Best Motherboard for Ryzen 5 3600/3600X: X470 vs B450 (MSI, ASUS, Gigabyte) - Overclocking Options?

wysio wrote:

I was thinking about the MSI B450 GAMING PRO CARBON AC again.

WiFi is the only factor for which you can pay a little more for this disc, but certainly not PLN 600.

The Tomahawk is the best B450.
It can handle the OC 2700X with ease, so the 3600X won't be a problem at all.

wysio wrote:

What is flashback? Apparently, it can only be done with the power supply connected ...

Is connecting the power adapter a problem?
You insert a flash drive with an appropriately named BIOS file and hold down the flash button on the motherboard.
https://youtu.be/vfG5um2plxo
One of the simpler steps.

@wysio yes, MSI has plans to do so, although it doesn't make sense. They sucked saving on memory and will either fix the bios or the linden.

58 degrees on MOSFET at 190W, it looks a bit strange to me too.

The results and methodology are very questionable.

Tomequ123 wrote:

The results and methodology are very questionable.

I think so too.

Although I'm more sorry for AMD. When introducing Ryzen, they promised that many generations of processors would run on AM4 and would be backwards compatible with motherboards, in my opinion they did a great job, as can be seen above, and motherboard manufacturers screwed up their entire compatibility plan by first saving peanuts on motherboards so that now you have to combine forcing the processors to fit, and then releasing more and more impaired BIOSes that work as they want, which additionally loses AMD in the eyes of consumers, although the processors did great. By the way, graphics cards are also good for them, because in terms of efficiency they are on a similar level to nVidia, but they win in terms of price. Well, image sharpening, so simple, so that does not affect the performance and how much it gives. A few more years and Intel will be chasing AMD.

I agree.

Kraniec_Internetów wrote:

A few more years and Intel will be chasing AMD.

You can see it slowly, especially in the High End, where Threadrippers were swept away by the much more expensive Intel X series.
And the introduction of the Ryzen 3xxx mixes a lot in the mainstream segment.

Yes, Threadrippers do the job. Now, in the 3rd generation of Threadrippers, they probably did not do it because the previous generations are still powerful, and if someone "at home" needed such a processor for rendering, they have a Ryzen 9 3XXX.
In tests, I saw that a lot of people were impressed with how the cores are allocated in these processors. The guy was turning on the Witcher 3 at maximum, it was 120fps. Then he turned on streaming, recording, and the fps practically did not drop. Intel can't do that Similarly, on the i9, as he turned on movie rendering in the Premiere, it was impossible to work comfortably on the computer, and on the R9 without any problems, although the rendering will take a while longer. And after all, PLN 2300 for such a Ryzen 9 3900X is not a huge amount.
To paraphrase Intel fans: "AMD's biggest problem is that they sell all the processors they make." Although the availability of processors was quite large, at least so large that AMD produced as much as anticipated, the high-end processors from the stores took off in a few days.

Kraniec_Internetów wrote:

Now, in the 3rd generation of Threadrippers, they probably did not do it because the previous generations are still powerful, and if someone "at home" needed such a processor for rendering, they have a Ryzen 9 3XXX.

Well, I was wrong. Generation 3 threadrippers should be in October, the top unit will probably have 64 cores and 128 threads at least.
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