Exactly ... why multiply beings. How does ZE want to introduce dynamic tariffs with such equipment? Already now, the tariff G12 and G13 is the manual setting of hours in home machines and it should be on a signal from the meter.
Back ... it used to be like this, that the night tariff G12 from the meter - a control clock to a mechanical meter - at the same time switched on the customer's contactor and we are fighting with the effects of this hasty decision from 20 years ago, because dear customer, when he needs to replace the meter for legalization it will say that it has always been like that, so he has to stay that way - he did not change the contract.
That is why ZE has already Cured himself from the cooperation of his own devices with foreign devices.
Let them get infected again. Preferably in Ireland or on a neighboring larger island. There, the counter controls the coil of the contactor which supplies voltage, for example to the terminals of storage furnaces. The voltage supplying the contactor's coil is of course measured. So technically it's not complicated and only goodwill is needed.
Exactly ... why multiply beings. How does ZE want to introduce dynamic tariffs with such equipment? Already now, the tariff G12 and G13 is the manual setting of hours in home machines and it should be on a signal from the meter.
Back ... it used to be like this, that the night tariff G12 from the meter - a control clock to a mechanical meter - at the same time switched on the customer's contactor and we are fighting with the effects of this hasty decision from 20 years ago, because dear customer, when he needs to replace the meter for legalization it will say that it has always been this way, so he has to stay that way - he did not change the contract.
That is why ZE has already Cured himself from the cooperation of his own devices with foreign devices.
Wait a minute ... who is the customer and who pays for the electricity? It is probably ZE that should do something to make customers use tariffs other than G11. This supposedly allows you to manage your energy better. It's how to manage it ... the electricity meter accelerates by about 20 seconds every month ... I do not know about my neighbor ... maybe it accelerates and the average is OK
Unfortunately, you can not read anything from otus, I checked today, only dlms and factory soft.
Thanks for the information. It is a pity that everything is so top secret in Tauron. On the OneMeter website they write that in Niemcownia they have the SML protocol and the meter sends the reading data by itself, not even asked every now and then. In my opinion, this is how it should be resolved here as well. Well, we apparently still need to see some simple solutions: - /
Is OneMeter unable to get along with TAURON / PGE / ENEA / etc in order to implement passwords in their protocol - I guess that the password must be entered when trying to communicate (or send a sequence of LED flashes) so that the MCU in the meter allows the execution of commands sent from OneMeter - after all, "blacksmith" as a user does not need to know these passwords, and what for. Although in Poland it may be impossible or very complicated and expensive.
Can OneMeter not agree with TAURON / PGE / ENEA / etc in order to implement passwords in their protocol [/ quote:426320e6cb] it's more like TAURON / PGE / ENEA / ENERGA they don't want to talk about it, why should people know too much, it's their politics, their ass
Hello, Request for info whether the otus3 meter has the optocoupler blocked by PGE? If it is blocked by the supplier, is it possible to submit an application to PGE to unblock it?
@lukasz05 I was hoping for some specific help. I struggled a bit with the issue and the optical port is not blocked. The IEC protocol is definitely turned off (I wrote an e-mail to PGE asking for it to be turned on). However, after DIMS the meter responds. If anyone knows about the subject, please contact me. @pstastny previously I had Norax3 with it communication worked over IEC
ENEA responded to my application at CC ENEA as follows:
Sir, due to the fact that the case directly concerns the Distribution System Operator (owner of the metering and billing systems), please direct your inquiry to Enea Operator at the e-mail address kontakt(malpa)operator.enea.pl or by phone at 618 504 000. Sincerely
Sorry for the English message, but I do not speak Polish.
Have you managed to sort out the issue with ENEA to have access to the optical port of the Iskra AM550?
@felixd, and what about you? Has ENEA given you access?
Chapter 12 Information provided to the final recipient about the remote reading meter and the processing of this recipient's personal data
§ 19. The electricity system operator or the owner of devices, installations or networks, if the system user is connected to devices, installations or networks for which no electricity system operator has been designated, shall make available to the final customer where the remote reading meter is to be or has been installed, information on : 1) the method of communication of the remote reading meter with end-user devices; 2) the functionality of the remote-readable meter and the interoperability that characterizes that meter; 3) the services that can be used with the remote reading meter; 4) the benefits that can be achieved by having a remote reading meter; 5) processing of personal data of this recipient in the scope specified in art. 13 of Regulation (EU) 2016/679 of the European Parliament and of the Council of 27 April 2016 on the protection of individuals with regard to the processing of personal data and on the free movement of such data, and repealing Directive 95/46/EC (General Data Protection Regulation ).
You write interesting things. I struggled a bit with the issue and the optical port is not blocked. The IEC protocol is definitely turned off (I wrote an e-mail to PGE asking for it to be turned on). However, after DIMS the meter responds. If anyone knows about the subject, please contact me.
@groszeksali You write interesting things. Has PGE responded to unlocking the IEC protocol in the meter? Have you been able to read data from Otus3 with DIMS (you mean DLMS?)? I am very interested in the subject, because I have photovoltaics and Otus3 from Tauron, I would like to control the power consumption at home so as to give as little as possible to the grid. But you need input for that.
Unfortunately, nothing has been done about it. No response from pge. Surprisingly, recently a sticker with a pin and an IP address appeared on my meter. Is there anything I can do about it, so far I haven't found a clue.
The operator of the electricity distribution system or the owner of equipment, installations or networks, if the system user is connected to equipment, installations or networks for which no electricity system operator has been designated:
2) will enable communication of the remote reading meter with the devices of the final recipient, referred to in sec. 6, within 2 months from the date of the recipient's request, provided that they meet the requirements set out in the provisions issued on the basis of Art. 11x sec. 4;
Of course, if PGE is willing to do it.
The latest OTUS 3's at ENEA's distribution have a P1 port and Wireless M-Bus for this purpose. The optical port generally uses DLMS/COSEM, and needs encryption and authentication, what most likely no operator will give out to the customers. Due to the current regulations referenced in the Energy Law, the meter must have encryption enabled, for privacy reasons (GDPR).
Tauron enables the users to turn on Wireless M-Bus through the web application and provides the encryption key to the users. They are ahead of all the other DSOs in this game.
The possibilities are built into most of the Smart Meters (Iskra AM550 (P1 port), Apator Otus3 (P1 and Wireless M-Bus)) to be able to read it locally, but the willingness is missing.
That the meters currently at the disposal of ENEA Operator Sp. z o. o. were manufactured and purchased before the legislator published detailed functional guidelines for VOCs, contained in the regulation of the Minister of Climate and Environment of March 22, 2022. on the measurement system, these meters, in accordance with the provisions of the Regulation, may not currently implement all the functionalities indicated in the regulation. In view of the above, the requirements presented by you regarding communication for the end user are not reflected in the situation in question. In accordance with the provisions of the Regulation of the Minister of Climate and Environment of March 22, 2022. (Journal of Laws, item 788) meters installed in the period from July 4, 2019 to the date of entry into force of the Regulation and installed after the date of entry into force of the Regulation, but purchased as a result of initiating a tender procedure before the date of entry into force of the regulations, will be adjusted until July 4, 2031
Jeśli jest zablokowany przez dostawcę to czy można złożyć jakiś wniosek do PGE o odblokowanie?
@groszeksali, you can apply for the WMBUS to be activated at PGE on the OTUS 3, or if your meter has a WMBUS module. Please see my other post in this topic:
Of course, no ENEA, due to their attitude and lack of interest:
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and due to a lack of technical and organisational possibilities, at the moment we do not make additional meter functions available to consumers, the rule also applies to communication of the remote meter with the consumer's devices.
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according to the explanations provided to us by the Distribution Network Operator (DSO), we would like to inform you that the meters currently installed by the DSO are not subject to the provisions of the Regulation of the Minister of Climate and Environment of 22 March 2022 on the metering system § 21.
At the same time, we would like to clarify that the provisions of the aforementioned Regulation apply to metering and billing systems installed or upgraded after the date of entry into force of the Regulation. Metering and billing systems installed or modernised between 4 July 2019 and the date of entry into force of the Regulation and those installed after the date of entry into force of the Regulation, which were purchased or covered by a tender procedure initiated before that date shall be brought into conformity with the requirements of the Regulation by 4 July 2031.
The discussion revolves around user experiences with the OneMeter energy consumption meter, particularly its functionality with optical ports and photovoltaic (PV) systems. Users report mixed experiences, with some successfully connecting the device to their meters, while others face challenges due to blocked optical ports or compatibility issues with specific meter models. The OneMeter device is designed to read energy consumption data at 15-minute intervals and is compatible with bidirectional meters for tracking energy fed into the grid. However, many users express frustration with energy suppliers like PGE and Tauron, who reportedly restrict access to the optical ports, complicating the integration of OneMeter. Alternatives such as the "My Meter" application and PVmonitor are also mentioned as viable options for monitoring energy usage. Overall, the effectiveness of OneMeter appears to be heavily influenced by the specific energy provider and the type of meter installed. Summary generated by the language model.
