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[Solved] Hormann ProMatic Gate Opener - Adapting 220V to 24V for Wall Bell Button: Current Ampere Advice

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  • #1 18051686
    lpawliko
    Level 6  
    I wanted to open and close the gate with the Hormann ProMatic motor via the bell button on the garage wall. I know where I should connect 24V + and - in the engine. What I want to do is from the electrical switchboard (because I have cables routed in the walls) to pass the 220V current through the pass fuse into the "converter" from 220V to 24V. From it - directly to the gate, and + through the bell switch and also to the gate.
    Question: does anyone know what power, how many amperes this 24V current should have for the gate mechanism?

    Thank you in advance for your help.
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  • #3 18051752
    lpawliko
    Level 6  
    Ok, that's different because I really don't know.

    I want to use the bell button on the wall to open and close the garage door. The drive does not have its 24V in its modules, it expects it at the input from the outside from what I have read and in this drive I have two terminals + and - with the description that they are for 24V and they are responsible for the open/stop/close impulse.

    Maybe I'll start like that then. Are you able to help somehow?
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  • #4 18051757
    sosarek

    Level 43  
    What exactly is the drive - the central unit?
    The bell push works on a short-circuit principle and does not require any power supply.
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  • #5 18051775
    lpawliko
    Level 6  
    Hormann ProMatic.

    Inputs + and - as in the picture:
    Hormann ProMatic Gate Opener - Adapting 220V to 24V for Wall Bell Button: Current Ampere Advice

    The topic has already been discussed, for example, here:
    https://www.elektroda.pl/rtvforum/topic2172563.html
    https://forum.supla.org/viewtopic.php?t=3674

    That's why I thought my idea was good, but when I wanted to buy this "converter" 220 to 24 in the store, I didn't know the answer to the question "what power? How many amperes?". Now I have found a record in the manual that "the permissible load of the drive by all accessories is max. 100 mA in total". And what I do is defined as an additional element.
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    #6 18051784
    sosarek

    Level 43  
    Well, and in the linked topic you have clearly written where to connect the bell button, so I don't understand why you are messing with some additional power supply?
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  • #7 18051795
    lpawliko
    Level 6  
    Ok, I thought so too, that I connect the bell cable with + and - from the drive and if I short them, it will work, but no, because there is no voltage or anything on these wires, the drive itself does not generate anything. The man from the drive said that an external source of these 24V is needed, hence my combinations.
    However, if you maintain that it is only about a short circuit between + and -, then I will look and see, maybe you need to switch one of the DIPs on the board to make it work.
  • #9 18051803
    lpawliko
    Level 6  
    You know what, you pushed me to check the shorting of those wires again and it worked, I don't know why the gate man didn't want to. Bizarrely, he messed me up terribly and suggested an external clasp.
    Works.

    Sorry to take up your time and thanks a lot for your help.
  • #10 18051809
    sosarek

    Level 43  
    He probably wanted to press some wireless button with an additional receiver, a regular bell does not require any power supply, only shorting the appropriate pins.
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  • #11 18051818
    lpawliko
    Level 6  
    Thanks again.

    Added after 2 [minutes]:

    Problem solved. To give a close/stop/open impulse, it is enough to short-circuit two low-voltage cables connected to the pins with an external bell switch as shown in the figure above.

Topic summary

The discussion revolves around connecting a Hormann ProMatic gate opener to a wall-mounted bell button for remote operation. The user initially sought advice on the necessary amperage for a 24V power supply to operate the gate mechanism. Responses clarified that the bell button operates on a short-circuit principle and does not require an external power source. The user confirmed that shorting the appropriate terminals on the drive successfully activated the gate, resolving the need for an external 24V supply. The conversation highlighted the importance of understanding the drive's requirements and the functionality of the bell button in this context.
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