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Touch Light Switch Connection: Resolving Flashing LEDs in Bathroom Halogen & LED Lamps

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  • #1 17916193
    papa_smerf
    Level 10  
    Touch Light Switch Connection: Resolving Flashing LEDs in Bathroom Halogen & LED Lamps
    Touch Light Switch Connection: Resolving Flashing LEDs in Bathroom Halogen & LED Lamps
    Touch Light Switch Connection: Resolving Flashing LEDs in Bathroom Halogen & LED Lamps
    Touch Light Switch Connection: Resolving Flashing LEDs in Bathroom Halogen & LED Lamps
    Hello. I bought touch switches for lighting as in the pictures and I have a problem with connecting such a switch in the bathroom. On the wall in the bathroom, I have a lamp with halogens on one wall and it looks like it is connected correctly - from the wall, the black cable is connected in a cube to the black one from the lamp, blue to blue, and yellow-green also to the yellow-green, which is attached to the housing lamps.
    I have a problem with the second led lamp. This lamp is only temporary, but I would like to solve the flickering problem for now. I doubt if it is properly connected. Well, this lamp has only a blue and black wire and they are connected in a cube with wires of the same colors that are in the wall. However, the yellow-green wire is not connected at all. And now to the seat. The switch, which I showed above, is connected as shown in the diagram, i.e. I connect the phase (black wire) to the L socket, then the neutral (blue wire) to L1 and the protective wire (yellow-green) to L3. As a result, when I turn on only the halogen lamp, it lights up properly, while when I turn on only the LED lamp, it flickers. When I turn on both for now, the halogens glow properly, and the LEDs gently pulsate.
    I used the LED adapter that is included in the set. I connected it with L + L1 in the switch, but it didn't help, and in addition, when the light is off, I have a skylight in the bathroom - the LED lamp is smoldering. I also connected this adapter directly in the cube by the lamp, but it does not change anything. What may be the problem? I am asking for help because I am green in these matters and it is a pity to call an electrician is such a trifle :)
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  • #2 17916599
    Wilktor
    Level 27  
    In my opinion, you need to add a capacitor to this LED lamp that will level the ripple from the network
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  • #3 17916856
    papa_smerf
    Level 10  
    Wiktor626 wrote:
    In my opinion, you need to add a capacitor to this LED lamp that will level the ripple from the network

    Isn't that what I wrote above? The set includes a cube (called an "LED adapter" by the seller) with two wires, which you plug in - one wire to the L wire and the other to the N wire. But as I wrote, it doesn't help with flashing ...
    So I am to understand that the lamp in the way I described is connected correctly? The yellow-green wire that comes out of the wall is supposed to hang just like that and not be connected anywhere? :)
  • #5 17917042
    papa_smerf
    Level 10  
    I think it's a different case, because I have a lamp adapted to 230V, as you can see in the picture below.
    With an ordinary light switch, the lamp did not blink, only now it blinks as I installed this touch switch with backlight.

    Touch Light Switch Connection: Resolving Flashing LEDs in Bathroom Halogen & LED Lamps
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  • #6 17917051
    Wilktor
    Level 27  
    I heard somewhere that the backlight of the switch can cause flashing
  • #7 17917060
    Robert B
    Level 43  
    papa_smerf wrote:
    With an ordinary light switch, the lamp did not blink, only now it blinks as I installed this touch switch with backlight

    And so it will be, because the load for the electronic switch is too small and starts to "pulse".
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  • #8 17917728
    mumines
    Level 13  
    Hello.
    Fellow Robert B wrote. I heard somewhere that the backlight of the switch can cause flashing.
    You heard very well. All compact and LED energy-saving light bulbs behave like this, the more illuminated switches in the circuit, the more often they blink.
    The load for this switch is appropriate, and since it needs power, there is a current flow through the load, which is sufficient to ignite the system. The current flow is minimal in the order of 1 mA, but it is enough to charge the capacitor in the circuit supplying the bulb enough to activate the circuit.
    The capacitor referred to in the manual is used to bypass the power supply system of the bulb, but it does not interfere with the operation of the switch.
  • #9 17918048
    Rafikusa
    Level 18  
    Quote:
    The switch, which I showed above, is connected as shown in the diagram, i.e. I connect the phase (black wire) to the L socket, then the neutral (blue wire) to L1 and the protective wire (yellow-green) to L3.

    Well, you connected it wrong, because neither neutral nor protective is connected to this switch.
    That middle picture in the bottom picture is a little misleading. The description above the drawing agrees.
    You should connect the phase from the mains to L, and L1, L2 and L3 are outputs for three lamps / bulbs. So the phase for the first bulb comes from L1, and you connect N bulbs to N from the network. And the same with the second and third bulb.
    This LED adapter must be connected exactly as shown in the middle photo, i.e. directly on the bulb/lamp holder.
  • #10 17918168
    mawerix123
    Level 39  
    Wiktor626 wrote:
    I heard somewhere that the backlight of the switch can cause flashing


    Baaa, I installed a Schneider switch with LED backlight. In the frame on the ceiling, the LED 11W lit up once ... maybe some defective LED customer brought the second "bulb" once and after the floodlight ... somehow this connector with the backlight caused damage to the LED "bulbs". The LEDs went to the complaint and the connector to be returned.
  • #11 17918662
    kokapetyl
    Level 43  
    Rafikusa wrote:
    Quote:
    The switch, which I showed above, is connected as shown in the diagram, i.e. I connect the phase (black wire) to the L socket, then the neutral (blue wire) to L1 and the protective wire (yellow-green) to L3.

    Well, you connected it wrong
    Good point my friend.
    Question to the author of the topic. What wires are in this connector (connection between these and these lamps)
  • #12 19785397
    SUCHY_666
    Level 12  
    I put such switches in the whole house, and in two places I have a situation where the light goes crazy - it could be described as the operation of a turn signal in a car. Capacitors are installed correctly. Do you have any idea what causes this behavior?

Topic summary

The discussion revolves around issues with connecting touch light switches in a bathroom setting, specifically addressing the flickering of LED lamps when used with halogen fixtures. Users suggest that adding a capacitor to the LED lamp may help stabilize the flickering caused by the touch switch's backlight. It is noted that the load for the electronic switch may be insufficient, leading to pulsing behavior. Proper wiring connections are emphasized, with advice on ensuring that neutral and protective wires are correctly connected. Some users report similar issues with other brands of switches, indicating a common problem with LED lighting and touch switches.
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