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Sannce Webcam Night Vision: IR Camera Image Behind Glass - Solutions for Reflection Issues

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  • #1 17776690
    kepa416
    Level 10  
    Hello, I bought a cheap Sannce webcam for yard surveillance. The camera is in the house behind the glass. On the day of burning completely. Unfortunately, at night there is a problem and the whole world is reflected from the glass and a white wall is visible.

    Is it possible to stick something in the form of a filter or matt film on the glass?
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  • #2 17776738
    Zutket
    Level 36  
    kepa416 wrote:
    Is it possible to stick something in the form of a filter or matt film on the glass?
    This is. Turn off the illuminator in the camera and install an additional one turned on after dusk outside.
  • #3 17777032
    makosuu
    Network and Internet specialist
    Zutket wrote:
    This is. Turn off the illuminator in the camera and install an additional one turned on after dusk outside.


    After all, it makes no sense because if it turns off the IR, the IR Cut filter will close and what is the additional radiator for?
  • #4 17777212
    gkwiatkowski
    CCTV and Stationary Alarms specialist
    makosuu wrote:
    Zutket wrote:
    This is. Turn off the illuminator in the camera and install an additional one turned on after dusk outside.


    After all, it makes no sense because if it turns off the IR, the IR Cut filter will close and what is the additional radiator for?


    The IR illuminator is usually turned on by a phototransistor placed between the LEDs.
    The IR filter is moved away when the camera's automation determines that not enough light reaches the photosensitive matrix.
    These systems work independently, even sometimes in the camera menu you can turn off the illuminator.
    Of course, I do not rule out that there may be cameras that have this combined into one control.
  • #5 17777214
    kepa416
    Level 10  
    Here you can turn off no problem. The problem is that I can't throw the power outside the building.
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  • #6 17777235
    gkwiatkowski
    CCTV and Stationary Alarms specialist
    An additional illuminator mounted next to another window or on the same pane, but as far away from the camera as possible.
  • #7 17777308
    kepa416
    Level 10  
    And could something like a semi-matte film glued to the glass work? Something like those on phone screens?
  • #8 17777333
    suworow
    VIP Meritorious for electroda.pl
    What does your friend think it means?
  • #9 17777341
    kepa416
    Level 10  
    The fact that the image will not be reflected as in a mirror. Because the problem is that even though the lights inside are off, I can see the reflection of the internal blinds of the furniture, etc
  • #10 17777344
    makosuu
    Network and Internet specialist
    kepa416 wrote:
    Here you can turn off no problem. The problem is that I can't throw the power outside the building.


    And sometimes when turning off the IR does not also close the IR Cut filter? Because it is most likely so (I have an Overmax Camspot 3.3 webcam and there the IR Cut filter opens when IR is turned on with the light sensor and turns off when it is turned off, and turning off the night mode causes the IR to be always off and the IR Cut filter always closed).
  • #11 17777551
    gradek83
    Level 42  
    If the camera is not adapted to work outdoors, you can buy one and then you will easily solve your problem.
  • #12 17778594
    kepa416
    Level 10  
    The problem is that I can't throw the power outside. The camera must be inside
  • #13 18140371
    zoneezonee
    Level 8  
    I'm joining this thread so as not to clutter the forum. I have an ordinary Chinese home camera, it works well at home and during the day - I don't need anything better:

    Link to the camera: https://www.banggood.com/1080P-Wireless-Wifi-...e-p-1435737.html?rmmds=myorder&cur_warehouse= CN

    The camera is supposed to monitor what is happening in the room and that's it. Recently I had to check something outside the window (the camera turned from the window sill to the outside - between the window pane) and here the problem begins! IR diodes are reflected in the glass and the camera does not register anything outside!

    As I have already mentioned, I HAVE NO AIM AND I DO NOT NEED professional monitoring for PLN 300-1000-3000 - this one is enough for me.

    I just need some advice if it's possible to somehow use this camera from behind the glass at night to record the image outside - at least until I figure out what I need :P

    Is it possible to somehow reduce the IR reflection in the glass? Link to the camera above. The IR diodes are separated from the lens, but the glass acts as a mirror, directing the IR light to the lens (double glass, so the sleeve from the lens to the glass falls off because it will reflect anyway and I'm not going to drill through the glass, you understand why :)

    I don't want to remove the cameras either. I was thinking of something that can be glued to the glass and reduce the IR reflection at night, ensuring the transmission of IR light and at the same time get a lossless image at night.
  • #14 18140386
    dawidedziu
    Industrial cameras specialist
    You won't do anything about it - you won't be the first and last one to ask about it unfortunately. After all, it is an indoor camera, so it is not suitable for monitoring the area outside the house. You would have to have a camera in which you can turn off the illuminator - unless yours can do it. Try to make a ring around the lens and cover it - the diodes will shine, but only in this ring.
    Helpful post? Buy me a coffee.
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  • #15 18140404
    zoneezonee
    Level 8  
    dawidedziu wrote:
    You won't do anything about it - you won't be the first and last one to ask about it unfortunately. After all, it is an indoor camera, so it is not suitable for monitoring the area outside the house. You would have to have a camera in which you can turn off the illuminator - unless yours can do it. Try to make a ring around the lens and cover it - the diodes will shine, but only in this ring.


    I can turn off NIGHTVISION (IR LEDs) in the settings - then I have to manually fire it at night (or not at all - in the settings I have the mode: Auto, On, Off) - but to be done. When monitoring outside through the glass at night it would make sense but all I see is a black spot :)

    How to make IR lighting behind the glass? even on batteries :) just waterproof?
  • #16 18140496
    suworow
    VIP Meritorious for electroda.pl
    zoneezonee wrote:
    and I'm not going to drill through the windows, you understand why :)

    Why not. It might even be interesting :)

    zoneezonee wrote:
    I can turn off NIGHTVISION (IR LEDs) in the settings - then I have to manually fire it at night (or not at all - in the settings I have the mode: Auto, On, Off) - but to be done. When monitoring outside through the glass at night it would make sense but all I see is a black spot :)


    makosuu wrote:
    And sometimes when turning off the IR does not also close the IR Cut filter? Because it is most likely so (I have an Overmax Camspot 3.3 webcam and there the IR Cut filter opens when IR is turned on with the light sensor and turns off when it is turned off, and turning off the night mode causes the IR to be always off and the IR Cut filter always closed).
  • #17 18140807
    zoneezonee
    Level 8  
    makosuu wrote:
    And sometimes when you turn off the IR, doesn't the IR Cut filter also close?


    I don't know how to check it?
  • #18 18143566
    makosuu
    Network and Internet specialist
    When the IR illuminator in the camera is turned on or off, a click is heard, this is the opening/closing of the filter.
  • #19 18144068
    zoneezonee
    Level 8  
    makosuu wrote:
    When the IR illuminator in the camera is turned on or off, a click is heard, this is the opening/closing of the filter.


    So what ? How should I understand that ? It's the same for me - when I change the night mode, I hear a pop.

    So if I buy a "separate" IR illuminator, install it and fire it behind the glass outside and turn off the built-in IR illuminator in the camera, it WILL NOT DO ANYTHING? Will it work?
  • #20 18145316
    makosuu
    Network and Internet specialist
    It won't work because the IR filter will not pass IR. Probably the easiest way will be to buy some LED or halogen panel for lighting, but here it depends on how much you need to illuminate.
  • #21 18146556
    zoneezonee
    Level 8  
    makosuu wrote:
    It won't work because the IR filter will not pass IR. Probably the easiest way will be to buy some LED or halogen panel for lighting, but here it depends on how much you need to illuminate.


    It's probably better to disconnect the IR diodes in the camera and mount the external IR switched on manually at night. Okay, now I know what to do. Although I will think about an external camera, but it would be useful to have WI-FI and a solar panel because I don't want to drill into the wall and such are quite expensive.
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  • #22 18146625
    makosuu
    Network and Internet specialist
    zoneezonee wrote:
    Although I will think about an external camera, but it would be useful to have WI-FI and a solar panel because I don't want to drill into the wall and such are quite expensive.

    You can put a flat twisted pair or even a regular one through the window, why WiFi. An external camera is the best solution.
  • #23 21186011
    Anonymous
    Level 1  
  • #24 21186095
    gradek83
    Level 42  
    That is to say, you have deceived the neighbours. What the eyes don't see ...
    If you are in the community it may be worth raising the issue of monitoring the parking spaces at the meeting maybe the request for cameras will be granted.
  • #25 21186108
    bhtom
    Level 38  
    Welcome,

    gradek83 wrote:
    That is, you cheated the neighbours


    You cheated... ;)

    Greetings.

Topic summary

The discussion revolves around issues faced when using a Sannce webcam for yard surveillance from behind glass, particularly the reflection of internal objects and the inability to capture clear images at night due to infrared (IR) light reflections. Users suggest various solutions, including turning off the camera's built-in IR illuminator and using an external IR light source positioned outside the glass. Some participants discuss the possibility of applying a semi-matte film to the glass to reduce reflections. Others mention the limitations of indoor cameras for outdoor monitoring and propose using external cameras or modifying existing setups to bypass the IR filter. The conversation highlights the challenges of using indoor cameras for outdoor surveillance and explores potential workarounds.
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