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Discussion on energy meters with Ethernet network modules for passive reading

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  • #1 20721686
    markooff
    E-Commerce-Betreuer

    Hello,

    I would like to ask the esteemed forum members - has anyone perhaps seen energy (electricity, gas and water) meters in use, but with network modules (Ethernet), through which it would be possible to passively read the states of the meters (current consumption)?
    Technically, such a solution could be done even with the use of the SNMP protocol (it would be in the case of v1 and v2 quite a passive solution - and this is the point) or even TR-69 or any other, but defined and documented by the manufacturer. The next step (if such devices exist on the market) would be to approach the energy suppliers - whether and under what conditions they could install such meters.... :)
    But for now I am concerned with the question of issue #1 itself - i.e. whether similar meter designs are on the market at all?

    Greetings
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  • #2 20721719
    czareqpl
    Level 33  
    Why ethernet when they communicate by radio.
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  • #3 20721904
    markooff
    E-Commerce-Betreuer
    Eh... :) I've been waiting for such questions :P

    I asked exactly about Ethernet (Ethernet interface - RJ-45 cable socket) quite consciously, because I need it, not some solutions from the stable of 802.1x...
    :)

    And here I add right away - something like https://www.fif.com.pl/pl/liczniki-zuzycia-en...cznej/339-licznik-zuzycia-energii-le-03m.html - only that with the RJ-45 socket and not the serial port ....
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  • #4 20723439
    markooff
    E-Commerce-Betreuer
    And then maybe I'll ask myself - and I'll hit on colleague @IC_Current specifically - have you heard of such energy meters at all?
    (with an RJ-45 socket instead of a serial port - for reading parameters, e.g. current consumption etc.)?
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    #5 20723851
    IC_Current
    Network and Internet specialist
    For RS485, Modbus and others, Ethernet gateways are available if required.
    Energy meters (as well as water, gas, heat and others) from the supplier, on the other hand, now have the Meter-Bus (M-Bus) communication standard specifically designed for metering readings implemented. Tauron is reportedly test-mounting such meters in Silesia with a Wireless M-Bus interface for use in controlling e.g. home automation depending on the consumption status (prices, etc.) of electricity.
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  • #6 20723890
    markooff
    E-Commerce-Betreuer
    OK, so it would follow - that I should be looking for such gateways - for specific types of counters / or even general ones to support the RS-485 serial port (as I have found such counters so far) . This sounds pretty good - as for me :)

    And in the matter of these meters with remote reading - I can add that in Krk - the municipal waterworks have already installed (in some places) something similar (I think this is it) because now the water readings take place without the collector entering the premises where the meter is. It is enough that he walks 'with the equipment' near the property in question ....
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    #7 20724041
    IC_Current
    Network and Internet specialist
    Remote reading is one thing. The meter communicates with the supplier according to some established protocol, e.g. via the mobile network. Many customers already have such meters. Making the M-Bus available to the customer is another matter.
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Topic summary

The discussion centers on the availability of energy meters (electricity, gas, and water) equipped with Ethernet network modules for passive reading of consumption data. The original poster seeks devices that utilize Ethernet (RJ-45) connections rather than traditional serial ports or wireless communication methods. Responses indicate that while Ethernet meters may not be common, gateways for RS485 and Modbus protocols exist, allowing integration with existing meters. Additionally, some energy suppliers are testing meters with M-Bus communication standards, which facilitate remote readings without physical access to the meter. The conversation highlights the need for specific gateways and mentions ongoing implementations of remote reading technologies by municipal waterworks.
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