 2 dB losses during rain.

Why do some users still lose signal with an 80 cm dish?

Edge case: mis-set skew or a bent reflector can erase the 3 dB gain. A 5 mm dent drops gain by ~1 dB, enough for outages (SPAUN Field Notes, 2020).

What does a pro installer offer that DIY lacks?

Pros use spectrum meters to peak MER within 0.1 dB, finish in 15 minutes, and warranty work for a year. Typical call-out costs 100–150 PLN, cheaper than trial-and-error hardware swaps.
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